Kate

Well, positive comment about dramas I don't like annoy me. Does that mean people should stop writing positive comments? No. It means I should not read them if I know they annoy me.
Same way, if negative comment affect someone, THEY should stop reading them.

I do like some aspects of the show a lot, but after watching an episode I just feel exhausted lol

Negative comments do not affect me that strongly tbh. They are just a reminder that the show ain't perfect so I should not expect perfection.

I know myself. I easily hype myself up for a show and end up being disappointed. That's why I read negative comments to turn that hype down a bit.

So, thoughts on the first episode: it was not bad, but it was not great - with me dropping shows a lot lately, this is a win.

The best part was for sure showing some of the darker side of k-music industry, even if presented in a slightly messy way. But it is refreshing, since we don't see it often (one of the reason I laugh when people say shows like Produce Idol are cruel, as if they are any different than the daily life of this trainees. At least they gain fans in the shows and don't rot in a basement of their agencies).

Acting from the main cast was good-ish. It's truly hard to tell since we barely know anything about the characters. But nothing stood out in a negative way. I was actually surprised to see Park Yu Ri, since last time I saw him was in Produce Idol lol

There were some directing aspects I found questionable - 3 years time jump being one of them... This show is also for sure on a lower range of budget, it's worth knowing before starting it. The music for it is rather "generic" (tho rarely ever the shows about idols have truly good and memorable songs, so this is not that much of a problem). The award ceremony was a bit painful to watch, since it just looked unrealistic and cheap.

That said, I'm kind of curious about the plot, or rather the one side plot about Eun Jo and the girl that died. My theory: they were dating, she got pregnant, killed herself coz of all the pressure etc., Eun Jo could not handle this so he ran away.

At the same time, there are some aspects that I am careful about, and hope will not come true in next episodes. Like ML being the typical misunderstood cold lead who is not really cold, or a selfish SFL who will do everything to get the guy and for her career. We already have past connection, no way of fixing this cliche lol

Anyway, as long as they keep it up with the more realistic approach of the industry, it might be nice.

Your first sentence is simply not true. There are planty of shows I criticized on first episode, but ended up loving (The Victims' Game being an example of it). And I'm sure I am not the only one. Truth to be told, I have the opposite problem, when I try to find positive things is a show and hype myself up, I more often than not end up not liking later episodes.

Comment section is for both positive and negative opinions of the show. It's easy to see if someone did not like the episode just from the first line. If you cannot handle it, don't read the rest of the comment.

Why someone has to present anything in a positive way at first? As I said, I often read comments before starting the show, and I skip the positive ones, and look for the negative ones as a way to prepare myself for what's to come.

At the end of the day, if someone is so easily influenced that reading one negative comment might make them not watch a show, maybe they should not read comments before starting in the first place. Or at least not read the negative ones.

While I don't agree with everything Yian Ji said, they are not judging the whole show, they are judging the first episode, which they have the right to do, after watching it.
The immature are the ones who get offended over negative comment. Not everything has to be presented in a positive way, especially since there is no perfect show. I, for example, like to read "negative" comments coz they let me prepare for the show and manage my expectations.
You could simple not read the comment in the first place. It's obvious the OP did not like the episode from the first sentence, so if you could not handle them ranting about it, you could have stopped reading there.

Am I the only one who feels they just added way too much stuff to the plot?
It just feels oversaturated.

What I gathered from iqiy statement: don't believe anything written on twitter or weibo, shit ain't real. Like, they literally said all the rumors are not true. So I guess we truly just have to wait for their official statement, that is more than just denying the rumors.

Damn, this is some whole new level of poor management tbh.

"Currently, the program group decided to terminate the program recording and cancel the finals. So far, the program group has not announced any news, and some group news on the Internet and the so-called "official Weibo" are false information.

"Youth with You 3" program group ​​​​"

google translated info from ywy3 official weibo.
So it was just a rumor at the end.

RUMOR says the final episode was recorded and the debut lineup picked. IF this is the truth, I have massive problem with it (not with who is in the final line up, tho I am bugged by one member on it), but rather how it was handled.

We know for a fact that last few days of voting and the voting during the final can change the ranking quite a bit. The votes matter a lot. Fandoms literally have plans on how and when to vote to make it the most probable for their fav to debut. So if they filmed the final and picked the team as the rumor says, what was the criteria? How is this not doing the things behind fans back?

I have no problem with them recording final without audience and not making it live event, but they should give a specific date, open the voting again and give a deadline. Coz these votes can shape the whole final line up.

So yeah. I hope the rumor is just a rumor and not the truth, coz I am truly not a fan of dealing with the situation like that.

From logistic point of view, if they planned to cancel, they already would I think. If there is a high probability of them not being able to finish it and debut the team, they would be wasting money right now trying to fix unfixable problem. I think they have 2 problems they have to deal with now, hence the finale is postponed:
> Tony leaving means one of the ream need to re-organize their whole stage. Redistribution of lines, re-doing the choreo (formation especially) and re-learning new positions (which is harder than learning the song from the beginning, since they already have muscle memory of the past formations etc).
> Coming up with a new voting system for the finale, since the milk thing will not be able to continue - it has to be something easily accessible for viewers but also profiting for the show itself.
There is for sure more going on, but these two seem like a logical explanations why the final episode is not happening.

Well, it did not seem like she complimented him, since later he talked with Nemo and he also said that in the class the said he needs to be worried about being first place since other trainees are catching up and he cried that for the past some time there are no praises going his way from anyone. If he did give him compliment, why would he say that and cry over it?

And I don't get why you are saying Huaiwei is using Lisa or assuming he was not respectful towards her. He is a huge Blackpink fan overall. True, Jennie is his bias, but that does not mean he does not like other members. He fanboyed over Lisa during the show too. Also, it's Lisa teasing Huaiwei about him liking Jennie. When she asked him for the first time who he likes the most, at first he said he likes all the members, but she kept asking so he did say her and Jennie (which obviously means Jennie as fav member). All the Blackpink talk started from that point. And again, it was Lisa who said he is more happy now and brought up the topic. Him saying "can we just not talk about" was not disrespectful, he was embarrassed (he literally tried to hide behind the members) and Lisa was laughing about it too.

I don't have problem with Lisa, I enjoy her interactions with trainees and I appreciate how she wanted to talk to each trainee at least once during the show and learn all the names, but sometimes her comments don't sit well with me when I take into consideration how much stress and pressure the trainees are facing anyway. Like, when one trainee asked her if he made progress with dancing (don't remember who it was), and he obviously did. They all did since the beginning of the show. She could say that even tho there is still a lot to learn, he did improved a lot, and he will keep improving with each practice (a hopeful message). But she said she believes he will do better on stage than during practice. The way it was framed and said clearly meant he is not good now, and he still needs to practice (that's how the trainees took it too, since they laughed about her complimenting him without really giving any good words).

We know they are investigating and that's why the filming stopped but we don't know the exact reason since they did not give it in the statement. With what was going on we can assume it is at least to some extent related to Tony.
We know there were complaints made, and again, we can assume it's probably about Tony, but the reason for the complains was also not officially declared.
At least I did not find one source providing the full info on the matter up till now.

The fact the filming stopped is true, but we don't know the reason behind it. The milk being thrown away and that it was one of the complains from netizens is just a rumor since all "news" are based on the photos that are from last season not this season. There is NO credible proof nor source saying the reason the filming stopped was coz of the throwing away milk.

Sure, but adding more rumors is not exactly helpful, that's why I wrote the comment, since the milk scandal is about last season not this one. There is not one photo of the milks from this season being thrown away.

Apparently the photo that goes around is from the last season not this one. People on twitter kept saying that this happened in last season and has nothing to do with this one, since now fans are donating the milk instead of throwing it away.

https://www.sohu.com/a/464562419_120139308?scm=1004.780752318059708416.0.0.568-1297-676&spm=smpc.news-home.yule-news.2.162012960024902FKpLO

check the bottles: these were what they were promoting in season 2.

Can someone explain to me why is everyone on the internet so angry at iQiyi? I truly can't see how they could have deal with the situation is any different way.

A lot of people blame iQIYI for not protecting Tony, but it's not their job to protect him, especially if it might negatively affect other trainees. His own agency is the one that should do the protecting. His parents should have given better statement than: we know nothing. iQIYI's responsibility is to provide the training space, stages, food, etc. for the show. They are not responsible for PR issues of the trainees (at least up till the moment they debut as a group under them). They are not responsible for dealing with personal matters of trainees.

The anger should be directed at people who created this mess and posted the accusations, not towards iQiyi for trying to deal with the aftermath.

Oh honestly I had a problem with how Lisa handled that end of the class and overall last class final words. She gave compliments to everyone except from Tony (questioning if he is ready to debut and if he has what it's needed to be center) and questioning Huaiwei's stage presence (saying he is charming when speaking, but where the charm goes on stage). This did not sit right with me knowing this is their last class with her and it would be better for her to encourage them with nice words.

But yeah, I think a lot of people forgets how young Tony is because he already had some experience in the industry and programs like that. But he is one of the youngest kids there. I think it truly might be better for his mental health to leave the show, even tho it is unfair.

As for the parents thing and not his fault. I read some posts on twitter (so not the best source of information) that drugs are REALLY serious shit in China. And people who wanted Tony to quit were going by the logic of: if kids of parents who work in anti0drug related jobs must face the danger and even life threatening situations of of their parents job, it would be unfair for Tony to not be affected by his parents "crimes". From how I see it, this is serious enough that it goes beyond his participation in the show, but it can literally ruin any future possibilities on career in China. that's why I hope the parents case will be explain to the point not questions are left unanswered. For Tony's sake.

Tony withdrawing is a tragic thing tbh. Even tho I was not exactly a fan of his (compared to other trainees), it is true that he worked extremely hard and has an amazing talent to be an idol.

At the same time I am thinking what would be better for his mental health: leaving as he did, or staying. Even before the accusations dropped I could see how mentally exhausted and pressured he is. I am honestly not sure he could handle the outcome of staying in the show. It's clear that he would be in the debut line up (even if he dropped in ranking and not end up in center, he would definitely debut). The amount of hate that he would face would be even bigger. Having him in the group would make it harder for the whole team to promote and even get sponsors - overall make money. He would for sure blame himself for it, and even if he did not, he would still feel so much pressure coz of this. I don't know... the whole situation is fucked up. There is literally no way out of it for Tony to not get hurt in the process...