this is a masterpiece I really love it. between his love interests I think mo caihuan I s toooo good, beautiful, considerate, sympathetic and smart I have some questions about the show: 1_can someone give me a link for the novel? 2_ does this have a sec or third season?
I'm at the end of ep3, I've seen a lot of dramas this is exactly what I was looking for this is simply a masterpiece till now, hope it will keep it up start of the journey of a hero_ brotherhood at it's foolest_ BEAUTIFUL scenery_ a good villain ALL was good
wow I remembered this drama after many years, I've watched toooo Many kdrama and c-dramas but I've never felt the hatred that I had for mother of the ML in this drama for ANYONE ELSE. in dramas I've seen disgusting people and villains, but the hatred that I had for her, nah no one came close to that.
'I thought my mother got depressed because of my poor grade. you didn't consider my feelings' then waht? then she killed herself??:))) you think your mother is an idiot? I like the overall of drama and chemistry between main leads is 🔥. BUT sometimes it just gets tooooo ......
the house that ya en has is something that her family left for her. it has nothing to do with her husband. i feel…
look abusing your woman is all I need to wish the worst for the man. that's not my point, my point is that the plot here is WEAK. because in first eps they say he initiated the divorce and now he regrets it then in ep9 they say no she wanted the divorce first then he suddenly becomes abusive. WHY? because the show wants kairan in the picture. about him being controlling. the only thing that he did was telling her to stay away from kairan. which by all the things that I mentioned in my first comment I think he did a good job. kairan is not a good person.
I'm on ep9, about the second couple: I'm a man let me tell you something about Kai ran, I can NOT believe a man who grew up beating people, owns a bar, seems like he is into shady busineses and considering all of these he is RICH!!! one more thing his first response to the woman he claims he loves for more than 10 YEARS is to hit her with knife which God knows what would happened if jin yu wasn't there. when he realizes ye meng didn't save him 10 years ago his love shifts in a matter of SECONDS not days or months or something else. now the husband of ya en, we don't know much about him except those two are in the middle of divorce which HE initiated it but now he seems like he regrets it, he is frequently visiting his son and wife. ya en seems like she has career which is not doing bad and has an stable income. THESE are all signs of him not being a bad husband. NOW suddenly he becomes ABUSIVE?? and on ep9 she says she wanted the divorce first. this is all so we hate him? this is all because they want him gone and out of the pictures so Kai ran comes in. c-dramas are soooo used to show bad or abusive husbands that I feel like they can not creat any other content so the story of a married couple goes on this is one disadvantage of c-dramas against kdramas
I KNOW it's a drama and some coincidences are allowed BUT toooooo much coincidences for me it feels like they're lying to me. come on, china has 1.4B people. be a little more realistic!!!!
this is not a good drama based two things 1_ endings are a major factor for a drama so we can call it a good one or a bad one: a FORCED happy ending doesn't make a drama a good drama 2_ Evil doesn't get punished. I liked the character of yeomhwa she really suffered because of the loss of her child, BUT she hurt innocent AND killed them, the cost of what she did should've been her life but justice doesn't mean anything in this kind of c-drama or kdramas one good thing about the drama is FML, I think she did good. she has a good potential wish the best for her
it wasn't just his face she fell for, after she saw him for the first time to be certain about him she asked him a question: what would you do if you saw someone in the street crying? remember that? that's when she realized bedside good looks he has a good heart too. actually there was a third factor too. if I'm not mistaken in the past someone told her that she'll meet her fated one upside down or something like that, you know east asian are superstitious especially that she is a shaman. so her reasons are: 1_fate 2_good looks 3_good heart AND if she is supposed to fell for someone else because the is just NICE and has the face of her crush when her real crush is in danger of death then it feals like betrayal and NOBODY would like a betrayer, do YOU?
I get why they don't want kill yeom hwa - to not bring bad karma to them, and considering she getting weak by…
because it's a rule in c-drama and K-dramas IF you are a friend or a family member of the main leads it doesn't matter even if you are a mass murderer, in the end you will be forgiven and probably you'll die a good death.
why do you take it like that tho? when you love someone TRULY love someone are you just going to give up? boy…
yes he tried to kill her and was cruel to her, after that he spent 26 eps making up to her, protected her, defended her and her family, helped her anyway he could and she spent all those eps hating and misunderstanding him ( she was annoying as hell but understandable)untill she got that he's not beast she thinks he was. she figured it out that he wasn't the villain but w man who was trying to right the wrongs himself and even others and STILL humiliated him.he was wrong, yes no doubt. but she was not an angel either. when someone humiliates you you HAVE to let that person go. they reached the point of no return, there is no point in trying to force a couple with such background together
what do they exactly take men as? do they think we are a bunch of masochists? treat a man like that, you'll never see him again. the whole barking like a dog begging for forgiveness plot is truly disgusting
why is everyone in this drama except shen zaiye and the empress an idiot?? come on!! I do like the plot but the drama is full of moronic and inept characters🤦🏻🤦🏻
Eh? Cheating / adulatory happens with married ppl. As of now, no one is married. She and general chu were arranged…
I agree with every single thing you mentioned. just pay attention that these dramas or fictions as you said really do have the power to shap our lives. in this drama she is not a player and not a bad person in general. people may think most of her actions without a second thought is considered good and for a reason. the problem is here. most people think what she is doing romantic AND is not bad. if it's night but enough people tell you we see the sun in the sky you may start to believe maybe I'm wrong. that's when in real life when we see similar cases we may say it's not that bad, after all it's ROMANTIC. I say no. her behavior is wrong. writers shouldn't have written this about her character. at the very least along the story she should admit that she did something wrong.
Eh? Cheating / adulatory happens with married ppl. As of now, no one is married. She and general chu were arranged…
if she saw them as just story characters she wouldn't worry about their lives like that which she did and she certainly wouldn't have ended up falling for one of them which again she did if she really was SYM the proof of their relationship is those 1600 letters which was exchanged between her and chu guihong which was hidden by him(which is not imp because she isn't SYM and that is not my point anyway) they weren't engaged in name she wanted to go through the marriage and didn't reject it untill 15 EPS in the story and because she fell for another. you're absolutely right I don't like those kinda dramas because they violate ethics. I'm sure you've seen lots of cheating or heard their stories around you.if you think about them you can always give the cheating couple a romantic side but do you really do that or will you criticize them? these dramas promote those kind of behavior ESPECIALLY when it's done by the so called goodguys of the story.
Eh? Cheating / adulatory happens with married ppl. As of now, no one is married. She and general chu were arranged…
lesson 1: when you're in a relationship, flirting with someone else is called cheating. it's not just for the married people and it's not just about sleeping with someone else not to mention they were engaged these are like elementary school math should I teach you these?? she told him no in ep15, what about the first 14 eps? you're right at the time she didn't like Nan heng, what about Li Shiliu?
2ML is the cute Shangguan He.You meant 3ML Chu Guihong?He was her long term betrothed, arranged by families.She…
she said it in ep14 or 15! have you forgotten marrying chu guihong was her own intention? yes they were betrothed from birth but since she took over the character she wanted to marry him and in these 14 eps not once did she reject him nor the engagement and meanwhile she flirted and ended up falling in love with someone else look, I'll say it again I'm all for Nan heng. I think he should go for the throne and overthrows his beast of a father and useless brother but somethings are morally wrong should not be done by the one who is supposed to be the goodguyof the story(FML)
am I the only one who thinks she is cheating on the 2ml with ml?don't get me wrong I'm on MLS side in everything even if he overthrows his father and brother, BUT cheating is wrong however you look at it and even if it's just a drama
I have some questions about the show:
1_can someone give me a link for the novel?
2_ does this have a sec or third season?
this is simply a masterpiece till now, hope it will keep it up
start of the journey of a hero_ brotherhood at it's foolest_ BEAUTIFUL scenery_ a good villain
ALL was good
in dramas I've seen disgusting people and villains, but the hatred that I had for her, nah no one came close to that.
I like the overall of drama and chemistry between main leads is 🔥.
BUT sometimes it just gets tooooo ......
because the show wants kairan in the picture.
about him being controlling. the only thing that he did was telling her to stay away from kairan. which by all the things that I mentioned in my first comment I think he did a good job. kairan is not a good person.
I'm a man let me tell you something about Kai ran, I can NOT believe a man who grew up beating people, owns a bar, seems like he is into shady busineses and considering all of these he is RICH!!! one more thing his first response to the woman he claims he loves for more than 10 YEARS is to hit her with knife which God knows what would happened if jin yu wasn't there. when he realizes ye meng didn't save him 10 years ago his love shifts in a matter of SECONDS not days or months or something else.
now the husband of ya en, we don't know much about him except those two are in the middle of divorce which HE initiated it but now he seems like he regrets it, he is frequently visiting his son and wife. ya en seems like she has career which is not doing bad and has an stable income. THESE are all signs of him not being a bad husband. NOW suddenly he becomes ABUSIVE?? and on ep9 she says she wanted the divorce first. this is all so we hate him? this is all because they want him gone and out of the pictures so Kai ran comes in.
c-dramas are soooo used to show bad or abusive husbands that I feel like they can not creat any other content so the story of a married couple goes on
this is one disadvantage of c-dramas against kdramas
come on, china has 1.4B people. be a little more realistic!!!!
1_ endings are a major factor for a drama so we can call it a good one or a bad one:
a FORCED happy ending doesn't make a drama a good drama
2_ Evil doesn't get punished.
I liked the character of yeomhwa she really suffered because of the loss of her child, BUT she hurt innocent AND killed them, the cost of what she did should've been her life but justice doesn't mean anything in this kind of c-drama or kdramas
one good thing about the drama is FML, I think she did good. she has a good potential wish the best for her
actually there was a third factor too. if I'm not mistaken in the past someone told her that she'll meet her fated one upside down or something like that, you know east asian are superstitious especially that she is a shaman.
so her reasons are:
1_fate
2_good looks
3_good heart
AND if she is supposed to fell for someone else because the is just NICE and has the face of her crush when her real crush is in danger of death then it feals like betrayal and NOBODY would like a betrayer, do YOU?
IF you are a friend or a family member of the main leads it doesn't matter even if you are a mass murderer, in the end you will be forgiven and probably you'll die a good death.
I do like the plot but the drama is full of moronic and inept characters🤦🏻🤦🏻
just pay attention that these dramas or fictions as you said really do have the power to shap our lives. in this drama she is not a player and not a bad person in general. people may think most of her actions without a second thought is considered good and for a reason. the problem is here. most people think what she is doing romantic AND is not bad.
if it's night but enough people tell you we see the sun in the sky you may start to believe maybe I'm wrong.
that's when in real life when we see similar cases we may say it's not that bad, after all it's ROMANTIC.
I say no. her behavior is wrong. writers shouldn't have written this about her character. at the very least along the story she should admit that she did something wrong.
if she really was SYM the proof of their relationship is those 1600 letters which was exchanged between her and chu guihong which was hidden by him(which is not imp because she isn't SYM and that is not my point anyway)
they weren't engaged in name she wanted to go through the marriage and didn't reject it untill 15 EPS in the story and because she fell for another.
you're absolutely right I don't like those kinda dramas because they violate ethics. I'm sure you've seen lots of cheating or heard their stories around you.if you think about them you can always give the cheating couple a romantic side but do you really do that or will you criticize them? these dramas promote those kind of behavior ESPECIALLY when it's done by the so called goodguys of the story.
not to mention they were engaged
these are like elementary school math should I teach you these??
she told him no in ep15, what about the first 14 eps?
you're right at the time she didn't like Nan heng, what about Li Shiliu?
have you forgotten marrying chu guihong was her own intention? yes they were betrothed from birth but since she took over the character she wanted to marry him and in these 14 eps not once did she reject him nor the engagement and meanwhile she flirted and ended up falling in love with someone else
look, I'll say it again I'm all for Nan heng. I think he should go for the throne and overthrows his beast of a father and useless brother but somethings are morally wrong should not be done by the one who is supposed to be the goodguyof the story(FML)