I totally agree those scripts are full of misogynistic values and deprive women way too often of agency.When they…
Hierarchy between genders is fully part of misogyny and result of patriarchal construction. I fully disagree with the notion that romance is intertwined with hierarchy when studies show that people tend to more attracted to people that are similar to them. When stories are build exactly the same way with the idea that women need to be saved, need to even be in a relationship to find happiness, where women are dependable on how attractive they are to men, women have to get married…are constructions of patriarchy. Authors that keep pushing those old narratives in 2026 are either naive, misogynistic or lazy. It’s absolutely possible to write stories without those old constructions and those easy tricks.
I totally agree those scripts are full of misogynistic values and deprive women way too often of agency.When they…
First misandry isn’t the antonym of misogyny. Reversing those old fashioned tropes are not to me appealing either to feminists. The idea that love is some kind of competition seems archaic, like going back to animal kingdom. Feminism is quest for equality between genders, ethnic origins, social classes, sexual preferences, people in need (sickness, handicap)… Those secretaries that look like servants/slaves are so ridiculous. Why connecting romance to one’s social status we aren’t in 19 century where only rich people can build a future for themselves. The whole idea that a man that express sentimental inclinations would be less strong is already a nonsense to me. Or complete ignorance of what psychology can achieve. Being oneself, free of outdated social constructions, aligned with good values and one’s emotion is the real power.
I don’t think those two are strong enough to lead any drama right now. Both of them are quite bland and lack asperity and personality. Their acting is ok but nothing impressive and memorable. But anyone can grow, improve…solid support case can also save the day… let’s see how this thing turn out.
Why do they always give the imposing and authorative role to Man like why couldn't that dragon be the FL and normal…
I totally agree those scripts are full of misogynistic values and deprive women way too often of agency. When they are powerful they are cold and mean. The naive sweet dumb woman cliché ends up be the only one that deserves love. Women are too often in position where they need to be saved, rescued. They are rarely in charge. Love is only possible when the man is ok, ready…women in those stories are way too passive and submissive. There are plenty of discussions that need to happen in Korea as they are unfortunately still very bad on anything related to gender gap. But in the same time their success in some parts of the world where women are still internalizing misogyny is also due to those old fashion values so it’s a tough spot for anyone that wants to break the codes.
First episode was translated but the seven others weren’t. Sometimes in that bar what they’re saying is subtitled, sometimes not …but still a little hard for me I missed some words and not everybody had an easy and clear diction. I felt the format was weird. On paper it looks like a good idea but the stories are uneven, messy and not well-structured. It felt also they overcomplicated things that had no business to be that complicated. All those people had very basic little issues that with a bit of maturity you should resolve in a day if you have some personality and judgment. The moments in that Modu bar were the worst, those part are like fictional variety show, the barmen were supposed to be some kind of love experts. But those guys had nothing remotely interesting to say about relationships, basic stuff that anyone knows at 20 (in my region). (“You have to spend time together and eat together…that one of the top tier advice in that dumb bar”). They were going on and on, I wanted to shut them up already at episode 1…it’s like taking advice from your awkward friend that hasn’t been successful in anything. I had this on my watchlist as my last Rowoon’s piece It took me a long time to find 하지만 it did not worth it.
I don’t know who thought it was good taste to have the major couple with suspicious births and that stinky stinks relative bond… They shouldn’t have agreed for that extension now everything is just ridiculous. The twins’ mother Jung Suk, one day is a genius capable of passing for Saoudie millionaire and the day after she has a QI of 50 and can’t speak Korean properly. Is she the cleaning lady of the house or something what the heck is she working in that house? Does the unfaithful husband has made an Irish goodbye we haven’t seen his drowsy face for a while? Maybe the actor had a previous engagement and took the opportunity to leave the party as they all should have done. Why the lawyer mother Young Na is entertaining the criminal Kang biso she is lacking taste, Pride, judgment and common sense? Is she that bored? For once my FMO has the best of me , I should not still be here watching the Titanic miserably drowning 🤣🤣
Like in Who are you 2008. I remember they managed to remove the spirit of the father during those moments but…
I believe here they did not pick up their battle because the promotion material let believe there is a romance to be expected but in meantime no websites in all the languages I’ve checked has tag it as a romance. Always under business and fantasy
Everything is great but it seems they might push a romantic angle for Hwang Jun Hyeon and Kang Bang Geul (as per…
Like in Who are you 2008. I remember they managed to remove the spirit of the father during those moments but I remember also that some viewers felt it was weird as the father had also his secret girlfriend.
Am I tripping I was certain it was announced 120 episodes and now I see 140. Is it a joke? Did they got an extension?
…I am not tripping around April 23d the drama has been extended to 140 episodes. Bad idea they don’t have enough material for 140 episodes. We are getting some stupid subplots, some amnesia, some crazy car accidents…🤷🏽♂️🥴 Never seen a kdramas with a quality ending after an extension!
I was bored from A to Z. The story was not compelling. The acting had nothing special. The end would leave you with the feeling all of that for nothing… There are way better drama out here …to watch only if you are a Kim Young Dae’s obsessive fan or a fantasy addict!
well , he has only one wife . the other one is the mistress .
Do you think it’s better? 🤣🤣 If you have 2 partners living under the same roof that is still polygamy. Even during Joseon Korean men had one wife and numerous concubines under the same roof …so basically nothing has changed….
The old man that shares his house with 2 wives, 2 sons from each wife… I thought polygamy was over in Korea after WW1. Who approved that on public tv? Does house rental in Korea is that expensive that you have to accept that life?
I fully disagree with the notion that romance is intertwined with hierarchy when studies show that people tend to more attracted to people that are similar to them.
When stories are build exactly the same way with the idea that women need to be saved, need to even be in a relationship to find happiness, where women are dependable on how attractive they are to men, women have to get married…are constructions of patriarchy. Authors that keep pushing those old narratives in 2026 are either naive, misogynistic or lazy. It’s absolutely possible to write stories without those old constructions and those easy tricks.
Reversing those old fashioned tropes are not to me appealing either to feminists. The idea that love is some kind of competition seems archaic, like going back to animal kingdom.
Feminism is quest for equality between genders, ethnic origins, social classes, sexual preferences, people in need (sickness, handicap)…
Those secretaries that look like servants/slaves are so ridiculous. Why connecting romance to one’s social status we aren’t in 19 century where only rich people can build a future for themselves.
The whole idea that a man that express sentimental inclinations would be less strong is already a nonsense to me. Or complete ignorance of what psychology can achieve. Being oneself, free of outdated social constructions, aligned with good values and one’s emotion is the
real power.
But anyone can grow, improve…solid support case can also save the day… let’s see how this thing turn out.
When they are powerful they are cold and mean. The naive sweet dumb woman cliché ends up be the only one that deserves love. Women are too often in position where they need to be saved, rescued. They are rarely in charge.
Love is only possible when the man is ok, ready…women in those stories are way too passive and submissive.
There are plenty of discussions that need to happen in Korea as they are unfortunately still very bad on anything related to gender gap. But in the same time their success in some parts of the world where women are still internalizing misogyny is also due to those old fashion values so it’s a tough spot for anyone that wants to
break the codes.
I felt the format was weird. On paper it looks like a good idea but the stories are uneven, messy and not well-structured. It felt also they overcomplicated things that had no business to be that complicated. All those people had very basic little issues that with a bit of maturity you should resolve in a day if you have some personality and judgment. The moments in that Modu bar were the worst, those part are like fictional variety show, the barmen were supposed to be some kind of love experts. But those guys had nothing remotely interesting to say about
relationships, basic stuff that anyone knows at 20 (in my region). (“You have to spend time together and eat together…that one of the top tier advice in that dumb bar”). They were going on and on, I wanted to shut them up already at episode 1…it’s like taking advice from your awkward friend that hasn’t been successful in anything.
I had this on my watchlist as my last Rowoon’s piece It took me a long time to find 하지만 it did not worth it.
They shouldn’t have agreed for that extension now everything is just ridiculous.
The twins’ mother Jung Suk, one day is a genius capable of passing for Saoudie millionaire and the day after she has a QI of 50 and can’t speak Korean properly. Is she the cleaning lady of the house or something what the heck is she working in that house?
Does the unfaithful husband has made an Irish goodbye we haven’t seen his drowsy face for a while? Maybe the actor had a previous engagement and took the opportunity to leave the party as they all should have done.
Why the lawyer mother Young Na is entertaining the criminal Kang biso she is lacking taste, Pride, judgment and common sense? Is she that bored?
For once my FMO has the best of me , I should not still be here watching the Titanic miserably drowning 🤣🤣
…I am not tripping around April 23d the drama has been extended to 140 episodes. Bad idea they don’t have enough material for 140 episodes. We are getting some stupid subplots, some amnesia, some crazy car accidents…🤷🏽♂️🥴
Never seen a kdramas with a quality ending after an extension!
There are way better drama out here …to watch only if you are a Kim Young Dae’s obsessive fan or a fantasy addict!
If you have 2 partners living under the same roof that is still polygamy. Even during Joseon Korean men had one wife and numerous concubines under the same roof …so basically nothing has changed….
The old man that shares his house with 2 wives, 2 sons from each wife… I thought polygamy was over in Korea after WW1. Who approved that on public tv? Does house rental in Korea is that expensive that you have to accept that life?