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Also it does have some politics, but for me its mostly women being awesome and capable and overcoming hardships

For me very good. One of my favorites. Rather mature, well communicated couple. FL is smart and capable. ML is the quiet strength type. He has some good fight scenes. In my opinion the couple and the drama are underrated

if you like some chinese fantasy go for Fangs of fortune, if you dont try out Blossoms in adversity

Me too! It was so good

He inherited his pretty face too 🤭

the student surpassed the master 😂 mqy is also at least as good at playing hurt and innocent as ming yi

oh absolutely, ji bozai would be proud at his shamelessness

its a HE, they do end up together, they get married in the last ep. lingbo gets together with the one who follows her around - fengchi

just randomly missing this drama today

the Mu twin plot i got lost so badly i had to google which twin was which at one point 😂 but yeah, i agree, it was kinda random that he caused the death of her fellow disciples. he either could come clean and work WITH her to defeat the evil bastard or try to get rid of him himself but without causing unnecessary deaths. and his own death in the end was just - i dunno - if they wanted to show that, they could have also made them talk first.
the last episode disaster is caused by prolonging plots that should have been resolved or dealt with earlier. instead they left it till the very end and did this sudden big climax, that actually felt anticlimactic, and had no way of easing into the aftermath of that. seriously, i didnt read the novel but probably if they stuck to it more, and followed its dynamic, it wouldnt end this weirdly.
ZYR did very well, i agree! would love to see him in more costume dramas.
i was also entertained, i actually rated it rather high i think, but the frustration was also rather high. i like your vision of the ending btw - that would be great. i would have also love to see FL actually react emotionally to the ML at the end, when he was struck, when he was dying, when it could have been the end after all. i would have love to see HER proposing to HIM for example. and for gods sake! they could have given us ONE BETTER KISS. JUST ONE.

the last episode was a total disaster to me and yeah, there was a lot of SML at the end of the drama. i didnt dislike his character but i generally feel like i didnt get enough scenes with the ML so i would have preferred that over SML.
you described Zhao well - i also feel the same way about her, revolving door. she lacked courage to face herself all this time - she called Yunke "master" till the very end like she just could not accept it was him the entire time. still holding on to her comfortable view of who was who and what was what. i feel like when she put the sword in his chest she was still more shocked at him and who he turned to be rather than at the DYING MQY AT HER FEET. and then the episode ended and the next one, final one, was this bullshit illogical mess of a happy end. what the hell.
im not even gonna start on her aunt - she might have been a pillar for the story but they made her a saintly goddess which resonated VERY BAD in the drama.
the editor must have been drunk for some of the parts cause i dont see how else it could have been edited this weirdly, and i didnt even mind it in the first episodes. but i just cant forgive the editing for the final one

it is weird how polarizing this drama may appear, especially after i watched it and didnt find it neither especially bad, nor especially good. for me there really isnt anything to be so polarized about. its a wuxia that has a lot of blood vomitting, sects fighting, good or evil conundrum and an interesting romantic dynamic between a morally grey ML and bound by duty and family FL. if you can bear with some weird editing at the beginning and like tension filled slowburn give it a try but dont be too serious about it, and dont worry if you sometimes get lost in the story (there's lots of characters, i didnt try to remember them all either)

I had to skip most of it 🙈

Yeah i know they explained how he actually lived, i just didnt like how they executed it 🤷

i hated how she called him "master" till the very end and even buried his ashes with her aunt. i would also like to see some serious conversation between ML and FL at the end and not the confusing episode in which he suddenly lives after all and then they sing

it i was that aunt i would have risen from the grave just to dig up his shitty remains and dump them somewhere nasty

i agree, the ending feels very flat. there was no proper build up towards it. sure, the relationship and its push-and-pull dynamic took the whole drama, but there was no proper introduction towards the actual RELATIONSHIP-being together-starting a future part, i was disappointed too

finished. it wasnt bad - not a masterpiece, but certainly had some entertainment value. ive mostly enjoyed the first half - i didnt even mind the weird editing in the first few episodes. even with that the drama managed to build up tension and keep me interested.
for me it started going downhill after episode 20 - my frustration at some redundant plots grew, it was more difficult to keep up with the story and the reasoning behind some character's actions became unsubstiantial. also they mentioned FL's aunt SO MUCH and with such reverence it became almost comical. i understand her part in the story but the way they build her up felt like a plot invasion, she took over everything.
my favorite thing was definitely the push and pull between the leads. ML did fantastic job with his character - havent seen anything else with this actor (i dropped when i fly towards you very quickly) and he impressed me. the character itself was very consistent and complex. ive liked FL too - she was smart and not airheaded, capable. but she did frustrate me, mostly after ep 30 even tho i understood her to some degree. the actress did well but i feel like her makeup artist did her a big disservice - she had such pale ghostly makeup for the whole time i had to change my monitor settings to see her properly. her performance was hindered by erased features.
i wish there had been more romantic scenes cause they had really good chemistry.
i didnt really care for the ending - i feel like it lacked build up. it did feel a bit lackluster to me. but oh well, i will take that. overall i recommend to check it out - especially if you like love-hate relationships with morally grey ML and a reluctant realistic FL. both had flaws and were ultimately very human. i will probably rewatch a lot of their scenes together but not the whole drama

i was thinking the same thing! if i watched the trailer shortly before watching the drama i would be feeling very misled. as it is, i watched the trailer way before so i managed to forget most things that were in it and only realized at the end that i had very different impression from the trailer initially. i dislike false advertisement in every form, but i can at least say that i enjoyed the drama nonetheless

Ah dont even get me started on that 😂😂