Kate

For people saying the negative response is too much coz it's fantasy show so the historical accuracy should not be expected: think about that excuse the writers gave for using Chinese props.

Viewers: Why you promoting Chinese culture in the show?
Joseon Exorcist: Historical accuracy.
Viewers: Why you misrepresent historical figures and portraying them in extremely negative light?
Joseon Exorcist: It's just a fantasy show.

Like, you can't say you used Chinese props coz historical accuracy, but then flip it around for the historical figures. Every new response they gave was just digging their own grave. The PR team messed up bad.

I do feel bad for the actors and stuff, but I also see the points Koreans made about the show.

Does the novel presents Hitler as a good person, all loving and that he was right in what he did?
Basically is the Hitler presented as a good hero there?
Coz only then it would be accurate comparison.

they cancelled it coz of sponsors leaving. Which they have the right to do if they think the show might negatively affect their business.

Their whole response to first allegations was bullshit that made people more angry. They claimed using Chinese props was done for historical accuracy (which turns out it was not, coz apparently there were barbarians between Joseon and Ming's dynasty in that time period, so there was little to no cultural exchange in the border) but then they completely misrepresent respected historical figures "coz it's just fantasy"... so is the historical accuracy important or not?

Even if the petition was not sent, the show would still most likely be cancelled. People would still voice their negative feelings about the controversial topics surrounding the show (which they have the right to do), and the sponsors would most likely still leave to not face the same negative backlash and bad association with their image.

The way the dealt with the situation made viewers more angry coz they gave bullshit excuses that had nothing to do with the reality.

she was so toxic and manipulative but at the end she went full disney and be like: go be happy with your lover boi.
what? how? why? when?

A lot of people say that the negativity from Koreans about this drama is ridiculous, and I was seeing it as overreaction too, but now that I think about it, if someone from Poland produced a fictional movie including 2 prominent and well respected historical figures, while showing one as a madman who killed hundreds of innocent people and is overall selfish, cowardly asshole, and then the other as a pushover who acted as a servant to insignificant people (coz that what the priest and translator were: insignificant for Korean culture) I would be pissed too. While I don't think petitions for cancelation are good, since it is a form of censorship, being vocal about the disappointment about the show is completely fine. Realistically speaking, whenever the petition would happen or not, the result would be the same if people would just vocalize their complains online.

Also, a lot of people do not want this drama to get cancelled, but realistically speaking this might be the best way to "save money". They will not get back the sponsors they already lost (coz it would look bad for the companies), the viewership will probably go low af, Did they already finish filming? Do they have money to finish filming? Do they have money for all the post production editing of the "controversial" parts? It might be putting more money into a sinking ship for them...

That's an interesting take and I'm sure it would describe at least some experiences, but fir sure not all. I myself had way higher expectations before watching TMS compared to this. Why? Because TMS comes from the same director as WYEL. So I had hopes and I expected some good stuff, since I knew the director is capable of delivering.

This one I went in completely blank. No expectations. I saw all the new K-BLs and some were better some were worse, so I had no reason to expect perfection from this. It just simply did not work for me. They picked too complex of dynamics to showcase in such a short screen time. I was actually way nicer framing my opinion for this show than for example Mr. Heart (which I saw before TMS).

So what I want to say: give people some credit :) I assume a lot of people are mature enough not to dislike or think negatively about the show just coz they assume it will be worse than their fav. Yes, there are people like that, but I would say it's a minority.

That said, I hope you will have fun watching and you'll enjoy the show a lot :)

I knew Tony from Produce x 101. I wasn't the biggest fan of his back then, but it was because of his lack of training so he just did not caught my attention. Here, I actually enjoyed him at the beginning, but as I watched more episode I became a bit exhausted by his unreasonable drive. He keeps comparing himself to who he was 2 years ago during Produce, but it's just dumb. He had close to no training back then, but now he developed a lot of skills that are required for debut. He is not the same person. Rather than his skills, he needs to put some work in his mentality. When I watch his performances, he just does not seem at ease and natural: everything seems rehearsed, calculated and robotic. He needs to enjoy the stage more...

As for the center comment, there is a information going around that it was actually Tony speaking first, then Liang Sen and after that staff asked Yizhou to comment on what Tony said. But tbh, whenever Yizhou commented right away or not changes nothing, coz just the fact Tony said that was enough for me to have bad aftertaste... It was just lack of consideration on his side. It would be a whole different story if Yizhou was in top9.

Well... what makes me feel better is the fact the voting closed before the theme songs eps were out and Yizhou truly shines during these eps. So hopefully he gained a lot of new fans for the 2nd round of voting.

I am not sure I can love him more hahaha I sold my soul to this boi. I watched his fan cam of sunshine rainbow white horse so many times I literally know the choreo myself hahaha
I've been spamming my friends with all the reasons I love and adore him, I'm sure everyone is just tired with me hahaha

Thoughts after ranking. Some made me quite annoyed tbh lol Also, Tony's fans don't kill me, I can't force myself to like him.

First of all, I get why Tony is so popular. He is literally like a manufactured idol made to be perfect: he checks all the boxes needed to debut. But damn he is so boring for me. I'm just tired with him always being depressed and annoyed and sad when he gets 2nd and not 1st place. At times watching him on screen is just emotionally exhausting. It's one thing to strive to get the 1st place but it's other to be devastated and never satisfied when getting anything other than 1st. Also... him saying that about final center etc... damn chill dude. He was literally rubbing salt into wounds with this shit. It was already frustrating and sad for Luo Yizhou to not get in top9, but he just had to say that...

Another thing, what I joke Luo Yizhou didn't get into top 9. For me, he is born to be center and just MUST debut. He is amazingly talented, hard working and he also has a nice personality that just makes others happy. There is this refreshing uniqueness to him.

3rd, I love Jojo, I do... but damn he does not deserve to be in top9 just yet. And Jerome getting in was also questionable...

I was hella confused why Huaiwei was so scared of getting 6th ranking (like damn it's good and high) but then they explained he was 6th twice in season 1 and at the end did not debut, so I get it now. I would be terrified of that ranking too. He is also my ultimate bias, and I will for sure be watching season 1 just for him. I love him with all my heart.

I feel extremely bad for Liang Sen about his hair. He always presented it as just his choice and as if it was not a big deal... but now we know the truth. I feel bad for him and when I think about all the trainees always joking about his bald head and wanting to touch it etc... He was really strong to take it all in. That said, I honestly like him with bald head, and he is still extremely good looking.

Overall... I don't know. These rankings were for sure far less obvious than the ones in Produce Camp. But I'm not sure how I like it. Like... some top picks were truly questionable...

Also, can they get new make up artist? Damn Tony's face was 2 shades lighter than his neck, he looked sick.

Agreed to all and I would add even more:

I was so happy Shu Yi called out Shi De for his bullshit, but I'm also pissed the reaction was so mild. Especially since up till that moment Shu Yi was shown to be extremely emotional, so his collected and mature reaction now makes little sense. every second of Shu Yi's existence in season 1 and season 2 episodes showed us someone extremely impulsive. But now he is not? Because? That some behind the scene character development going in, or the writer just does not care to write cohesive characters.

The dynamics between Shu Yi's dad and Shi De after they left the house and the comedic vibe to the awkward standing with backs to each other scene was just literally slap in the face. Coz the first episodes showed the plot to be serious, melodramatic, emotional ride, the boys were literally suffering for 5 years, but the writer and director are turning it into a joke...

The writing is just bad. And with that I'm dropping on episode 3.

1. To my star
2. Where your eyes linger
3. Long time no see
4. Color Rush
5. Wish You
6. Mr. Heart
7. You make me dance.

Nubsus just gives sus vibes. It's hard to explain lol

his make up was pretty, but it was also really strong hahaha

I do not agree with any actors drinking on set. This is page dedicated to we best love season 2, so i commented on what happened on set of this show. If i wanted to talk about western stars i would not do it on website dedicated to asian cinema.

And i never called anyone dumb. I said the decision they made was dumb. These are two completely different statements.

AND yet again i am saying this, i clearly stated that the director should be blamed the most in this situation rather than Sam. Yet people who disagree with me keep saying i am too harsh on Sam lol

it was posted in comment section somewhere below (that's how I found it and watched it) but there are so many new comments now, I have trouble finding it. You can try scrolling down tho...

I have no problem with, for example, actor sipping actual wine or whisky or beer when they act the scene of them drinking (tho i see not reason to use real alcohol when you can use drinks imitating them without any %). I have problem with actor drinking 3 glasses of whisky BEFORE the scene take place to get into character. One can call it method acting, I call it irresponsible and unprofessional behavior.

Sam said he drank a little bit of alcohol, and then director jump in to "explain and clear" how much he exactly drank. He was REALLY precise about the amount. Don't know if you saw that part of the interview. So unless you want to call the director and Sam liars, he did drink and he did drink 3 glasses of whisky. If they exaggerated the amount, it's on the director not on me. I have no reason to suspect what they said was a lie.

I am judging their behavior, that's how stating opinions work. And if he was not drunk after drinking 3 glasses of whisky and then some, then he has some amazingly strong tolerance for alcohol (but then what was the point of even drinking in the first place if it doesn't affect him at all?). The director strongly emphasized in the interview that Sam drank a lot.

His job as an actor is to ACT as if he is drunk. Not be drunk. Director's job is to direct the scene and actor the way it will look real, and NOT be real. Acting coach job is to guide the actor on how to make the scene LOOK real, and not BE real.

For me this was unprofessional and it's based on MY standards of what I see as professional or not. And as I said in my comment, I think more blame should be put on the director and not Sam himself, since at the end of the day it was director's call to either allow it or not.

Funny how I feel way more people being aggressive in speech towards people criticizing the whole drinking on set, rather then the people who are actually doing the criticizing. There are literally more people talking about the criticism happening that the comments actually criticizing the behavior lol

People have the right to criticize behavior they thought to be irresponsible and unprofessional. That said, I do believe more focus should be put on director and acting coach and not Sam himself. Coz at the end of the day, it was the director who had the final say if Sam should or should not drink for that scene, and FOR ME, he should have said no.

At the end of the day, for me and many people, the fact Sam drank undermines his acting skills, coz it's sending the message: he can't ace the scene sober, so he needed external support (aka alcohol). Not to mention saying publicly he drank before the scene was a dumb decision. I literally could not focus on what was going on on screen coz I kept thinking: so is he real drunk or not? How much of it is his acting and how much of it is just him being drunk? It just took me out of scene completely.

And that's my PERSONAL opinion about it. I will finish the show for the cast, but I will for sure avoid all the other past and future productions of Ray Jiang, since I don't like the idea of drinking on set "to get into character" and the fact he was encouraging it so bad.

"Tian passed out before the race and was rushed to the hospital" how do you know? It was not shown in the show. Was it like that in the novel? If yes, well... they did poor job directing that plot line then. Coz with how they are showing the scenes so far, him passing out right before the race would be so cheap...