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I have replied to other fans other than you. You know better what kind of attitude you bring. Don't try to play the victim card with me.

If you truly had a real answer, I don't think you would type so much drivel instead of just handing me the answer to shut me up if you could.

So you just have no answer. That's clearly obvious.

So don't engage with me. Its a free world.
I have interacted with other nicer fans here than you.

Seriously you have already given me too much of your attention. Thanks. But please don't reply my posts if all you have to say are complaints.

If you want quotes I got quotes. If you really have 'evidence' then bring it. Just make sure its actually what I am asking and not regurgitation of what you read on weibo please.

You do realize that you have said so much to me over the past hours and not one reply addressed the couple bug backlash question? You have no answer to that, not because you don't see fit to reply me.

Don't worry, I am just new to MDL.
I will do my best to write more about Jing but I don't think you want to read it.

I am first and foremost, a Lost you forever fan :)
Yaojing is just my preferred ship and I get mad at all characters at different points of time too.

Xiaoliu lying to Xiangliu was evidence that she didn't truly trust him yet, so this only shows to me there is no 'love' at this moment.

And what was she supposed to do? Xiaoliu actually had no intention of ever returning to Haoling. Why would she go around telling others, especially someone she just met for a few years about her true identity?
If she had to explain her mother had given her the manual about how to raise poisonous bugs, won't she worry about Xiangliu taking her hostage to get Xiyan to do his bidding?

My post just pointed out how Xiangliu got into Xiaoyao's heart.
The novel and drama made it such a big deal that it was not easy to get in because of the hard shell around her heart etc, and that was my observation about how he got in.

As you have pointed out, it was also kind of meant to be. LYF is a xianxia story with deities etc but Tonghua needed a way to give her female lead multiple lives without bringing in reincarnation as a storytelling tool, so Xiangliu's multiple lives achieved this.

I think Xiangliu is fond of Wen Xiaoliu and he agreed to take it on at the time, thinking eventually maybe they will become closer and it will all work out. But seeing how he was suffering from the backlash of it later on, I can't say it was a good decision for him personally.

Basically my argument is that something was installed and it was not stated to Xiaoliu in the terms and conditions. Even if we normally don't read everything in the TnCs, I am sure there will be outrage if something was deliberately left out without our knowledge.

In addition to my previous reply, here is another thought.

To reassure her mother that she is going to be fine and be happy with Tushan Jing, do you consider telling her parent that ' This guy is dependable and will never leave me.' vs 'I just love him so much Mother.' Which is going to set Heng's heart more at ease?

As far as I can see, TH also showed there is no absolute thing as 'he will never leave me? She also proved to us that in the event when TSJ did 'leave' her, what Xiaoyao's response was.

Are we supposed to only take what other people say as gospel?
Are we not capable of our own independent thought?

If Yangzi said something, I suppose it must be absolute!
Yangzi also said that Xiangliu was career minded, which I disagreed with. Do you agree with that assessment?
Isn't Xiangliu committed to his foster father's cause but he was not doing it for a 'career' at all?

You cannot address my question about the couple bug and all you do is mock me. You claim they are in love but cannot explain why there is backlash and pain. So if there is backlash, where is that love you claim?

Its true that Xiaoliu wanted to plant the bug in Xiangliu without his consent first, but it was definitely not out of any romantic intention. She was actually so afraid of him and if he will harm her family that she wanted a way to control him.

She had thought it was a normal poisonous bug which she can control him using pain, since her poisons have all failed on him.

Also later on when she asked him to take it on, she even considered that it was because he shouldn't be too affected by the pain since its divided by his nine heads.
In the novel its even described as, she thought since he was a snake demon, he would have an affinity with bugs.

I wonder why she didn't consider asking Tushan Jing to take the bug for her? He did promise to help her with it many times. My guess is she just don't want him to be in pain because of her. Also probably at the time, she already planned to cut ties with him as well. It was too big a favor to ask. She thought Jing was leaving and at least Xiangliu would be with her in Qingshui town.

My big problem is, Xiangliu knows exactly what bug it was, but he chose not to tell her. She might have thought of another way if she knew what kind of bug it was.

You have sent me alot of replies under my post, 5 replies in fact.
All in mocking tone, no answers.
I have yet to see even one line addressing what my original post was talking about.

So Xiangliu didn't cheat his way into Xiaoyao's heart? Did he earn his way in? He didn't get direct unauthorized access by not telling her what kind of bug she is transferring to him?

All is see is diversion.

Again, that was not something I personally said to you? I am new to MDL. So why are you throwing that in my face?
What has that to do with what I am asking here?

Describing my opinion as 'poop' is so friendly, yeah I totally feel all warm and fuzzy on this page. Bet you just want different voices gone so you can populate the page with all your 'hard facts'.

And that was the way Xiaoyao eliminated her choices.

After Xiaoyao made her decision, she loved Jing with all her heart. She used to be passively waiting, but she will fight for him and protect him on her own terms.

Are you saying just because she eliminated the others, then the person who literally won her heart, is in fact, not the one she decides to love?

Fenglong also promised he will never leave her or marry another woman. Did you see Xiaoyao believing him? No, because Fenglong never even tried to get into her heart.

We also saw that she could change herself just to continue her love for Jing, even when he 'left her'. What do you think about that? Is that not love?

Nowhere in that massive chunk of text you wrote replied about my actual question about the couple bugs:

If the couple bugs are doing so great, why was Xiangliu in pain during ep19 when Xiaoyao was looking at Tushan Jing... Was that not clearly a backlash?

Did you even offer me your discussion or reply or just a diversion because you have no answer?

Did you not see my collective reply explaining how I cannot reply individually to all of you? Do you only see what you want to see?

MDL is free and open space, where people should feel safe expressing themselves. I had heard of your intimidation tactics driving away other fans, acting like this was your street or something.

Platonic love is what I give you because you guys are so insistent on 'LOVE' go ask your translators about the leaked script. All you get is FRIENDSHIP.

Again why are my posts misinformation just because my opinions differ from yours?
Is yours the one and only truth?

Again, your response is very strange. If I asked for a response = I want to be attacked with long essays with same information from different yaoliu fans like some weird intimidation tactic?

Do you all operate on this kind of logic?
If that is the case, I should declare all my opinions without a ? and thereby get no response!

There, no question mark there.

I have tried to remain polite but so many xiangliu/yaoliu fans have been attacking me with long essays that all have the same kind of points, and expect me to reply to you one by one? I really can't sorry.
You aren't budging from your opinions but weirdly you expect me to be shaken in mine just because you write me essays.

If the couple bugs are doing so great, why was Xiangliu in pain during ep19 when Xiaoyao was looking at Tushan Jing... Was that not clearly a backlash?

At least think about how the couple bugs is supposed to work instead of repeating the evasive theories, that its 'somehow irrefutable proof' just because it can be planted.

So far it is evidence that Xiangliu loves( not the most, but well enough) Xiaoyao yes, but does it really mean that Xiaoyao loves Xiangliu?

Also don't forget, the drama reminds us plenty of times there is familial love, romantic love, platonic love. Which type of love is it?

Oh yeah please don't write me essays of parroted information that I have read soooo many times from sooo many xiangliu fans... or is it because you have nothing fresh and new to back up your so called 'obvious love'

Also can you point out which part of my post is misinformed?
As misinformed as Xiaoyao who agreed to the installation of the couple bug without full knowledge of terms and conditions which Xiangliu knew about but didn't tell her?

At least at said point of installation, he didn't know about her connection to Cangxuan, so his initial intentions was probably good, but after he knew... you really cannot pretend that he kept it as some big favor to her, especially when we see some of the invasive moments he gets to 'experience'.

All these colored flag talk, is Xiangliu supposed to be a green flag then?
I have not said Jing is perfect. All of Lost you forever's characters, including Xiaoyao have their own flaws... even when we watch xianxia, those deities are as human as the rest of them...
Why is everyone bent on targeting Tushan Jing? Just because he gets the girl and your bias didn't?

Certain people are going to be pissed but I stand by what I say:

Cang xuan was already in Xiaoyao's heart because he is family.

Tushan Jing literally had to almost die to get into Xiaoyao's heart after proving his love.

Xiangliu withheld information and got a cheat hack into her heart and got to know all her feelings without her consent. She didn't even realize that until much later on after he told her not to stay heartbroken over TSJ because it was bothering him.
Meanwhile he got a free GPS tracking on her so he could track Cangxuan *eyerolls*

If Xiaoyao chooses Cangxuan, she would have chosen like her grandmother.
If Xiaoyao chooses Xiangliu, she would have chosen like her mother.
If Xiaoyao chooses Fenglong, she would have chosen like Chenrong Xinyue.

So Xiaoyao chose Tushan Jing, for herself.
*wild applause*