semantichero

Currently reading the novel, read the webtoon AND watched the anime. To say I am waiting with bated breath for this to come out would be a humongous understatement. I LOVE these two! They better not disappoint me with a half assed production. Fingers crossed.

It was the icing on a BL cake that didn't really exist in 2021.

LOVED IT. LOVED IT. LOVED IT. Thank you Japan, this one show sated my thirst in what has been an abysmal stretch in BL world. I bet you I will be re-watching this constantly. It was like a perfect lover, hitting all the right spots. 😉😆 Was that sentence too much for some? Oh well, the comment stays.

Me too. Those deer in headlights, toddlerish, dry lip smacks get old sometimes haha

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!! I was getting tired and burned out on pretty new dramas and was looking for dark/romantic stuff and this list has scratched my itch. I will be busy for a while! Arigatou!

I am SUCH groupie for Yoo Ah In. I think I have pretty much watched everything he has been in. So yay and thank you Netflix!!!!

For me, THIS lived up to all the hype. I had ALL these things I was thinking I was going to write in this comment section during the last few minutes of the final episode and... I mean... WHAT A SHOW. I have watched countless dramas and thousands of movies (no really, thousands) and sometime I feel numb to all of it and just jaded and bored. But this, this just moved my soul. I laughed, I cried, tears rolled down quietly, I giggled. I felt love, I felt grief/loss, I felt pain and finally healing and i was reminded that life isn't meant to be perfect, but lived. Those who find their "tribe" are the luckiest of all.

I absolutely loved it. Hats of to every single actor, actress for they played each and every role to perfection. Seo Yae Ji was phenomenal and deserves ALL the accolades. And a round of applause to everyone involved in making this. Thank you thank you thank you. Bittersweet in that I know it might take me some time to find a drama that moves me this much anytime soon. Fingers crossed.

It wasn't my file. I did a deep search and found it online. It must be gone now if you can't access it. Sorry!!

I love that sentence - the women were ignored, the man's tears were silenced. We keep saying we are striving for equality yet seem to want to bring men down in the search of it. The patriarchy is bad, yes, but most men are just normal people trying to find their purpose in life like we are. Both sides need to listen and understand that our needs are different because men and women are inherently different beings.

Exactly. I keep seeing that word in EVERY single comment section through social media and I am thinking are we just walking around these days expecting people to not make mistakes/behave badly without that word being used? Being horny is NOT toxic. lol Same people saying his behaviour is toxic are the ones jumping to a woman's defense if someone calls her a ho. "Leave her alone! She is just embracing her sexuality etc. "

And I agree the ending was just lazy writing. So abrupt. It stayed true to the theme where one was still unsure if Jae-on had turned a new leaf and could be a one woman man but it also showed that she has decided to wholly accept and be with him despite her doubts.

China is on another level. I watch BL series and the two actors from Addicted were banned from ever being in public together because they starred in that show. I mean like WTAF?! As for the Lucas thing, I'm sorry the last time I checked if you bought a gift for someone then that's not mooching. YOU chose to spend your hard earned money on a man to make him like you more, he doesn't then you go online and badmouth him. Then people wonder why their celebrities don't enter relationships till they are way older. Always doubting the reason and motive of the person you are with cause a month later they are airing all your business on Weibo etc Humans are vultures!

You have a point. But in comparison to Western shows they definitely show some restraint in how "free" people behave especially when it comes to sex. They still show the woman as a giggling, virgin shy girl gasping even from a simple peck on the cheek and sometimes it's beyond irritating. It's like we have ALL seen movies and read books and know how nature/love relationships etc work, stop acting like a newborn lol . It's actually funny cause they are ALWAYS drinking in the shows, men and women alike getting absolutely blasted off their faces even with the bosses, fathers, mothers etc. but in terms of sex everyone is pristine and untouched. I can appreciate that they don't want to hypersexualize everything (I think the West has lost it's mind in that respect lol) but then this transfers to how they treat their celebrities. It is so dumb and unfair.

I totally understand. Take your time. I said A LOT lol And yeah feel free to share. Let me know where the discussion is so I can see what you and others have had to say/thought!

Honestly. It's like they either have NO personal life OR a career. They cannot have both. That is inhuman.

it is because they understand the high moral system their countries have and exploit this to their financial gain. In Western countries this happens as well but all that follows is a few people insult him online etc, he might pay her some money depending on if she takes any legal steps, then continues his career. The effect though on an Asian actor is devastating. He is almost ruined for life with a permanent Scarlet Letter on his forehead. Any apology she might give now or any settlement they reached in private is moot now cause you have forever tainted his name.

Ahhh no I totally understood and enjoyed reading your response. I just didn't have the time to respond cause I had a lot to say lol

I am also of the same mind in the belief that what makes us uncomfortable shouldn't translate to it being bad. I learned most of my best lessons in life in places of pain and discomfort. As for being triggered by the show (I really detest that word because trigger infers knee jerk as opposed to saying its a visceral reaction, but anyway...) it should be that BECAUSE of your past painful experience that one would want to show this side of relationships to your daughter. It is naive to think "teaching her to stay away" is going to be beneficial and it is a bit naive. It's like almost drowning when you were young then telling your daughter to stay away from pools instead of teaching her how to swim.

Instead of cocooning her and hiding the ugly side of love like all those princess movies we grew up watching did like you mentioned, it would be much healthier for her in the long run to see that there are MANY forms of relationships, interpretations of love and there is a wide variety of men she will come across in her life. This idea that a perfect gentleman exists is a fallacy. That doesn't AT ALL mean there aren't good men, there are millions and millions but even good men are flawed. Don't teach her that men who love you will never hurt you.

Teach her that falling for the wrong man does not in any way lessen her value. Teach her that falling in love with the wrong man is possible even for the most discerning, intelligent, well read, level headed, experienced woman. Teach her the self worth to be able to cope should she ever be in such a relationship so she doesn't become a broken woman for the rest of her life. Let her know that even if she falls for such a person she is STILL worth real love from a good man instead of belittling her choice and mistake.

Labeling something as toxic just pushes the issue under the carpet, and ignores the reality and frailty of what it means to be human. Bad boys abound everywhere and just cause mama said "stay away from them" does not ensure the safety of your heart. The heart is a funny thing. Teach her ALL of it, the good, the bad, the ugly and this will give her coping skills. As a mother you are/might not always going to be there and the heart does not always listen to the head.

People are going to react to things depending on how they were raised. Jae-eon had a non-commital parent so of course there were odds he was going to be the same way. He was clear he just wanted a hook up. That was honesty not disrespect. She could have said no and moved on. There are a lot of broken people in the world and we dismiss their behavior with labels instead of understanding the source of their actions. Anyway that was a long long reply lol and I hope I didn't ramble toooo much! Thanks so much for discussing this with me!

Personally this is nobody's business. I can't stand people who after the fact decide to malign a person they were in a relationship with. If he didn't want a child that is his right. Yes, he should have been more careful but sometimes in a relationship both sides get sloppy with birth control. Women will always hold the power when it comes to this because it is our bodies and some will weaponize the issue when they feel abandoned etc There are men who want a child but the girlfriend terminates the pregnancy. Would people sympathize with him and tear her down like they are doing right now if the shoe was on the other foot?

Also WHY air it to the public?!?! How does that affect ANY of us? If she wanted to have the child she could have done so and then take him to court for child support etc. It's so awful airing such intimate dirty laundry. We weren't in the relationship when it was going on and it's no one's business now it is over. If he wasn't famous it would have remained a non story and a fact of life between two random adults.

I do not watch movies based on the personal life of a star. Movie industries would be bankrupt if we did. He made maybe an emotional mistake not a deliberate, cruel one. People judge on their keyboards knowing full well it's cause THEIR dirty deeds are kept in the dark and unseen. To err is human, to forgive, divine. I will continue to watch things he is in, none of this scorched earth approach from me, it seems to be the trend these days.

It's the end of the world as they know it. There *is* no plot. It's all about staying alive/
survival of the fittest.

Episode 8 wrecked me. That is all I came here to say.

This is incredible work you did here AND listing links to watch as well? Aaaaamazing. THANK YOU!