All these scenes that feel so idiotic and irrational for someone who is supposed to be a powerful, calculating…
I know, I’ve read it. It would have been better in Wei Zhao’s case as well because unlike the multiple stabbing and choking, she never suffered from the poison that he gave her. It would have made them getting together less of a leap to many viewers
I really don’t know what to think of Jeremy’s treatment in this production.
His role, which in the novel was a complicated, scheming and intelligent character, was reduced to a mindless lovebrain, removing any depth and the best lines from it, almost as if someone had been scared of him turning this into a second Yuwen Hu. His role is officially a main role with the related workload and screen presence, yet his pay cheque was that of a support role. Now, on top of it all, he is getting vilified and insulted by some crazies among the fans.
And yet, it’s always him who is wheeled out when it comes to promoting the show to passersby.
I can only hope and pray that he will find better opportunities in the future that truly value his goodwill and his talent.
Never read the novel, but to me Pei Yan would be much more interesting and complex if it weren't for these scenes…
All these scenes that feel so idiotic and irrational for someone who is supposed to be a powerful, calculating minister have been invented by the scriptwriters to make Pei Yan more unappealing. They were probably afraid that if they leave Pei Yan too much of the depth and intelligence he had in the novel, Jeremy would turn the character into a second Yuwen Hu. Not a nice person, but fascinating.
“Keeping the essence of the characters”? Certainly not in Pei Yan’s case or anyone of his clan. He has been…
In the novel he wqs in love with her, without even realising it himself until she said she was leaving.. He was never “obsessed” to the point of giving up or changing any of his schemes for her. When he had to make a choice he still chose his political vision (something which he doesn’t even have in the drama) over her. If you want to know the difference, just ask yourself, in the novel, who knew of Pei Yan’s feelings for Jiang Ci? That’s right, NOBODY! This Pei Yan had dignity and once he knew she was with Wei Zhao he never interfered.
They changed many things in the show. But I think if they manage it well, it'll still be a good story. And they…
“Keeping the essence of the characters”? Certainly not in Pei Yan’s case or anyone of his clan. He has been lobotomised and turned into a love-crazed idiot who makes a fool of himself at every corner and his mother and uncle have been vilified beyond recognition!
OK, watched up to episode 17... the only episode where Pei Yan being Pei Yan from the novel is episode 14, finally…
Indeed they have ruined this wonderful and complex character beyond recognition. We get to see nothing of his hardships, his inner turmoil and his loneliness. He has even lost all dignity and restraint of the original Pei Yan the way they make him fawn over the FL. I really feel bad for Jeremy having invested so much sweat into such a shitty role! May whoever coerced him into taking this role rot in hell.
Would you suggest reading the novel to understand the story better, or is it best seen as two different things?
It wouldn’t help at all because it is a COMPLETELY different story. If parts of the drama version appear confusing it is because the scriptwriters were off sick the day that logic was handed out.
It’s not just about revenge, his people are still being enslaved, forced into prostitution, killed, and treated…
Yes, the drama announcement portraying him as a powerful calculating minister was a case of false advertising. This Pei Yan couldn’t calculate his way out of a cardboard box. The scriptwriters have totally ruined this character for no reason whatsoever.
Well, the way this script is written feels like a terrorist brainwash. Imagine, your country is holding peace…
I know what he is trying to do... However, as Pei Yan explained to him in the novel, if the two bigger countries fight, his little Yueluo will not go unscathed. More war is never a good solution to anything. And it’s the little people who suffer the most. Also, as a minister of Liang, drama Pei Yan’s actions to defend his country against spies and saboteurs were perfectly justified
Well, the way this script is written feels like a terrorist brainwash. Imagine, your country is holding peace…
I’m not sure if you are familiar with the concept that two wrongs don’t make a right. The fact that you feel the need to call someone who disagrees with you (or the fictional character of the ML) stupid shows me that you are still somewhat lacking in maturity.
ML is a terrorist, he takes pleasure in cruelly terrorising FL from his hiding place...... what a sick 🤢 man.....…
Well, the way this script is written feels like a terrorist brainwash. Imagine, your country is holding peace talks with another country. Thousands of civilians will be able to live in peace, but some assassin and his spies are trying to sabotage the whole thing and throw the world back into war again. One minister works hard to stop them but he gets scolded by his maidservant because some of the spies were a cute old couple. For anyone with a shred of common sense this would seem like madness.
I’m at episode 12 now and I’m starting to wonder what hallucinogenic drugs they fed Jeremy Tsui to talk him into this role. By now it is safe to say that once again, he got well and truly screwed over by his shitty agency and the scriptwriters. After reading the novel, I had high hopes for this role as he would have excelled as scheming prime minister. However, all he does is fawn over the FL and mention at least every other episode that the assassin/Wei Zhao is really smart (in case anyone hadn’t noticed). Where is the calculating, where the scheming, where is the ultimate loneliness? He feels like Yuwen Hu after a lobotomy! I wouldn’t mind at all if he had been made the villain of the story (it is quite clear by now that the scriptwriters are set on vilifying the Pei Clan) because he makes great villains, but at least give the man some acting to do! It really makes me sad to see his hard work and talent wasted like this!
No, SML uses her but without harming her. In fact he is all lovey-dovey around her which is annoying because his…
Yes, very, very loose 😂 In the novel the ML and SML were equally matched which made the story interesting. For the drama, the scriptwriters felt the need to make one incredibly stupid to make the other look good.
No, SML uses her but without harming her. In fact he is all lovey-dovey around her which is annoying because his supposedly scheming and calculating brain has turned into a pile of mush. This character was definitely much better written in the novel where he actually was allowed to be clever. He also had one lapse of judgement where he didn’t take ‘no’ for an answer.
https://weibo.com/tv/show/1034:5082123015487565?from=old_pc_videoshow
I really don’t know what to think of Jeremy’s treatment in this production.
His role, which in the novel was a complicated, scheming and intelligent character, was reduced to a mindless lovebrain, removing any depth and the best lines from it, almost as if someone had been scared of him turning this into a second Yuwen Hu.
His role is officially a main role with the related workload and screen presence, yet his pay cheque was that of a support role.
Now, on top of it all, he is getting vilified and insulted by some crazies among the fans.
And yet, it’s always him who is wheeled out when it comes to promoting the show to passersby.
I can only hope and pray that he will find better opportunities in the future that truly value his goodwill and his talent.
If you want to know the difference, just ask yourself, in the novel, who knew of Pei Yan’s feelings for Jiang Ci? That’s right, NOBODY! This Pei Yan had dignity and once he knew she was with Wei Zhao he never interfered.
https://dramafire.cam/braveness-of-the-ming-2024-episode-12/
We get to see nothing of his hardships, his inner turmoil and his loneliness. He has even lost all dignity and restraint of the original Pei Yan the way they make him fawn over the FL.
I really feel bad for Jeremy having invested so much sweat into such a shitty role! May whoever coerced him into taking this role rot in hell.
This Pei Yan couldn’t calculate his way out of a cardboard box.
The scriptwriters have totally ruined this character for no reason whatsoever.
However, as Pei Yan explained to him in the novel, if the two bigger countries fight, his little Yueluo will not go unscathed. More war is never a good solution to anything. And it’s the little people who suffer the most.
Also, as a minister of Liang, drama Pei Yan’s actions to defend his country against spies and saboteurs were perfectly justified
The fact that you feel the need to call someone who disagrees with you (or the fictional character of the ML) stupid shows me that you are still somewhat lacking in maturity.
Imagine, your country is holding peace talks with another country. Thousands of civilians will be able to live in peace, but some assassin and his spies are trying to sabotage the whole thing and throw the world back into war again. One minister works hard to stop them but he gets scolded by his maidservant because some of the spies were a cute old couple.
For anyone with a shred of common sense this would seem like madness.
After reading the novel, I had high hopes for this role as he would have excelled as scheming prime minister. However, all he does is fawn over the FL and mention at least every other episode that the assassin/Wei Zhao is really smart (in case anyone hadn’t noticed). Where is the calculating, where the scheming, where is the ultimate loneliness? He feels like Yuwen Hu after a lobotomy!
I wouldn’t mind at all if he had been made the villain of the story (it is quite clear by now that the scriptwriters are set on vilifying the Pei Clan) because he makes great villains, but at least give the man some acting to do!
It really makes me sad to see his hard work and talent wasted like this!
In the novel the ML and SML were equally matched which made the story interesting. For the drama, the scriptwriters felt the need to make one incredibly stupid to make the other look good.
He also had one lapse of judgement where he didn’t take ‘no’ for an answer.