People always want to nickname artists, and most of the time it doesn't come from a place of love!! I find it sad and mean. The guy is free to work where ever he wants, as long as his dramas or movies are good. I support him. He is doing a good job. I like his portrayal of a antihero in Gangnam B Side.
If someone know what disk ML and FL eat in episode 1 around runing tome : 22mn 46 sec I would be thankful. I don't know this taiwanese dish. It is like seafood but I am not sure.
The budget is very low. I think this one of the drama with the lower budget I have ever wwatched. They are cute…
I like Short Dramas as well. Despite the low budget, I am still watching it because : 1) I like the sweet tenderness the leads share. 2) I like the morals so far (ep 12) of the drama. ML did not force himself onto FL when she was drugged with the aphrodisiac. And this is very sweet and positive as a message. Because in some other dramas I know ML kissed a sleeping FL. And this is creepy. I cannot stand the 2 princesss either, I have a hunch they are the true villainess in this drama. I wait for them to get what they sowed.
Yes, this seems to be a problem with current batch of writers. The PAYOFF is not there. In writing a revenge drama,…
Your comment : Heroic Legend an hour ago
@unbeliebubble
Don’t accuse the actor of something he didn’t do. You’re not in his fandom and don’t see every of his activities so you will not understand. He’s one of the actors who made a lot of money for his company, yet in his past project, that stupid company NEVER gave him any appropriate promotion. They gave all the good drama and roles to other actors, so do you think they would do anything for him in this drama when he just plays the sml?
Plus there is NO information regarding that his management hires those scriptwriter to add scenes for him. Mostly would be HATERS who made up stuff to prevent others from liking him. If he wants scene, why don’t he just go act as a male lead in his own drama just like he usually does? Why must bother being a second lead? This is because he said he wants to try new roles to gain different experience. You said that I’m a die hard fan, but it’s you who’s attacking the actor and defamation him without proof. This place is use for talk about the drama and the characters, and not for you to make up stuff and talk trash about the actors. When you started to mention the actor, I realize that it’s more bias and opinions talk.
The scenes that were deleted were scene that connecting his character to the storyline. When they deleted those scenes, his character are disconnected to the plot, which giving more disadvantages over advantage. Y’all said that Xiyan arc is long, but aren’t the leads still play many scene during those time? It’s called Xiyan arc but it doesn’t mean that most of the time you will see YQ.
Put the blame on the stupid writer who doesn’t know how to write a good storyline. I rarely see him in the first 20 episodes, and then when he finally has an episode to himself, people say he has too much screentime? This is the writer's fault, they don’t know how to distribute screen time appropriately throughout the drama.
I’m not here to argue. I simply check back to this page just for fun to see how everyone is doing. I have had enough of people talking trash about YQ but that’s still okay to me cause it’s just the character and the stupid writing. But accusing the actor (bwj) for the additional scenes is another story. Even if I am a new fan of his, I know what’s right and wrong and what’s true and what’s not. Anything that relating to his management doing with this with drama is 100% MADE UP by haters and his anti.
Yes, this seems to be a problem with current batch of writers. The PAYOFF is not there. In writing a revenge drama,…
Your comment : Heroic Legend an hour ago
@unbeliebubble
Put the blame on the stupid writer who doesn’t know how to write a good storyline. I rarely see him in the first 20 episodes, and then when he finally has an episode to himself, people say he has too much screen time. Like wth lol? This is the writer's fault, they don’t know how to distribute screen time appropriately throughout the drama.
The scenes that were deleted were scene that connecting his character to the storyline. When they deleted those scenes, his character are disconnected to the plot, which giving more disadvantages over advantage. Y’all said that Xiyan arc is long, but aren’t the leads still play many scene during those time? It’s called Xiyan arc but it doesn’t mean that most of the time you will see YQ. Plus there is NO information regarding that his management hires those scriptwriter to add scenes for him. Mostly would be HATERS who made up stuff to prevent others from liking him. If he wants scene, why don’t he just go act as a male lead in his own drama just like he usually does? Why must bother being a second lead? This is because he said he wants to try new roles to gain different experience. You said that I’m a die hard fan, but it’s you who’s attacking the actor and defamation him without proof. This place is use for talk about the drama and the characters, and not for you to make up stuff and talk trash about the actors. When you started to mention the actor, I realize that it’s more bias and opinions talk than factual stuff.
Yes, this seems to be a problem with current batch of writers. The PAYOFF is not there. In writing a revenge drama,…
@HeroicLegend It is funny that you want to attack the employee instead of attacking the boss. The additional writers were probably hired to promote the actor through the middling of his agency and or producers. I will not blame the additional writers because they were hired to execute the orders given by the management.
Last time, you were complaining that the depiction I made of prince Yue Qin was too dark to your personal taste. https://kisskh.at/680797-chun-hua-yan#comment-19279504 As a good die-hard fan that you are. Here you come again trying to slander me. You apparently like disputes.
Defamation? You would like it to be defamation because you like fan wars. Like I said I will not loose my time arguing with you, you are trying to stir up trouble, because you are a die-hard fan. The drama is already vilified by the viewers because of the Xiyan arc and you, trying to make me look like a bully will not make people praise the xiyan arc. So you can continue trying to stir up trouble for nothing if you like. But I am out.
YQ was always a dark character, but he used to hide his real face. SML never switched to the dark side. he was…
Your comment : Heroic Legend a month ago
Wow that was a very negative way to analyze SML character after all these episodes. Has they not show his point of view enough like when he was alone? No one is lying to themself when they’re alone. He’s not bad all the time, but he has a weak soul and could easily be taken into the darkness.
Yes, this seems to be a problem with current batch of writers. The PAYOFF is not there. In writing a revenge drama,…
@TaliaToo Indeed BWJ is not a bad actor. One should be blind to believe he is a bad actor. I totally agree, the Xiyan arc was too long. This arc was justified because it was Prince Yue Qin's plan, but it was too long lasting. Disservice to the character? Yes totally. They diluted so much his character that it is hard to qualify his role (antagonist, protagonist, evil SML?)
I think about "lost you forever" and Xiang Liu. He was a SML also, he had 7% screen time in S1 and 14% screen time in S2. But his character was so marvellous and the acting of TJC was so great that, the audience praised Xiang Liu so much that they put his picture everywhere on the internet. I remember 1 day I googled "lost you for ever" and all the images showed Xiang Liu. At the time I was watching another drama. But he was everywhere and I did not want to stumbble on a spoiler, so I decided to watch the show. This is how a great character can make an actor (even more) famous.
*claping* I am also going to resume our favourite hobby soon too. :)
Yes, this seems to be a problem with current batch of writers. The PAYOFF is not there. In writing a revenge drama,…
@Heroic Legend I know that you are a Fan of BWJ. The last time you said you were not a Die-hard but what you are saying here is confusing. Are you unable to see that the majority of the audience dislike the Xiyan arc?
And this is percisely because of this arc that the drama is vilified. I know you like him, but be honest for a minute and open your eyes to the fact that the lack of substance of the Prince Yue Qin in this drama is blatant.
How is it not about BWJ? Did they put a gun on his head to make him play so much additionnal scenes? I don't think so. So much scenes that some of them were deleted. Didn't his agency or producer hire one or several of the 6 writers to set up additionnal scenes for him? Most probably. Don't even try to deny that because it is obvious and the information is known publically.
The problem with die-hard fans is that they will defend their idols, even if the situation doesn't favor the star. Is it logical? I let you answer the questions. I personally love this drama. But I am not blind , I can analyse its flaws.
BWJ's management plummeted the quality of the drama with the Xiyan arc. I cannot believe you want to disociate BWJ from what he did. Whose management it is? *smh*
I will not discuss your contradictory argumentation : He wanted to be an antagonist but the character is not evil enough. And: "How does the writer favor him when they put all the blame and the bad things being done on his character? "
Yes, this seems to be a problem with current batch of writers. The PAYOFF is not there. In writing a revenge drama,…
*claping* You know what. I guessed it when I knew that agencies can hire writers to favor their talent. This is when I started to doubt the Xyan arc. This is just tragic. They killed a great story to promote a random guy. He would have benefited much with less scenes in a top drama, than what they did. which lowered the quality of the show by giving him a longlasting arc. But a meaningless presence. He is an antagonist, after that they wanted to change it in protagonist, to finally ignore all his misdeeds and let him get away with it unscattered. That's just annoying.
Leo luo was in "ashes of love", in wich he wasn't the ML, but his presence was remarkable in it. And it gave him big opportunities. This is how someone can make it. Not downgrading a drama like BWJ' team did.
Yes, this seems to be a problem with current batch of writers. The PAYOFF is not there. In writing a revenge drama,…
Indeed, the strong heroine became a weak tribute gift, passed on by everybody. This is sad. I was hooked by her character in the drama. And I liked her from the start, but the writers did not do her justice in the development of the drama. I am still interested in following her journey. But I admit that, they wronged her.
Moreover I don't know why the writers gave so much time to King of Xiyan instead of giving it to Luo Mei who needed to snap out of that fantasy dream of hers about Murong Xuan Lie. They let her becoming miserable in the end :-/ *SMH*
I don't understand why the writers did that. It doesn't make the audience happy.
One point I disliked about the drama is the morals. 1) villains like Yue Qin can come out unscattered. 2) The main antagonist had a peaceful death, whereas he was a mass murderer. 3) the characters were strong and impressive at the begining and became very weak at the end. Normally, hardships make people stronger. Why in this case did hardships make them weaker? Very weird. This is a great drama but that moral point I don't like. Great cinematography, acting, the first part of the story is great, the second could have been handled differently.
I find it sad and mean.
The guy is free to work where ever he wants, as long as his dramas or movies are good.
I support him. He is doing a good job. I like his portrayal of a antihero in Gangnam B Side.
I would be thankful. I don't know this taiwanese dish. It is like seafood but I am not sure.
1) I like the sweet tenderness the leads share.
2) I like the morals so far (ep 12) of the drama. ML did not force himself onto FL when she was drugged with the aphrodisiac. And this is very sweet and positive as a message.
Because in some other dramas I know ML kissed a sleeping FL. And this is creepy.
I cannot stand the 2 princesss either, I have a hunch they are the true villainess in this drama. I wait for them to get what they sowed.
Heroic Legend an hour ago
@unbeliebubble
Don’t accuse the actor of something he didn’t do. You’re not in his fandom and don’t see every of his activities so you will not understand. He’s one of the actors who made a lot of money for his company, yet in his past project, that stupid company NEVER gave him any appropriate promotion. They gave all the good drama and roles to other actors, so do you think they would do anything for him in this drama when he just plays the sml?
Plus there is NO information regarding that his management hires those scriptwriter to add scenes for him. Mostly would be HATERS who made up stuff to prevent others from liking him. If he wants scene, why don’t he just go act as a male lead in his own drama just like he usually does? Why must bother being a second lead? This is because he said he wants to try new roles to gain different experience. You said that I’m a die hard fan, but it’s you who’s attacking the actor and defamation him without proof. This place is use for talk about the drama and the characters, and not for you to make up stuff and talk trash about the actors. When you started to mention the actor, I realize that it’s more bias and opinions talk.
The scenes that were deleted were scene that connecting his character to the storyline. When they deleted those scenes, his character are disconnected to the plot, which giving more disadvantages over advantage. Y’all said that Xiyan arc is long, but aren’t the leads still play many scene during those time? It’s called Xiyan arc but it doesn’t mean that most of the time you will see YQ.
Put the blame on the stupid writer who doesn’t know how to write a good storyline. I rarely see him in the first 20 episodes, and then when he finally has an episode to himself, people say he has too much screentime? This is the writer's fault, they don’t know how to distribute screen time appropriately throughout the drama.
I’m not here to argue. I simply check back to this page just for fun to see how everyone is doing. I have had enough of people talking trash about YQ but that’s still okay to me cause it’s just the character and the stupid writing. But accusing the actor (bwj) for the additional scenes is another story. Even if I am a new fan of his, I know what’s right and wrong and what’s true and what’s not. Anything that relating to his management doing with this with drama is 100% MADE UP by haters and his anti.
Heroic Legend an hour ago
@unbeliebubble
Put the blame on the stupid writer who doesn’t know how to write a good storyline. I rarely see him in the first 20 episodes, and then when he finally has an episode to himself, people say he has too much screen time. Like wth lol? This is the writer's fault, they don’t know how to distribute screen time appropriately throughout the drama.
The scenes that were deleted were scene that connecting his character to the storyline. When they deleted those scenes, his character are disconnected to the plot, which giving more disadvantages over advantage. Y’all said that Xiyan arc is long, but aren’t the leads still play many scene during those time? It’s called Xiyan arc but it doesn’t mean that most of the time you will see YQ. Plus there is NO information regarding that his management hires those scriptwriter to add scenes for him. Mostly would be HATERS who made up stuff to prevent others from liking him. If he wants scene, why don’t he just go act as a male lead in his own drama just like he usually does? Why must bother being a second lead? This is because he said he wants to try new roles to gain different experience. You said that I’m a die hard fan, but it’s you who’s attacking the actor and defamation him without proof. This place is use for talk about the drama and the characters, and not for you to make up stuff and talk trash about the actors. When you started to mention the actor, I realize that it’s more bias and opinions talk than factual stuff.
The additional writers were probably hired to promote the actor through the middling of his agency and or producers.
I will not blame the additional writers because they were hired to execute the orders given by the management.
Last time, you were complaining that the depiction I made of prince Yue Qin was too dark to your personal taste.
https://kisskh.at/680797-chun-hua-yan#comment-19279504
As a good die-hard fan that you are.
Here you come again trying to slander me. You apparently like disputes.
https://kisskh.at/680797-chun-hua-yan#comment-19279464
https://i.postimg.cc/zXrpBY0s/HL.png
Defamation? You would like it to be defamation because you like fan wars.
Like I said I will not loose my time arguing with you, you are trying to stir up trouble, because you are a die-hard fan.
The drama is already vilified by the viewers because of the Xiyan arc and you, trying to make me look like a bully will not make people praise the xiyan arc.
So you can continue trying to stir up trouble for nothing if you like.
But I am out.
Heroic Legend a month ago
Wow that was a very negative way to analyze SML character after all these episodes. Has they not show his point of view enough like when he was alone? No one is lying to themself when they’re alone. He’s not bad all the time, but he has a weak soul and could easily be taken into the darkness.
I totally agree, the Xiyan arc was too long. This arc was justified because it was Prince Yue Qin's plan, but it was too long lasting.
Disservice to the character? Yes totally. They diluted so much his character that it is hard to qualify his role (antagonist, protagonist, evil SML?)
I think about "lost you forever" and Xiang Liu. He was a SML also, he had 7% screen time in S1 and 14% screen time in S2. But his character was so marvellous and the acting of TJC was so great that, the audience praised Xiang Liu so much that they put his picture everywhere on the internet.
I remember 1 day I googled "lost you for ever" and all the images showed Xiang Liu. At the time I was watching another drama. But he was everywhere and I did not want to stumbble on a spoiler, so I decided to watch the show.
This is how a great character can make an actor (even more) famous.
*claping* I am also going to resume our favourite hobby soon too. :)
Are you unable to see that the majority of the audience dislike the Xiyan arc?
And this is percisely because of this arc that the drama is vilified.
I know you like him, but be honest for a minute and open your eyes to the fact that the lack of substance of the Prince Yue Qin in this drama is blatant.
How is it not about BWJ? Did they put a gun on his head to make him play so much additionnal scenes? I don't think so.
So much scenes that some of them were deleted.
Didn't his agency or producer hire one or several of the 6 writers to set up additionnal scenes for him? Most probably.
Don't even try to deny that because it is obvious and the information is known publically.
The problem with die-hard fans is that they will defend their idols, even if the situation doesn't favor the star. Is it logical? I let you answer the questions.
I personally love this drama. But I am not blind , I can analyse its flaws.
BWJ's management plummeted the quality of the drama with the Xiyan arc. I cannot believe you want to disociate BWJ from what he did.
Whose management it is? *smh*
I will not discuss your contradictory argumentation :
He wanted to be an antagonist but the character is not evil enough.
And:
"How does the writer favor him when they put all the blame and the bad things being done on his character? "
I will not argue with you.
He would have benefited much with less scenes in a top drama, than what they did. which lowered the quality of the show by giving him a longlasting arc. But a meaningless presence.
He is an antagonist, after that they wanted to change it in protagonist, to finally ignore all his misdeeds and let him get away with it unscattered. That's just annoying.
Leo luo was in "ashes of love", in wich he wasn't the ML, but his presence was remarkable in it.
And it gave him big opportunities. This is how someone can make it.
Not downgrading a drama like BWJ' team did.
I was entertained by those endearing charaters.
I gave It 8.5
I am still interested in following her journey. But I admit that, they wronged her.
Moreover I don't know why the writers gave so much time to King of Xiyan instead of giving it to Luo Mei who needed to snap out of that fantasy dream of hers about Murong Xuan Lie. They let her becoming miserable in the end :-/ *SMH*
I don't understand why the writers did that. It doesn't make the audience happy.
1) villains like Yue Qin can come out unscattered.
2) The main antagonist had a peaceful death, whereas he was a mass murderer.
3) the characters were strong and impressive at the begining and became very weak at the end. Normally, hardships make people stronger. Why in this case did hardships make them weaker? Very weird.
This is a great drama but that moral point I don't like.
Great cinematography, acting, the first part of the story is great, the second could have been handled differently.