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The whole episodes were overexaggerated for the show and "entertainment" value. Do I think the punishment was too strong? For the fictional aspect, not really. Is it a long period effective? No lol I mean, they did not learn shit from it, but rather now have even more build up anger inside, also fueled by fear.

What annoyed me was the fact close to no adults were punished, when they were as guilty as the teens. The homeroom teacher should be beaten up and get his leg broken, at least. The parents of the bullies should get their fair share of shit. And the principal. Coz with the way they showed it, the adults were not guilty and made it seem like they didn't know how excessive it all was. Which is such a joke I cannot.

I actually strongly dislike how they handled the bullying topic. First of all, they used the most excessive way possible to make the bullies truly seem evil. And sure, I could deal with it. But then they added other aspects to it: having shady business with some gangster, illegal drinking and smoking, trying to get him fired. They truly tried to make the teens look as if they have no redeeming qualities and are evil, as a way to excuse the punishment inflicted. As if bullying was not enough.

But what annoyed the the most were Go Eun's remarks. First her questioning the validity of the case, when it does not differ in severity from the last one. She literally just heard how the boy was abused and even push on the street and got his leg hurt, and she was like: do we have to go after teenagers? Excuse me, but how is their behavior different from the criminals from the first two episodes?

Then she was "surprised" how they don't feel guilty partying with a stolen money. Girl, you know they are almost daily beating and physically assaulting their classmates - partying with stolen money is a minor thing compared. You are focusing on some weird shit here.

and then she went with "that's beyond just being immature teenagers" when she saw them giving money to the gangster. As if everything she knew before was a "immature teenagers behavior". Bish, beating up your classmates and assaulting them and both physically and psychologically torturing them is not being an immature teenager either.

Yeah, I am quite honestly not a fan of episode 3 and 4.
Two minor things that made me laugh: first of all no teenage boy would be using Internet Explorer hahahaha + he has some supernatural healing skills, coz after that motorcycle accident his bones would be crushed. he took that plaster off fairly quickly.

Honestly speaking Lelush not getting eliminated each round killed my joy of watching the show. Especially with the newest episode, how they showed him pass right after Hanjiang got eliminated.

People who vote for Lelush as a way to help him gain recognition for his design stuff are delusional and need some reality check. He is a grown up, not a child. Who the heck do these people think they are to ignore him CONSTANTLY asking not to vote for him and let him leave. He has way too much trust in his founders. If they respected his wishes, he would be out on the 2nd evaluation. I'm just praying this poor dude will not be stuck in a 2 years contract if he debuts, coz that will legit ruin his mental state.

Even if this is not true. Even if he was not THAT angry and he did not cry, people should still freaking respect his choice and not vote for him.

Honestly, if I was him I would be depressed and feel like shit. I would feel like I'm stealing someone's spot and making it harder for others to achieve their dreams. Even tho this is not his fault, it's hard not to feel angry and guilty in a situation like that. This must be truly emotionally exhausting.

People say that these shows are heartless, but then themselves be acting like that and keeping a dude in for a joke, even tho it means one less person can fight to achieve their dreams.

DID does not work like that. You cannot switch and control when your personalities come out. It all must have been deliberate act he had, and the fact I don't know why and when exactly he started it annoys me a bit lol Sure I can make my own theories about it, but I want a canon information.

I never thought Han Ki Hwan saw himself as this righteous person but rather someone with huge ambition who would do anything to achieve it. It was not on the side of: I am doing bad things (mistakes) but I am bringing more good. I saw it as: I have this almost perfect life I wanted, I'm gonna silence anyone and everyone who might want to try to ruin it. He was not nearly as interesting as it may seem. They never shown him doing anything righteous nor good, trying to do a good job as a high ranked police officer, for me to think it was all him seeing himself as a good for the good stuff, compared to bad because of his one mistake in the past. But that's my take on it.

From all the characters, the least "evil" and with depth was Do Hae Won, since they nicely played the "is she doing it for her son, or is she doing it for herself" act. Up till the last confession scene, it was not that obvious.

I'm not saying in this drama, but rather all dramas.
But here the characters that broke the law and broke moral principles for their own gain were at the end the culprits, and the ones that were acting morally gray for the justice/good of others were at the end not involved in the crime (or at the level that could be ignored).

For me, having Jung Je actually be the killer would be far more interesting and out of the box. But they went with the safest possible scenerio on who was the killer.

For me, it was clearly the other way around from the start (even without the flashbacks showing him acting "normal" in the past). He used the weak persona to get away with his crimes, but this scenerio is quite unrealistic. It would work maybe in a big city, where everyone is more or less anonymous and the close bonds among people living in the same area are rare. But here... everyone knew each other well enough to be able to notice something.

And while DID with a smart person having personality with developmental problems could happen, it's rather improbable the other way around. If the brain is not developed enough, it's impossible to create a persona that is developmentally further than the brain itself.

The daughter did say that he should drop the act etc. She definitely knew. I would love to know what's up with his character. Keeping an act like that is amazingly hard and exhausting. With him interacting with many people all the time, with good half of them being police officers... I just can't buy into the idea no one noticed for years. And when did he start? How it happened? There are many questions left about his character and his background...

yeah the hearing was never properly addressed, but honestly it did not bother me that much. It's not the weirdest thing I have seen in a crime show. Some were easy to explain (like him standing close to a window etc), but some truly would requite supernatural hearing hahaha

Two plot points that made me lower the rating from 10 to 9.5 were:

> The explanation for the accident that got Dong Shik’s sister dead. It was such a safe way to conclude the story: the good guys are good, the bad guys are bad - no novelty there. My excitement for the show dropped quite a bit after we got that answer.

> Jin Mook’s character. First of all, I have found him pretending to be developmentally challenged for years, quite ridiculous. The fact no one picked up on the act for so long (except for the daughter) was simply unrealistic. Not to mention… we didn’t really get an answer when he started it and why. He was a big part of the plot, so the fact his character was never truly explained disappoints me a bit.

Going to vote and seeing I only have 4 votes... well, my brain started to panic if I should give 2 votes each for my top 2, 1 vote for my top 4 each or maybe give votes to the lower ranked trainees I like lol

At the end I gave 2 votes to my no1, and one vote each for my 2nd and 3rd fav... but damn. Cutting votes from 18 to 4 is savage.

I will tell you:
everything, you like everything
So do I.

media poisoning my mind or it's the 5 years of studying clinical and neuropsychology in university and knowing stuff about children development ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
As I said, even without romantic undertones, this friendship and Gene's emotional investment in this friendship makes little sense.

They just failed in directing this for me. They should have shown that the strong affection was one sided, and while Gene also liked the neighbor's kid, it was not as deep for him. Coz realistically speaking, it shouldn't have. These two were in 2 different developmental stages. When I was Gene's age, someone would have to force me to hang out with a kid. And I would not see it as hanging out, but rather as taking care of them. And that's how it usually goes, so it is unusual for a teenager to prefer spending time with a child, rather than teenagers his age.

The biggest mistake they made was with the ending narration. It was in the context of them having romantic relationship now, by reminding viewers about the "affection" they had as teen and child. It was out of place and made no sense. If Gene had no romantic feelings towards Sib in the past, there would be no "relitting" affections, coz the affection they have now is of a completely different type and quality. They are not relitting anything, they starting something new that never took place in the past.

Was there any romantic feelings from Gene when he was a teen? Probably (hopefully) not. Writer and director did tragic job showing it, making it all vague with weird narration and over the top reaction from Gene.

The whole episode I was like: what exactly is going on? What are they trying to tell me?
When Gene said "you were too young to have this type of feelings" I was like: yes. You are correct. Finally. This seems like he makes a clear cut about the fact there was nothing romantic going on (like first love type if stuff). But then the narration with "relit the affection" at the end just flipped it completely yet again. I don't know how I feel about it and I have honestly no idea what this show even is anymore. First episode ad this episode have literally NOTHING in common.

The whole episode I was like: what exactly is going on? What are they trying to tell me?
When Gene said "you were too young to have this type of feelings" I was like: yes. You are correct. Finally. This seems like he makes a clear cut about the fact there was nothing romantic going on (like first love type if stuff). But then the narration with "relit the affection" at the end just flipped it completely yet again. I don't know how I feel about it and I have honestly no idea what this show even is anymore. First episode ad this episode have literally NOTHING in common.

It's weird for a 8 years old and 13 to have sleep overs. That is quite an age gap for children. For adults it's nothing, for kids these are two completely different developmental stages tho. When there is a bigger friends group with kids from different age ranges, like from 8 to 14, sure, it's a norm, but not two kids with such a gap alone. And the way they presented it all was just too vague and weird.

As I said, they should have been crystal clear about the feelings that were there when they were kids. They were not. The narration by the end of the episode makes it so much worse too. I can't help but think it's weird.

if they made the age gap less visible with actors but not on paper, it would still be weird, but the casting would also be shit hahaha
I don't know. They should have made them max 2 years apart from each other and got them to be friends when they are both early teens. This was just too vague on what is going on and what are the reasons and motivations for them to even hang out, and from Gene's side having such an emotional attachment to the kid.

This is not helping. They have romantic affection towards each other now, so the "relitting the affection" just sounds wrong. They are not back to being friends, they are lovers now.

Like, I don't know. The whole narration (taking into consideration where they are now) seemed more like he lost his first love in the past and now he is back, not a child friend, whom he took care of.

They should have been CRYSTAL CLEAR about the fact Gene had no romantic feelings towards Sib, when they were younger. Instead they have weird statements and flashbacks that are vague about what was going on and what was his stand on the "relationship" they had.