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LOL I use to call Ohm, the Prince of BL or "BL Royalty".

You are incorrect. First, this series actually SKEWS towards the older fans, not the younger fans. The thing is that the majority of BL fans are in the 18-24 year old range. I compared this series to KinnPorsche and Cutie Pie. The numbers are very similar, except this series skews towards the 24-34 age bracket and Kinn Porsche I believe skews a bit more towards the <<18 bracket. (BTW I checked Make It Right, an older HS BL that actually has a much more childish plot and it does skew towards the <<18 crowd. INTERESTING!)

I believe the reason this series has been and remains one of the most successful GMMTV series since Bad Buddy is because of its charismatic cast, good OST and good cinematography and directing. I can't say enough positive things about its cast, but especially Fourth Nattwat, who is truly becoming the direct successor of Ohm Pawat. He is charismatic, talented and unlike Ohm, he can sing. :)

I honestly think that these type of series appeal a lot to anyone who grew up in the closet, because this is the exact type of fantasy we crave. I am not in the closet but I grew up in a very conservative society in which coming out in High School would have been frowned upon. The idea of two young male lovers who meet in High School and become romantically involved is such a great escapist fantasy for me and people in my age group... (I am 46!).

I am a pretty serious BL watcher. I admin a small BL fan group, I have a blog, a podcast/youtube channel, etc.

So yeah, don't try to rationalize your dislike for this series by saying it is too childish or immature for you. You just didn't like it. I could tell you that you probably have terrible taste in BL (LOL), but I am not gonna do that. What I will say is that you and I have very different taste. You are not wrong. I am not wrong. But don't try to put down this series as an immature BL, because trust me, it is not. If you want to hear my opinion (I know you probably don't), you can listen to or watch my analysis of the series here, where I talk specifically at why Episode 5 is such a brilliant episode: https://youtu.be/QZatwlgjd5g

(BTW We just started the youtube channel. Our podcast is a little more successful)

I dont understand the negativity about this series.

This is such a great series. Its well done and well thought.

Here is the BL Clinic review of the series (overwhelmingly positive!): https://youtu.be/QZatwlgjd5g

Agree

The director worked on MIR I think :)

yes

Omg lmao

(screams) what? what is wrong with you? why don't you like Ohm?

LOL JK I love both of them but Ohm is definitely my bias ;)

Not since Love Sick, MIR, My Tee or IPYTM.

There are only a few high school BLs. My Only 12% is a recent one, but the structure and storyline are quiet different. Nevertheless, Santa (one of the MCs) is as charismatic as Fourth IMO.

Love Sick and Make It Right are both HS BLs, but the production values are low and may put you off.

The other GMMTV HS BL was My Gear and Your Gown, thought only half of it takes place in HS or so.

Bad Buddy also takes place over the span of several years, including HS. Gemini and Fourth do a cameo in Bad Buddy.

My Tee is an HS BL with very low production values. It does have a similar vibe in the sense of being a bit more queer aware than other BLs. Phuwin and Neo are on it but the MLs are Frank and Drake.

If you are looking for something comparable in quality, I had suggest Bad Buddy, Moonlight Chicken, I told Sunset About You, I Promised You The Moon (WARNING: DEPRESSING) and He's Coming To Me (Warning: YOU WILL CRY).


I probably have other suggestions but those are the first to come to mind.

We can't say anything until it is released. Newyear was in HBL and he didn't have to do anything too crazy.

Heck, P'Andy was involved in MIR which had Ohm do some raunchy stuff and Ohm was 15 (16 in S2 in which he actually almost had a 3Some). I am not saying that was right, but it wouldn't be the first time. Also, have you guys seen Waterboyy the movie?

That's interesting. A friend of mine who watched it said, it didn't suit him.

He was OK in the comedic parts of BB. I think Ohm is a lot better, but maybe Ohm is just my bias :)

Yeah, I suspect so too. What I think is that it depends on what you look for in chemistry. For me, you can have chemistry even if all you do is hand holding and hugging. Like, I think Captain and White had great chemistry in Love Sick.

On the other hand, you can have bad chemistry even when there is kissing and fake love making involved. For me that would be New and Earth in Waterboyy. The chemistry was meh.

So I define chemistry in two ways. From a viewer perspective, it is how believable the couple is. Do I believe these two characters in real life would be together? When they kiss and when they hold hand, do they look like they want to eat each other out?

From the actor and director perspective, it is both how comfortable the actors are with each other and how comfortable the director makes them look. That will depend a lot on many factors that the director has control over. Thus, chemistry is about 50% on the actors and about 50% on the director. Some actors are so good, it doesn't matter anything else, like Ohm. Ohm can have chemistry with a wall. Some directors are so great, they can create chemistry were none was before, like Aof.

Those are some good points.

I need to pay more attention to the rest of the cast. IDK. To me he is maybe a notch above the rest of the cast in terms of overdoing it, but not much more than that. Mike is not too different, maybe not as loud. Fluke is playing this as a comedy, at least for now. The one older lady at work is too.

But I will pay a little more attention to this next time and will let you know what I think!

I want an explanation of what is chemistry, not an example.

Force could crack a nut with that chest of his. LOL

Book is not bad looking himself. I find both men are very attractive.

Can't wait for more bare chested scenes hahaha

IDK Kate. I actually have met people like him. Cher is someone who likes to talk because he doesn't like silence. About the only thing I found wrong with his characterization is that his family dynamics felt off. I don't think the parents he has are the parents I imagine a guy like him would have.

Remember, Cher is a youtuber and content creator. He likes to talk so much he started that AMSR channel. He is a famous gamer. He is used to being in the spotlight.

For me, I find that I can suspend my disbelief. I find Cher cute and adorable. Is he a bit annoying? Yes. But he is also confident and mature. This is also a comedy and I think his characterization is good. I didn't watch Enchante, but it seems to me that Book would be OK in anything comedic.

This is a serious question. Define chemistry. What do you mean when you say they don't have chemistry?

Are the kisses awkward? Do they look uncomfortable together?

I keep seeing ppl comment about the actors chemistry and many times I don't see it. Sometimes they say they have chemistry when I see none, and other times they say they don't have chemistry when I think they are OK.

So I am curious to know what is it about this couple that makes you think they don't have any chemistry...

I dont feed trolls.

This is a character-driven story, which is rare in BL.

I was left with a lot of happy feelings, so I am not sure why you didn't feel good after watching it. The series is really about people who have built walls around them for a variety of reasons and in the end they allow those walls to break down and allow others to enter into their lives. I can't think of anything more uplifting. It is such a rare thing for BL to explore such a universal aspect of the human experience (other than love itself)