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In that case did you skip the interview where Yangzi said Xiaoyao loves Tushan Jing? They didn't hack or edit it maliciously. She said it very clearly.
Its also not from a scripted variety show but an actual proper interview.

Also she also said there is no BE at all.
She said everyone is happy and 'got what they wanted'.
So yeah Xiangliu didn't get a BE, you can stop your whining. Celebrate with wine because man got his wish fulfilled like the warrior he is.

There is a theme of 'cages' in LYF.

After being tortured, suffered in pain and eventually gaining 'freedom', different characters end up choosing different choices in life.

I start with Tushan Jing first, not because the story revolves around him, but he is the most misunderstood as the 'weak' for not seeking revenge. This view is not only thought by audience or readers, but even other characters in the story like Cangxuan.
However, it seems TH actually hoped that more people will realize the truth in 冤冤相报何时了 : two wrongs don't make a right.

After Tushan Jing went back, if he chose revenge, that would become his new cage. With the available resources he has at his disposal and reason on his side, he could get rid of Tushan Hou with a flick of his finger, but he chose not to kill him.
Not many could understand this, and Xiaoyao was one of the rare ones who did. After being in darkness, and I am not just talking about the years of torture but also his glorious years as Dahuang's most eligible bachelor. He realized that all these is pointless in life. What he wanted was difficult to attain, he wanted to make peace with the brother who once loved him. If he had killed him, he would be shackled by guilt because he understood why his brother 'turned evil', due to the actions of his own mother. If Hou was just clearly evil over the 400 years of brotherhood, he would not have this issue. Even though it made his life very difficult and caused alot of grief, Jing was strong enough in character and did not choose revenge no matter how others viewed his 'inaction'.

Cangxuan's cage is invisible but he build it out of guilt, loneliness and pressures he faced being a political 'hostage'. He too had to undergo different kinds of struggles alone as he grew up.
However, he still can't step out of the boundaries of it. He can go higher, but his cage just became more narrow as he went onto higher grounds.
With all the power in the world, Cangxuan could now call the shots, but his actions are actually restricted by many other things. How can he be free?

Xiaoyao and Xiangliu were similar characters.
Both had been literally caged, abused and tortured for decades, and both have killed to become free. As Wen Xiaoliu and Fangfeng Bei, these two were free to do as they pleased but alas that was only fleeting.

However, Xiangliu had gone back to his savior Hong jiang, and he willingly put on new 'shackles' of loyalty. He chose his life purpose to live for Hong jiang. There is no right and wrong in his decision, his life choice was his to make, but the fact is, Xiangliu is no longer free to do as he pleased in this life.

As for Xiaoyao, she is physically free but mentally still trapped being afraid of being abandoned and alone. Her outlook on life remains gloomy and she still cannot bring herself to fully trust or love. But she was willing to try to leave the shackles of uncertainty and doubt behind. Even if it failed the first time, will Xiaoyao be courageous enough to keep trying?

Ultimately, blessed are the ones who can be truly 'free'.
I hope S2 will be able to deliver the characters well.

I just want to be able to scroll down the main page and read something different lol

Oh since i got suggestion to talk more about Jing instead, here's my way for the best of all worlds!

I happened to mention it in a reply in one of the many posts just now, but here I posit again in greater detail:

Xiangliu is Team YaoJing.

My first evidence is from S1. After the breakup, Xiangliu was the one who really knows how much pain Xiaoyao was in since he was aware of how much she was suffering. Cangxuan may listen to her words but he was always thinking that she would get over Jing as long as enough time passed.

The novel says that at Cangxuan's first wedding, Xiaoyao had not seen Jing for over a year. When she saw his white hair, she maintained her smile, but as she thought about how her heart fluttered when he let his hair down ( supposedly in ep20 but sadly wigs have limits and we got no CGI budget), Xiaoyao felt her heart 'being torn by a big hand, so painful that it seemed like it was shattering', but she kept on smiling. But suddenly, her heart beat violently, and she could no longer smile.
Tong hua described this as 'as someone can remain expressionless after being stabbed they cannot control their breathing when they have exerted themselves.'

In the drama, all these cannot be showed effectively since we got no narration nor VO, all we saw was Xiaoyao looking like she was in pain and so instead of just staring sadly across at Jing, they got their little moment.

If the novel was still accurate in this scene, and we know Xiangliu was also present at the wedding, why did he do that? Did he want to let Xiaoyao to have an excuse to be close to Jing again?
If not, why not let her pretend to be fine and move away without any interaction? I can't imagine he just wants to be mean to Xiaoyao and its not like he is Loki, being mischievous and wanting to hurt both of them.

Perhaps when you make it to the S2 part of the novel you may see other stuff.

Honestly in the novel her 37 years of coma lasted for less than 2 short chapters. Novel is actually woefully scant on many things, which the drama filled and the drama also dropped alot of things the novel supplemented.

Ironically Xiangliu is the biggest yaojing fan, wouldn't you say? He was the one who said Xiaoyao could not forget Tushan Jing, her Ye Shiqi.

Honestly in the novel her 37 years of coma lasted for less than 2 short chapters. Novel is actually woefully scant on many things, which the drama filled and the drama also dropped alot of things the novel supplemented.

Ironically Xiangliu is the biggest yaojing fan, wouldn't you say? He was the one who said Xiaoyao could not forget Tushan Jing, her Ye Shiqi.

Honestly in the novel her 37 years of coma lasted for less than 2 short chapters. Novel is actually woefully scant on many things, which the drama filled and the drama also dropped alot of things the novel supplemented.

Ironically Xiangliu is the biggest yaojing fan, wouldn't you say? He was the one who said Xiaoyao could not forget Tushan Jing, her Ye Shiqi.

Honestly in the novel her 37 years of coma lasted for less than 2 short chapters. Novel is actually woefully scant on many things, which the drama filled and the drama also dropped alot of things the novel supplemented.

Ironically Xiangliu is the biggest yaojing fan, wouldn't you say? He was the one who said Xiaoyao could not forget Tushan Jing, her Ye Shiqi.

Have you ever thought that since Tong hua was one of the screenwriters, she removed these scenes so that people will stop misunderstanding physical contact without consent as 'romantic'? I believe they feel that would be problematic so the story has been changed so the character will look more 'gentlemanly' and less liable to be attacked by audiences.

Giving her blood by the mouth is not a kiss, giving air while drowning someone is not a kiss either. Sometimes physical contact is just physical contact. Wrestling someone is also not romantic when one side is desperate not to be left behind, stranded again.

Xiaoyao did tell others things she learns from Jing, like the talk about the different types of love, and how she would take the first step towards Nian for her father and Cangxuan.

I seen the interview and its not a 'hack job edit' as you claimed.
So Yangzi's words are gospel only when it suits you then?

As for things actors say on variety shows, that is scripted for entertainment purposes. She was holding on to 'Jing's hands so tightly during their game too. CP marketing is just a tool.
And if Yangzi chose to be with Xiangliu, what has that got to do with Xiaoyao?

I did not say Xiangliu is a green flag why do I have to provide proof for it?
You really make zero sense in your arguments.

You gave me no answers at all. lol

I really don't think we are getting anywhere with the kind of replies you sending me.
Thanks for trying to engage with me but I won't be replying to your posts for the time being.

I hope so because I was here for just a few days and what I noticed was, most of the other fans tend not to speak at all because of the kind of 'welcome' that is shown. I saw insults traded and people being told to shut up just because of different opinions.

I do hope there can be a more balanced discussion of the main story LYF itself. I also plan to rant about other characters when the problematic part of S2 airs, I hope their fans don't come for me then.

Yes that was my take on it. Xiangliu was shown to be suppressing them with his spirit power in Ep19 by the beach.

Also later when Xiaoyao leaves him for Tushan Jing after her botched wedding, it was described that he sent her to the ground in pain with a searing pain through their connection. So my question was, if the heart cannot be in pain like physically stabbing themselves, where then was Xiangliu's pain from?
To me, he had closed his connection to Xiaoyao to spare her from the pain. It was a bad choice to take on the bugs at first without realizing how the future would change things, but he also continued to live with the pain because they are at war and even though it inconvenienced him ( like when he experiences things he rather not ), he would still rather keep the connection for his advantage.

I have no doubt that Xiangliu has come to love Xiaoyao in his own capacity. Maybe it cannot surpass his loyalty for Hongjiang but I won't say his love is fake.

As for how the bugs work, it was never clearly mentioned.
All the novel described was, the bugs was a means for a couple to live and die together. It was more to prevent a man from betraying the woman with a change of heart. As for how they work, nobody really knew anymore. And because the bugs would become heartbreak bugs, the women who planted it also didn't plant it lightly on just anyone.

But if Xiaoyao's side was functioning fine and she had no backlash, what my understanding was her bugs are sustained by his love, but his is not. Otherwise if the bugs had became heartbreak bugs for both of them, Xiaoyao without much spirit power would be in much more pain than just her heartache over her breakup. And if both are sustained by mutual love, why was Xiangliu in more pain?

Anyway I am not sure how the couple bugs really work so I am just sharing what I am wondering about. Maybe in S2 its clearer but even though I read some of the leaked script, I didn't really see anything more illuminating.

I sincerely appreciate your reply and not just telling me that the name tells it all.

Again, you are the ones who are making your claim based on the name alone. You have no other response except this? If the couple bugs was truly functioning the way it is supposed to be, why is Xiangliu in pain?
You can't even tell me he was not in pain, because we were clearly shown that he was in pain.

What is true love? This is the theme and question that many dramas seek to ask.
True love should be open, the two people should be able to rely on each other at all times. They should love and respect each other, share their thoughts with each other, help each other along in life. I don't think we see that with Xiaoyao and Xiangliu.

As far as I can tell, what Xiaoyao has for Xiangliu is not romantic love. She has not ever been jealous over him, being physically attracted to him, or ever wanted to possess him for herself.
He always goaded her on, playing to her competitive spirit. Xiaoyao was sincere in her actions towards him but she was also clear not to lead him on. For that I am glad the author did not go down that path, because that would have been unfair and cruel for Xiangliu.

By the end of S1, it was quite clear that the two of them are in a comfortable 'friendzone'. I don't think things will change drastically in S2, but somehow you are the stubborn people who keep repeating your unchangeable views without actual evidence, while overlooking what was obviously a big sign that the couple bugs are not happy at all.

What I know is I surely don't agree with your definition of 'true love'. True love needs hard work from both parties.

Some people really seem to think this drama is starring Xiangliu, when Tonghua has said repeatedly that it is about Xiaoyao and Cangxuan, the war orphans that is the next generation of her prequel Once Promised 曾许诺.

Some people really seem to think this drama is starring Xiangliu, when Tonghua has said repeatedly that it is about Xiaoyao and Cangxuan, the war orphans that is the next generation of her prequel Once Promised 曾许诺.

Jing is the 'plot device' which shows that a proper relationship does not depend on a cheat hack like the couples bug. Without it, Jing can still follow Xiaoyao willingly in death, he did not require the bug to kill him along with her.
He also does his best to communicate with her and understand her, and she with him. Xiaoyao has always tried to be truthful with him, except when they were broken up.

What is interesting to me is, Xiangliu had this perfect connection all set up, but for his own reasons and purposes, chose to close off his side to Xiaoyao, since to you he is selfless and not interested to pursue a relationship with her.

"She never felt anything from him" that was the description. So Tong hua was teaching us that for a relationship to flourish, you need to communicate. Otherwise, even if you are linked by heart, you still don't really know each other.

Today I was discussing about Xiaoyao's heart.

You are the ones who made it all about Xiangliu.
Since this main page everyone is talking about him, I thought I could join in too. Or does one need to be a Xiangliu 'fan' before we are allowed to comment about him?

My question exactly is how is it 'undeniable'?
Even Tong hua made sure that no character could actually tell how the couple bugs work in the novel or the drama.
But it appears that Xiangliu fans just happen to know more than the canon information provided.

Can you explain where the excruciating pain Xiangliu is experiencing coming from?
Xiaoyao's heartache is painful but its not as bad as what floored her in the later chapter. So tell me, where is the love?