Genuinely very very happy for everyone who enjoyed it but unfortunately, I felt like that ending was so, so shoddy…
For me the main issue is although the writer did try to hint the souls have mixed, the narrative made it seem like that meant Bonghwan's consciousness mixed with SoYong's memory. We didn't even get a clear indicator that BongHwan's actions were influenced by SoYong. I mean Yes, he keeps blaming SoYong when he started falling for the King, but I assumed that he was just in denial that he does feel something for the King even as BongHwan. I thought this story is going for the 'soul is genderless' theme, but I guess not. A few scenes where SoYong's consciousness takes over would have done the job. Where we can clearly see that the real SoYong is also experiencing and processing everything that happened. Bottomline for me is we did not get enough material to connect to the real SoYong and identify/see her as a major part of the 'Queen' that we all loved. All this time most of us are seeing Queen = BongHwan. I wonder if this is the original ending they intended or it was changed. But it seems the Director understands the problem with the ending hence the spinoffs. With all that, I still love this series and find the casts acting brilliant!
I really enjoyed this. It was super entertaining and funny. I never truly saw it as just his personality .....…
I agree. But the director could have done a better job in making clear that the souls were merged and also make the viewers have some sort of connection to the real SoYong character. We always saw her in her depressive mode that's why it seems she's really nowhere in that body except for her memories. But they are making up for this on the spinoffs now. The King really did get attracted to BongHwan's wacky personality, but also a part of the reason he completely fell for 'the Queen' is knowing about their past (the scene at the water well with real Soyong).
currently watching the spin-off. Atleast we get to see the different side of the real SoYong (the non-depressive side) which shows she's really not that different from BongHwan. Makes the ending more acceptable.
I don’t hate the ending but I feel it is the writer and director’s fault why viewers are not satisfied. They should have made it clear that Soyong and Bonghwan’s souls have mixed and they both have equal influence on that body (not just a combination of Bonghwan’s soul and SoYong’s memory). The way the episodes flowed made it seem like the King really only fell in love with BongHwan (hence it feels like he’s been cheated in this ending). In the previous episode, they even made it clear in that scene with Byung In that there is a completely different person inside the Queen’s body. If only they inserted more scenes and made it very clear that the real SoYong is also experiencing and processing everything together with Bonghwan, then this would have been acceptable. They also made it seem that there was totally no mutual feelings between real SoYong and the King before the swap, remember the KIng is even willing to kill her in the earlier episodes. And it doesn’t help that all the flashbacks we saw of real SoYong is her being depressive, quiet and just about completely opposite of the Queen that the King started falling for. Oh well, maybe that’s the purpose of the spin off, to give viewers a chance to see the different side of the real SoYong.
YESSS, i thought i was the only one! also the scene where they lay together in bed while he's drunk, you can see…
I looked it up in the internet and I found some articles about it from 2018. They thought it's skin atrophy, but given it's 2021 and it's still there, it's probably really a birthmark. He has topless scenes in Rookie Historian though and it doesn't show there (maybe covered with makeup?). But nice catch fellow eagle eyes! haha
I'm definitely happy that this series didn't confuse its identity by pretending to be a melodrama towards the end. I like the fact that the whole last episode is pure joy (minus ofcourse SJ's sad bits). Will this series make it to my Top10 all time favorites? I don't think so. The story is not that deep or special. It's definitely cliche, but what I wouldn't forget is the good vibes and laughter this series has brought to me. And for that I will still give it a high rating. I hope people do not give low ratings just because their ship didn't sail, or rating it with serious high caliber dramas as comparison. Please judge this series solely based on its own category. It's supposed to be a lighthearted romance comedy filled with warmth and laughter, and on that it has definitely delivered. Kudos to the whole cast and crew!! will miss this weekly habit!
I am with you. Since he saw her at Namsan, I think SH wanted to connect with JG again in his ways. Like walking…
True! I mean, what can he do if she's not answering text or call, right? I actually prefer that he's trying to playfully break the ice first rather than immediately going emotionally or crying in front of her.
Maybe I'm part of the minority, but I'm not even hating on SuHo for acting this way. I loooove SeoJun too, but SuHo also deserves the love and was doing the best he can. I actually admire his decision of breaking up with JuKyung as his future is uncertain and he didn't want her to suffer. Also triggered by the fact that he feels upset he cannot be there for her when she needs him or be part of her milestones in life. Some people were upset with his 'stalker-ish' behaviour, but I'm personally not offended by it.
He came back all emo and depressed but seeing JuKyung in Namsan Tower gave him hope (and assumed that she's still single and not over him). SuHo's a bit emotionally stunted, and he's probably also confused on how to react, and with his lack of awareness on social norms, in the end attempted to lighten the mood to get close and talk to JuKyung. But I don't believe he's trying to brush everything off as if nothing happened (you can clearly see he's just forcing the cheerful act, it's not even the normal SuHo), of course the serious talk will soon follow. And how heartbreaking is it that he never changed JK's name on his phone. :(
This! I also had the same thought. His voice and his preference for dark colors remind me of Jang Geun Suk’s…
So true! Now that you mention You're Beautiful I can totally see all the similarities aside from the voice. The body built (tall and slim), the eyeliner, the clothes, the swag attitude. I love them both btw! :)
A few scenes where SoYong's consciousness takes over would have done the job. Where we can clearly see that the real SoYong is also experiencing and processing everything that happened.
Bottomline for me is we did not get enough material to connect to the real SoYong and identify/see her as a major part of the 'Queen' that we all loved. All this time most of us are seeing Queen = BongHwan.
I wonder if this is the original ending they intended or it was changed. But it seems the Director understands the problem with the ending hence the spinoffs.
With all that, I still love this series and find the casts acting brilliant!
The King really did get attracted to BongHwan's wacky personality, but also a part of the reason he completely fell for 'the Queen' is knowing about their past (the scene at the water well with real Soyong).
They should have made it clear that Soyong and Bonghwan’s souls have mixed and they both have equal influence on that body (not just a combination of Bonghwan’s soul and SoYong’s memory).
The way the episodes flowed made it seem like the King really only fell in love with BongHwan (hence it feels like he’s been cheated in this ending).
In the previous episode, they even made it clear in that scene with Byung In that there is a completely different person inside the Queen’s body.
If only they inserted more scenes and made it very clear that the real SoYong is also experiencing and processing everything together with Bonghwan, then this would have been acceptable. They also made it seem that there was totally no mutual feelings between real SoYong and the King before the swap, remember the KIng is even willing to kill her in the earlier episodes.
And it doesn’t help that all the flashbacks we saw of real SoYong is her being depressive, quiet and just about completely opposite of the Queen that the King started falling for.
Oh well, maybe that’s the purpose of the spin off, to give viewers a chance to see the different side of the real SoYong.
Still nothing my fellow campers
He has topless scenes in Rookie Historian though and it doesn't show there (maybe covered with makeup?).
But nice catch fellow eagle eyes! haha
Will this series make it to my Top10 all time favorites? I don't think so. The story is not that deep or special. It's definitely cliche, but what I wouldn't forget is the good vibes and laughter this series has brought to me.
And for that I will still give it a high rating.
I hope people do not give low ratings just because their ship didn't sail, or rating it with serious high caliber dramas as comparison.
Please judge this series solely based on its own category. It's supposed to be a lighthearted romance comedy filled with warmth and laughter, and on that it has definitely delivered.
Kudos to the whole cast and crew!!
will miss this weekly habit!
In the ending scene, did you notice the RED MARKS ON EUNWOO'S NECK? is that a birthmark?
I actually admire his decision of breaking up with JuKyung as his future is uncertain and he didn't want her to suffer. Also triggered by the fact that he feels upset he cannot be there for her when she needs him or be part of her milestones in life.
Some people were upset with his 'stalker-ish' behaviour, but I'm personally not offended by it.
He came back all emo and depressed but seeing JuKyung in Namsan Tower gave him hope (and assumed that she's still single and not over him). SuHo's a bit emotionally stunted, and he's probably also confused on how to react, and with his lack of awareness on social norms, in the end attempted to lighten the mood to get close and talk to JuKyung. But I don't believe he's trying to brush everything off as if nothing happened (you can clearly see he's just forcing the cheerful act, it's not even the normal SuHo), of course the serious talk will soon follow.
And how heartbreaking is it that he never changed JK's name on his phone. :(