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Jeonju Lee Royal Family Association spoke in favor of cancellation so it says a lot about the level of outrage

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I mean the production team has been facing criticism for some time now. I don't understand why they didn't give a proper statement yet...

Honestly, I read about it some, and I think they have more valid reasons to be pissed about Snowdrop than Joseon Exorcist. At the end of the day this was fantasy and it could be blamed on them just not being careful enough about some stuff, but Snowdrop is based on real events that did not even happen long time ago and the victims of these events are still alive (so do the bad guys). And to be fair, Koreans already criticized Snowdrop the moment it was picked put to be produce after the production team shared the parts and bits of what it will be about. So Snowdrop had fair share of criticism even before Joseon Exorcist.

" respectful manner " is the key here, but I don't see many people truly talk about it in a mature and respectful way. Calling Koreans dumb and overreacting is not going to do much good in this situation tbh. It would most likely just make them hate the show and people involve in it more.

Is your life going to be affected by taking the risk and reshooting the show?
No.
Are you putting the money for them to reshoot the show?
No.

It's not our place to tell the production team if and how much they should risk their careers to maybe get back the approval and finish the show. Not to mention they literally have no money to finish shooting not to mention reshooting and reediting. + the can't shoot in the theme park so they don't even have a place to reshoot. Tell me, how exactly you want them to deal with all that?

Realistically speaking, they won't see these comments tho lol
Also, don't they plan to add some official guidelines concerning historical shows and how much creative freedom can be done when dealing with either real historical figures or historical events?

I don't know, the whole situation is a mess and the real life tension between China and Korea is a serious deal, so I don't think the problems with filming other shows will go away soon and it will come back here and there with new titles too.

It's not viewers place to demand from the production team and actors to be the brave ones, risk their whole career and continue filming against the Korean public opinion, just coz international fans want to see the full show.

Guys, asking for this show to be on netflix is literally asking all people involved in the production to just quit their career after.

How many new project you think these actors will have if they decide to ignore all the outrage (whenever it is or it is not valid) and continue filming the show?

I don't know, one of my reviews starts with:

pew pew pew ratatatata
as a wise woman named Jo once said.

I'm Polish, you don't need to explain to be how Nazi Germany is a sensitive topic.

It's just not the same comparison. In Joseon Exorcist they did not put historical figures against fictional alternative story. They wrote well respected historical figures are either villains of the story or good for nothing characters that are disrespected by everyone and they have no problems with people walking over them. It's not the same. That's why I asked about how was Hitler presented in the story. Coz only if he was presented in a good light, the comparisons would be valid.

For people saying the negative response is too much coz it's fantasy show so the historical accuracy should not be expected: think about that excuse the writers gave for using Chinese props.

Viewers: Why you promoting Chinese culture in the show?
Joseon Exorcist: Historical accuracy.
Viewers: Why you misrepresent historical figures and portraying them in extremely negative light?
Joseon Exorcist: It's just a fantasy show.

Like, you can't say you used Chinese props coz historical accuracy, but then flip it around for the historical figures. Every new response they gave was just digging their own grave. The PR team messed up bad.

I do feel bad for the actors and stuff, but I also see the points Koreans made about the show.

Does the novel presents Hitler as a good person, all loving and that he was right in what he did?
Basically is the Hitler presented as a good hero there?
Coz only then it would be accurate comparison.

they cancelled it coz of sponsors leaving. Which they have the right to do if they think the show might negatively affect their business.

Their whole response to first allegations was bullshit that made people more angry. They claimed using Chinese props was done for historical accuracy (which turns out it was not, coz apparently there were barbarians between Joseon and Ming's dynasty in that time period, so there was little to no cultural exchange in the border) but then they completely misrepresent respected historical figures "coz it's just fantasy"... so is the historical accuracy important or not?

Even if the petition was not sent, the show would still most likely be cancelled. People would still voice their negative feelings about the controversial topics surrounding the show (which they have the right to do), and the sponsors would most likely still leave to not face the same negative backlash and bad association with their image.

The way the dealt with the situation made viewers more angry coz they gave bullshit excuses that had nothing to do with the reality.

she was so toxic and manipulative but at the end she went full disney and be like: go be happy with your lover boi.
what? how? why? when?

A lot of people say that the negativity from Koreans about this drama is ridiculous, and I was seeing it as overreaction too, but now that I think about it, if someone from Poland produced a fictional movie including 2 prominent and well respected historical figures, while showing one as a madman who killed hundreds of innocent people and is overall selfish, cowardly asshole, and then the other as a pushover who acted as a servant to insignificant people (coz that what the priest and translator were: insignificant for Korean culture) I would be pissed too. While I don't think petitions for cancelation are good, since it is a form of censorship, being vocal about the disappointment about the show is completely fine. Realistically speaking, whenever the petition would happen or not, the result would be the same if people would just vocalize their complains online.

Also, a lot of people do not want this drama to get cancelled, but realistically speaking this might be the best way to "save money". They will not get back the sponsors they already lost (coz it would look bad for the companies), the viewership will probably go low af, Did they already finish filming? Do they have money to finish filming? Do they have money for all the post production editing of the "controversial" parts? It might be putting more money into a sinking ship for them...

That's an interesting take and I'm sure it would describe at least some experiences, but fir sure not all. I myself had way higher expectations before watching TMS compared to this. Why? Because TMS comes from the same director as WYEL. So I had hopes and I expected some good stuff, since I knew the director is capable of delivering.

This one I went in completely blank. No expectations. I saw all the new K-BLs and some were better some were worse, so I had no reason to expect perfection from this. It just simply did not work for me. They picked too complex of dynamics to showcase in such a short screen time. I was actually way nicer framing my opinion for this show than for example Mr. Heart (which I saw before TMS).

So what I want to say: give people some credit :) I assume a lot of people are mature enough not to dislike or think negatively about the show just coz they assume it will be worse than their fav. Yes, there are people like that, but I would say it's a minority.

That said, I hope you will have fun watching and you'll enjoy the show a lot :)

I knew Tony from Produce x 101. I wasn't the biggest fan of his back then, but it was because of his lack of training so he just did not caught my attention. Here, I actually enjoyed him at the beginning, but as I watched more episode I became a bit exhausted by his unreasonable drive. He keeps comparing himself to who he was 2 years ago during Produce, but it's just dumb. He had close to no training back then, but now he developed a lot of skills that are required for debut. He is not the same person. Rather than his skills, he needs to put some work in his mentality. When I watch his performances, he just does not seem at ease and natural: everything seems rehearsed, calculated and robotic. He needs to enjoy the stage more...

As for the center comment, there is a information going around that it was actually Tony speaking first, then Liang Sen and after that staff asked Yizhou to comment on what Tony said. But tbh, whenever Yizhou commented right away or not changes nothing, coz just the fact Tony said that was enough for me to have bad aftertaste... It was just lack of consideration on his side. It would be a whole different story if Yizhou was in top9.

Well... what makes me feel better is the fact the voting closed before the theme songs eps were out and Yizhou truly shines during these eps. So hopefully he gained a lot of new fans for the 2nd round of voting.

I am not sure I can love him more hahaha I sold my soul to this boi. I watched his fan cam of sunshine rainbow white horse so many times I literally know the choreo myself hahaha
I've been spamming my friends with all the reasons I love and adore him, I'm sure everyone is just tired with me hahaha