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I liked it kid of up till the baseball scene. This was such a bullshit. If you hit someone with baseball like that you would break some bones.

I think a lot of viewers got 'lazy' (tho it's not their fault, they just got use to everything being easy to read) because of how other dramas present all the necessary information from the beginning leaving little or even nothing for the viewer to theorize about themselves. The moment everything isn't cleared out and showed in our faces we get lost and confused. Truth to be told this drama is not a mess. They gave us enough information to form some good theories about who is who, what's their goal and motivation. I don't know if it's just me, but discussing different theories about the plot of dramas is one of the more interesting parts of the whole experience. (one of the reason why I liked W two Worlds so much, even tho the drama was not excellent or anything, but talking with people about their thoughts and ideas was amazing).

it's different than Signal too. I feel it has way more dark vibe (both humor and plot wise). It has really distinguish character of it's own but I'd say it's awesome. Give it a try with those 2 eps.

I must say this is probably the best currently airing drama. I love how uncensored it is. People say it's disgusting and gross but I just find those scenes so funny, coz they make sense in the situation they are in. The acting is awesome. And the thing that makes it even better is the fact it's shoot visually in a movie style, rather than dramas. I wan't so excited for a drama for quite a long time.

Yeah but manipulated how? For what reason? (the only thing I can think of is like a big insurance scam from more than one person on the plane) Even if it was not suicide on his side, he still took the pills, and it's enough to make him guilty. If anything they will be able to convict someone else additionally if it wasn't one man plan. But the pilot is still guilty and nothing will change it. It's impossible to make him look innocent in this scenario. and since they are painting Kim Min Joon into this HELLA smart dude, unless he wants to fabricate the proof that his brother was not the one flying, and it was all the other pilot doing, IF his plan is to make his brother innocent: he already failed.

I'm really curious what is Kim Min Joon goal here. I just don't understand the motivation behind his actions and what he wants to get out of it. Why is he doing all the shit? For now he is the character I 'love to hate'.

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I don't even mind love triangles if they are well build and make sense. But here: this one just doesn't. They dropped this on us only in last ep. And it makes even less sense since we already have one love triangle happening.

Ghost, Cruel City, I Remember You, A Beautiful Mind, Voice, Me too, Flower!, Mrs. Cop, Pied Piper, Signal, You're All Surrounded, Secret Forest, Two Weeks, Who Are You, The Guardians, Falsify (main is prosecutor BUT she acts way more like a detective in this one haha), Whisper.. just a few from the top of my head. Obviously there are more. There are many dramas that fit your criteria and it's not like it's hard to find them. Majority of crime related dramas I saw had female police officers, detectives, investigators or prosecutors in them. That's why I'm surprised when I see post like yours. Same goes with 'we need more diverse female characters' like they don't exist already? They do. So many different awesome female characters.

I am so pissed. They did SO WELL avoiding any romance between Eun Jae and Jae Gul, but last ep just killed any hope I had for this drama not having any unnecessary love triangle. They don't need it. They already have all the drama needed with Hyun and his ex. You already have love triangle. You don't need another one. Leave my lovely Jae Gul out of this unrequited love mess. He deserved better. I would kill for him and Eun Jae having this sister-brother relationship, especially with his mother saying she will be her mother. That would be such a fresh and new turn of events we haven't seen much in dramas.

I honestly love Kim Jae Gul, also he has one of the more interesting plots in this drama.

I don't think she is the one wanting any revenge. I think she just wants to give the letter to the peron it was written for. The motivation to do it is just as @namopanik said: she identifies with the author of the letter coz she was 'abandon' by her father and now he lives a happy life with a new family.

Okay but like at the end of ep 9 Choi Yeon Kyung could have easily fuck Heo Im over by simply saying he does not have necessary training and medical degree to be a doctor himself lol And he would be in worse situation if that actually happened
Also with that scene I see no redemption for Heo Im. I truly despise people who do bad things with an excuse that they had it bad in life too and they are just trying to survive. It's one of the most used scenarios for villains.
Edit: Now that I saw 10th ep I am even more pissed that they played it like it was not a big deal. it they wanted to go this way they should have not use that scene in the script at all,

i think the majority of people think (me too) that 2013 is the best one from the series (tho there is pretty much no romance, but it's the most realistic one). 2015 is definitely more similar in style to 2017 tho, so if you like this one I guess watch 2015 next :)

it's not as bad as people claim it is but it's not that good either. don't know why she is not acing it tho. I had the same problem while watching 'The Time We Were Not in Love' tho we could blame her meh acting on 'meh' written character there.

I liked this drama a lot, but at the sam time I think it is the weakest from thee school series.

@VandalLimbata Don't make it look like Goblin had high ratings only coz of romance and criminal minds has bad ratings coz it lacks it. There are many strictly romance driven dramas which were not liked by public, and there were many dramas with little or no romance with high ratings.
Also, let people like what they like without calling them names. No one's dumb because they like romance. No ones smart coz they like crime shows. There is no need to be di*k about it.

the worse dramas have probably even worse ratings. Also, ratings depend on many factors not only good cast or the plot, otr even how good the drama is. Time and days it airs are huge factors too. If the drama is 'family friendly'.
As for 'better' actors. That's totally subjective thing so there is no point in even starting that conversation.

Well, Goblin was extremely good for what it was suppose to be: beautiful shot, cheesy love story that is easy to enjoy. This is not as good for it's genre, there are many better crime shows than this one. The low ratings are not really that surprising.

I like it a lot. The only thing that is slightly confusing is: they don't inform us how much time has past between certain story points.