BTW, just another plot hole I realized.When TE and LR went into the time space world. LR could have easily gone…
LR was shot in the leg in episode 15. I'm sure TE would know how to take advantage of that wound. Also, TE took his flute as soon as they were inside the gate.
They don't travel for eternity. In the end, they found the perfect world and decide to stay there.
Their current human forms will eventually grow old and die. But, as mentioned in episode 15, passing through the obelisks of King Haejong granted the person eternity. Also, in episode 16, LG said, "Just like that, we decided to love the fate that chose us. Just for today and only today. And Forever." Perhaps they'll continue roaming the universe together in forms that can withstand wormholes, black holes, pulsars, quasars, etc. Or perhaps they'll get reincarnated. The possibilities are endless.
I'm currently rewatching episodes 1-15 before the finale comes out, and I still don't understand the scene where…
my 2cents: Lee Gon was in a time in the future when he visited Tae-eul with flowers. When they were in Corea and Tae-eul saw the coat, LG was baffled at her interest in the coat, indicating he did not know about wearing that coat with her because it happened in the future. The flowers he was carrying were most probably the imaginary flowers Tae-eul planted in the inter-dimensional gate. That future time is probably when Tae-eul is gone and he traveled back in time to see her while she was alive. However, in episode 15, the flowers disappeared from her room while Lee Gon was time-traveling which could mean he changed something in the past that caused that visit to not happen or resulted in him not bringing flowers, probably because she said she did not like flowers?
You are comparing a publicly traded company that employs 46,000 people worldwide, with Flix patrol, a website…
How much does a 2-minute threshold to determine whether a show has been viewed change the ranking? It would matter if, in the same period, e.g. in 2020, some shows have a 70-minute threshold while others have 2. But not if all shows you are comparing follow the same rule. Plus we are comparing TV shows whose lengths are more or less the same. And what's the relevance of the threshold in the first place? The accuracy? That's why I repeated my comment comparing the accuracy of FlixPatrol and Nielsen. Nielsen is inherently inaccurate. Plus consider the 10% Nielsen sample size compared to 40% of FlixPatrol. If you can accept Nielsen ratings, why is it so hard to accept FlixPatrol? Just because you are ignoring my rebuttal because you don't like what you are hearing does not mean I did not give one.
that's what i expected this comment section to do. i don't have a problem with critics presenting perceived flaws, but repeatedly taunting it and making others feel like it's a crime to like the drama would drive its fans to rise to its defense
You are comparing a publicly traded company that employs 46,000 people worldwide, with Flix patrol, a website…
And i already answered your rebuttal. In case you missed this, this was in my original post, "Regarding saying TKEM is a global hit, considering that FlixPatrol uses global data that represent at least 40% of the viewing population and the show is in the top 20 of that list, this statement is more accurate than saying a show is a domestic hit based on Nielsen Ratings derived from 10% of the viewing population."
Why is it so hard to accept people are loving this show globally?
You are comparing a publicly traded company that employs 46,000 people worldwide, with Flix patrol, a website…
Hmm, I'm pretty sure there was a phrase "There's speculation..." that prompted me to skip what came after. It seemed to have been deleted.
In any case, it's obvious we are running in circles saying the same things over and over, just in different ways. Giving references to points that indicate you have missed my point is immaterial. My point is simple and does not require loads of references - go through this comment section and you will see so much negativity, noted not only by me; several commenters have noted them as well. In many cases, the same negative comments keep getting pointed out by the same people. Why would it surprise anybody that fans of this drama would try to defend it? Are we just expected to keep still when we see nagging comments that encourage others to drop it or discourage others from giving this drama a chance? So we use metrics to prove it is not as bad as this comment section makes it out to be. Just because some people hate it so much they have to keep reminding others how bad it is daily doesn't mean it is. That is what the defenders are trying to do, just try to give this show a chance to prove itself.
It cuts both ways. In fact, the reason for this post is because my previous comments about this topic have been ignored or misunderstood.
It is not about the commenters winning or losing. Is this what it is to you? It is about this show getting its due chance to prove its worth, not summarily dismissed because of endless taunts about it or outright encouragement to drop it
i have no problem with criticisms. It is the constant taunting and being told the same things over and over - the nagging. We heard you the first time. We don't have to be told everyday.
You are comparing a publicly traded company that employs 46,000 people worldwide, with Flix patrol, a website…
There are several articles online about the inaccuracy of Nielsen ratings. These inaccuracies have been public knowledge since they started. Any student of statistics also knows this. The size of a company does not guarantee how reliable its data are.
The new Top 10 list in Netflix that was rolled out in 2020 is the Top 10 list in viewers' accounts. It's the "Top 10 in the {country} Today" row on your TV when you turn on Netflix. FlixPatrol is a web site that uses The Movie Database for its information.
I won't waste my time talking of speculations. Making assumptions for theories about the plot of a show is one thing. Speculating about how Netflix determines whether a show is viewed or not is another.
While people keep making others think this show is the worst drama ever, I will keep trying to make people know how much others appreciate it, using objective metrics such as its global ranking. I look forward to the time when all comments just discuss the show itself, instead of endless taunts being directed at it.
I saw comments along that line - wondering whether something was wrong with them that they like a drama a lot of people don't, based on the negative comments in this section. Considering this is a comment section for TKEM, I'm sure a lot of people who go to this section are expecting the majority of comments to be positive. So seeing mostly negative comments would give the idea that this is a really bad drama, which it is not. Thus the international figures were mentioned to prove how many people are appreciating it. It was like saying, "don't take my word for it, see how many people are watching it all over the world."
'Apologies to those sick of seeing comments about ratings. Hopefully this will be the last. I was not going to answer personal attacks as I try not to stoop to that level, but since the attacks also affect the show and I see my comments being misunderstood, let me clarify some things.
The FlixPatrol stats were mentioned to make people, who were feeling they're weird for liking a drama being thrashed in its own comment section, know they're not alone in liking this drama. Though it is not well received in SK, it is, in fact, loved all over the world. This is the reason the international figures were brought up, not the domestic ones.
Some people complained about the accuracy of the stats. Nielsen ratings were brought up to make a point. For illustration purposes, let's say the total population being measured by Nielsen Ratings is 1 million and the sample size is 100k. The sample percentage is 10%, what Nielsen Ratings try to use.
Again, for illustration purposes, let's say that out of 190 countries, FlixPatrol includes data in only 76 countries. That makes the sample size 40%. This even assumes that all countries have the same subscription volume, which is not the case. I bet those countries included in the sample are those with high subscription volumes that justify the effort in getting the stats. Thus, if subscription volumes are considered, the sample size might even be higher. But let's take the most conservative figure and go with 40%. This is still much higher than 10%. Thus, in terms of sample size, FlixPatrol is at least, not less accurate than Nielsen Ratings.
People also complained about the reliability of data. FlixPatrol does not store all its historical ranking data. For example, if you look for 2019 ranking data in FlixPatrol, chances are you would not be able to find them. This is why FlixPatrol cannot be referenced in Wikipedia and other sites. FlixPatrol urls that are date-specific are not guaranteed to work all the time. But since our discussion only concerns current periods, we are good, but this is the reason I always include the date when I reference FlixPatrol stats, and I seldom include FlixPatrol urls in my posts.
Regarding FlixPatrol's disclaimer that their ranking points are not associated with the streaming platforms and they do not represent the actual numbers of viewings or sales, this is not an issue. FlixPatrol uses their own algorithm to rank shows. Their ranking points do not represent actual viewing or sales figures. Why anybody would even mistake ranking points for viewing or sales figures boggles the mind, but it seems some people did, thus FlixPatrol needed to put that disclaimer. But since I am concerned about ranking, not absolute viewing and sales figures, this is irrelevant.
Regarding saying TKEM is a global hit, considering that FlixPatrol uses global data that represent at least 40% of the viewing population and the show is in the top 20 of that list, this statement is no less accurate than saying a show is a domestic hit based on Nielsen Ratings derived from 10% of the viewing population.
And regardless of the sample sizes, TKEM has placed in the top 10 daily and monthly lists of most streamed TV shows in Netflix. That proves beyond any doubt that anybody who likes this show is definitely not weird.
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Why is it so hard to accept people are loving this show globally?
In any case, it's obvious we are running in circles saying the same things over and over, just in different ways. Giving references to points that indicate you have missed my point is immaterial. My point is simple and does not require loads of references - go through this comment section and you will see so much negativity, noted not only by me; several commenters have noted them as well. In many cases, the same negative comments keep getting pointed out by the same people. Why would it surprise anybody that fans of this drama would try to defend it? Are we just expected to keep still when we see nagging comments that encourage others to drop it or discourage others from giving this drama a chance? So we use metrics to prove it is not as bad as this comment section makes it out to be. Just because some people hate it so much they have to keep reminding others how bad it is daily doesn't mean it is. That is what the defenders are trying to do, just try to give this show a chance to prove itself.
It is not about the commenters winning or losing. Is this what it is to you? It is about this show getting its due chance to prove its worth, not summarily dismissed because of endless taunts about it or outright encouragement to drop it
The new Top 10 list in Netflix that was rolled out in 2020 is the Top 10 list in viewers' accounts. It's the "Top 10 in the {country} Today" row on your TV when you turn on Netflix. FlixPatrol is a web site that uses The Movie Database for its information.
I won't waste my time talking of speculations. Making assumptions for theories about the plot of a show is one thing. Speculating about how Netflix determines whether a show is viewed or not is another.
While people keep making others think this show is the worst drama ever, I will keep trying to make people know how much others appreciate it, using objective metrics such as its global ranking. I look forward to the time when all comments just discuss the show itself, instead of endless taunts being directed at it.
The FlixPatrol stats were mentioned to make people, who were feeling they're weird for liking a drama being thrashed in its own comment section, know they're not alone in liking this drama. Though it is not well received in SK, it is, in fact, loved all over the world. This is the reason the international figures were brought up, not the domestic ones.
Some people complained about the accuracy of the stats. Nielsen ratings were brought up to make a point. For illustration purposes, let's say the total population being measured by Nielsen Ratings is 1 million and the sample size is 100k. The sample percentage is 10%, what Nielsen Ratings try to use.
Again, for illustration purposes, let's say that out of 190 countries, FlixPatrol includes data in only 76 countries. That makes the sample size 40%. This even assumes that all countries have the same subscription volume, which is not the case. I bet those countries included in the sample are those with high subscription volumes that justify the effort in getting the stats. Thus, if subscription volumes are considered, the sample size might even be higher. But let's take the most conservative figure and go with 40%. This is still much higher than 10%. Thus, in terms of sample size, FlixPatrol is at least, not less accurate than Nielsen Ratings.
People also complained about the reliability of data. FlixPatrol does not store all its historical ranking data. For example, if you look for 2019 ranking data in FlixPatrol, chances are you would not be able to find them. This is why FlixPatrol cannot be referenced in Wikipedia and other sites. FlixPatrol urls that are date-specific are not guaranteed to work all the time. But since our discussion only concerns current periods, we are good, but this is the reason I always include the date when I reference FlixPatrol stats, and I seldom include FlixPatrol urls in my posts.
Regarding FlixPatrol's disclaimer that their ranking points are not associated with the streaming platforms and they do not represent the actual numbers of viewings or sales, this is not an issue. FlixPatrol uses their own algorithm to rank shows. Their ranking points do not represent actual viewing or sales figures. Why anybody would even mistake ranking points for viewing or sales figures boggles the mind, but it seems some people did, thus FlixPatrol needed to put that disclaimer. But since I am concerned about ranking, not absolute viewing and sales figures, this is irrelevant.
Regarding saying TKEM is a global hit, considering that FlixPatrol uses global data that represent at least 40% of the viewing population and the show is in the top 20 of that list, this statement is no less accurate than saying a show is a domestic hit based on Nielsen Ratings derived from 10% of the viewing population.
And regardless of the sample sizes, TKEM has placed in the top 10 daily and monthly lists of most streamed TV shows in Netflix. That proves beyond any doubt that anybody who likes this show is definitely not weird.