I'm frustrated that I didn't watch this show earlier mainly because My Day was such a mess it turned me off from…
same about my day. i wanted to fucking brain myself. theyre named after fucking marx and lenin! i read a thing about the actor who plays vlad it was really lovely, he has a love for the craft completely
sooooo the writers are def anti capitalists i love it
when i found out who were they named afte ri was so excited. ultimately, i didn't end up finishing this (nor watching th elast ep of ITSAY) because i was oto sad to let it go and i had to also, while watching this show, kind of put my preconceived notions on what it was going to be (after fucking SLOGGING through my day omfg what an abysmal piece of work) and really understand what they were saying. while i do believe the dialogue could be smoother this is like probably one of the most ambitious shows i've seen about social commentary (and thus why i shy away from the moniker BL but whatever) with fascinating people who made the show. oh and i really love the young mother—no judgement, just teen pregnancy and also literally wanting to get away from the pressure of motherhood for a while. that matters.
it seems like the crew and cast took their real life harmful experiences about their lives, bodies, sexualities, all the BS and turned it on its head without ignoring the turmoil the world faces even if it was a teensy thing. it's a small production and they had more freedom—GOOD.
great list! i never finishde these cos adhd, but i liked them. one day i'll finish diary of a prosecutor cos it deserves these are more ensemble so i wont' rec anything spooky but i love special inspector jo a lot. it's a show with an extreme heart (and kinda anti capitalist!) ooh and someone mentioned avengers social club which is another one of my fav ensemveles
is just me but after seeing Documentary Episode 5, i cried in the end when they showed how BK and PP sacrificed…
i am so fucking terrified of coral as well. that's why being an actor is so cool you get to experience all these new things and maybe face your fears!!!! they did a great job
he's amazing. sounds pretentious but: i first heard about him in film school and swear he's an editing favorite and pretty influential on me. some cool shit , i didn't know he was a comedian in real life (i guess that's WHY he's so funny lmao) awesome post
I think it makes a lot of sense and also suits Teh's personality. This is also the part some people fail to understand…
first and foremost i think you're right. you learn to deal with it better. i'll be 30 in a few years and i read that it's better because you understand how to manage yourself more. late 20s are turbulent right now, but i know i am adjusting and learning to deal.
there's regrets, of course, but missed opportunities and inexplicable plans—that stuff—that's what you have to learn to move on from. i think you also realize man...to grow up you fuck up. the mistakes make you appreciate the good things.
i agree about letting yourself grow up and that means accepting yourself, too. i struggled with my sexuality until i was about 17 and i don't know what changed i was just like "this is me" but that's only part of the journey.
imo tay is someone who probably wouldn't like living in a box and wants to do what he wants. i think he could probably accept things easier if they were of his own volition not by outside forces (homophobia) to influence him. that's the way i see him at least. he may be one of those people who struggles with understanding himself but his need to follow his emotions comes first; so he will accept himself and do whatever he wants (and i do think he is that type.)
even so, if you know mistakes were made or something happened.....you have your whole life to do what you need to do to be happy. try your best. they're really young kids. being a teenager sucks honestly—well i think it did for me. but it seems like they've all got quiet lives and they can figure things out. this is almost like a teenage life i wish i had. for me the show is saying everything's gonna be alright, you're just figuring things out. things will pass and you will be content. frankly i think that is the best lesson to learn as a young person and the best outcome if your'e writing a coming-of-age series. the drama is their existence so the ending doesn't have to be as grand or sad as we may think for it to mean something. life is weird.
if i see this following the same path as their whole lives have been, pretty normal for young people who have a lot less external strife (environmental issues, abuse, etc) , they'll live and probably find a way to be together (now what this means and HOW it means can develop differently over time.) that's about the most human and youthful thing you could do.
After watching the 1st ep it kind of made it clear in my head that the ending will be sad or at least bittersweet.…
this is one of the most annoying misconceptions about media ever and i am going to die on this hill. seriously, i'm so over it. they teach us this in art school and it's dumb.
Since my mind is super active on a night shift lemme explain why the first scene is not from future, but present.First…
yes...do ppl think....it isnt? oh man i was so confused i was like of coure isnt that obvious. it's probably bc of COVID or the next school year. it would make the most sense if it was 2021. many films/shows/etc also do put themselves in the place of a year ahead because they may not know when it comes out and/or what is happening in real life for events to change in the interim
I think it makes a lot of sense and also suits Teh's personality. This is also the part some people fail to understand…
i think people misunderstand toxicity with being a teenager (and a teenage boy in this one) and growing up. these are all normal things. it would e alarming if he continued to do so but if he's like 17 at most in the series, lives with his mom and older brother....none of them have had true life experiences. they haven't lived away from home, they lived in a small town, it seems as if their home lives aren't exactly turbulent. this is really just...normal. it's frustrating but in the context of 17 year olds who also live in a different society than some of us from the west (that doesnt mean it's better, just different, and probably a little "inherently" freer.)
i mean idk i remember being 17 but i also remember having a lot more going on and all the people that hurt me i'd say there's a big chance they've changed. i know i have. i think that is also kind of like...maybe why people view it as more fatalist than it is. if they stay together, if they get together, if they don't in 5 years time they'll look back and see how monumental it was for them then but when you grow up things just. matter less. get easier. you'll be ok.
Also something dawned on me now. There are these BKPP rumors about having been in a relationship, breaking up…
it woudl be cool—were that true—if they could still be friends and work together hOWEVER in the SHOW i will scream if they dont stay tiogether. ill die simply lmao
i think also about real life it could just be about everyones experiences abt love and growing up and stuff
i agree with you full stop. i'm not a huge fan of Life but the writer has made her mark. i like what you said…
thank you for replying! you're right abt mediocrity. i just watched an actor i literally could not stand do something i never thought he could so i am more optimistic now.
re: LIVE i had no idea people hated them. that's one of the first female characters who has been raped i've ever seen on a kdrama and they actually dealt with it. all of them had massive scars and the way she delved into those really personal relationships and dealt with women was incredible. plus the utilization of all the actors. i never would have thought that bae sung woo and bae jong ok's family would be one we would end up rooting for. it's a crazy good series.
i am going to finish it one day i swear! i love that era and the philosophy. i am against feudalism (obviously) and find the lasting effects of confucianism very damaging but what an insane era to be in and the history of that, into peasant rev, into occupation; some really great historical moments!
and lastly re: s3 you're right abt another reason for HSM to come back although i can see it as just ore shuffling and disregard for the careers of the prosecutors. of all the things the show manages to do that one is the least frustrating for me LOL
i agree with you full stop. i'm not a huge fan of Life but the writer has made her mark. i like what you said…
just looked it up. i love camus but i am hoping the writers will do justice to his work. i am not sure if they will lol. considering what he stood for and what his words and books mean i am worried that they won't. i'm not a big PSH fan but i will probably watch anything with CSW atp.
i hope he is in peace. all the clips i've seen he seems like such a force. it's awesome that it left such a lasting impression on you as a fan. that's the power of good art.
this is true but i do think writing-wise that there needs to be a follow up (this is a whole other essay.)
i don't love slice of life as much anymore but, like you, i am a fan of woo-jung and hee kyung. i am pretty much a staunch radical leftist so to get me to love a show about the police.... hee kyung's LIVE is one of my favorite shows ever. never seen something like it with korean television. a feat. and i probably feel that way about seo sook hyang but i just think her mind is fascinating.
started tree with deep roots but never finished but that point of history fascinates me lol
i agree with you full stop. i'm not a huge fan of Life but the writer has made her mark. i like what you said…
yes you know the one :)
csw is a force so of course. he's so different and it's amazing/ i love him.
RIP gandolfini! maybe i will watch it one day. his build and his face was made for the camera. shit. i wish i could have seen him in the role in "the night of"
i think s3 is imperative tbh but yea we must wait. ty for indulging in this talk!!!
i agree with you full stop. i'm not a huge fan of Life but the writer has made her mark. i like what you said…
nothing can compare to the wire in terms of history. all of them are their own pieces of work. i think OP is just talking about the idea of legacy television, you know? it is extremely korean and it is theirs and it is cultural. particularly for the wire it's such an american show about such a specific topic that wasn't introduced at first then sopranos is very much about class. i guess it's just what shows have a big mark on a culture or at least our impression of that culture. stranger for me is one of those TV shows.
i think op would agree with you btw and i do too! everything has its own merit. these are all fantastically written and acted shows though we are given a gift
when i found out who were they named afte ri was so excited. ultimately, i didn't end up finishing this (nor watching th elast ep of ITSAY) because i was oto sad to let it go and i had to also, while watching this show, kind of put my preconceived notions on what it was going to be (after fucking SLOGGING through my day omfg what an abysmal piece of work) and really understand what they were saying. while i do believe the dialogue could be smoother this is like probably one of the most ambitious shows i've seen about social commentary (and thus why i shy away from the moniker BL but whatever) with fascinating people who made the show. oh and i really love the young mother—no judgement, just teen pregnancy and also literally wanting to get away from the pressure of motherhood for a while. that matters.
it seems like the crew and cast took their real life harmful experiences about their lives, bodies, sexualities, all the BS and turned it on its head without ignoring the turmoil the world faces even if it was a teensy thing. it's a small production and they had more freedom—GOOD.
there's regrets, of course, but missed opportunities and inexplicable plans—that stuff—that's what you have to learn to move on from. i think you also realize man...to grow up you fuck up. the mistakes make you appreciate the good things.
i agree about letting yourself grow up and that means accepting yourself, too. i struggled with my sexuality until i was about 17 and i don't know what changed i was just like "this is me" but that's only part of the journey.
imo tay is someone who probably wouldn't like living in a box and wants to do what he wants. i think he could probably accept things easier if they were of his own volition not by outside forces (homophobia) to influence him. that's the way i see him at least. he may be one of those people who struggles with understanding himself but his need to follow his emotions comes first; so he will accept himself and do whatever he wants (and i do think he is that type.)
even so, if you know mistakes were made or something happened.....you have your whole life to do what you need to do to be happy. try your best. they're really young kids. being a teenager sucks honestly—well i think it did for me. but it seems like they've all got quiet lives and they can figure things out. this is almost like a teenage life i wish i had. for me the show is saying everything's gonna be alright, you're just figuring things out. things will pass and you will be content. frankly i think that is the best lesson to learn as a young person and the best outcome if your'e writing a coming-of-age series. the drama is their existence so the ending doesn't have to be as grand or sad as we may think for it to mean something. life is weird.
if i see this following the same path as their whole lives have been, pretty normal for young people who have a lot less external strife (environmental issues, abuse, etc) , they'll live and probably find a way to be together (now what this means and HOW it means can develop differently over time.) that's about the most human and youthful thing you could do.
idek what im saying but anyway yea i get you.
i mean idk i remember being 17 but i also remember having a lot more going on and all the people that hurt me i'd say there's a big chance they've changed. i know i have. i think that is also kind of like...maybe why people view it as more fatalist than it is. if they stay together, if they get together, if they don't in 5 years time they'll look back and see how monumental it was for them then but when you grow up things just. matter less. get easier. you'll be ok.
i think also about real life it could just be about everyones experiences abt love and growing up and stuff
re: LIVE i had no idea people hated them. that's one of the first female characters who has been raped i've ever seen on a kdrama and they actually dealt with it. all of them had massive scars and the way she delved into those really personal relationships and dealt with women was incredible. plus the utilization of all the actors. i never would have thought that bae sung woo and bae jong ok's family would be one we would end up rooting for. it's a crazy good series.
i am going to finish it one day i swear! i love that era and the philosophy. i am against feudalism (obviously) and find the lasting effects of confucianism very damaging but what an insane era to be in and the history of that, into peasant rev, into occupation; some really great historical moments!
was just reading about suicide and camus in sisyphus https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/camus/#:~:text=%E2%80%9CThere%20is%20only%20one%20really%20serious%20philosophical%20problem%2C%E2%80%9D%20Camus,question%2C%E2%80%9D%20but%20an%20act. he's a pretty interesting figure in my life, i think he helped me live in a time where i didn't want to. it's going ot be interesting to see what htey do at aleast!
and lastly re: s3 you're right abt another reason for HSM to come back although i can see it as just ore shuffling and disregard for the careers of the prosecutors. of all the things the show manages to do that one is the least frustrating for me LOL
i hope he is in peace. all the clips i've seen he seems like such a force. it's awesome that it left such a lasting impression on you as a fan. that's the power of good art.
this is true but i do think writing-wise that there needs to be a follow up (this is a whole other essay.)
i don't love slice of life as much anymore but, like you, i am a fan of woo-jung and hee kyung. i am pretty much a staunch radical leftist so to get me to love a show about the police.... hee kyung's LIVE is one of my favorite shows ever. never seen something like it with korean television. a feat. and i probably feel that way about seo sook hyang but i just think her mind is fascinating.
started tree with deep roots but never finished but that point of history fascinates me lol
csw is a force so of course. he's so different and it's amazing/ i love him.
RIP gandolfini! maybe i will watch it one day. his build and his face was made for the camera. shit. i wish i could have seen him in the role in "the night of"
i think s3 is imperative tbh but yea we must wait. ty for indulging in this talk!!!
i think op would agree with you btw and i do too! everything has its own merit. these are all fantastically written and acted shows though we are given a gift