For this drama, the scriptwriter deserves praise for a great script. The director,camera and production deserve praise for making it happen and pulling out all the juice out of the script and acting, and the actors deserve praise for interpreting it in a way that makes it even more engaging, fun, and watchable. The director, camera and production deserve praise by guiding and/orallowing actors to go in the direction that is most engaging, and showing scenes and details that accentuate that effect. And the music too... Undercover Miss Hong consists of non-stop engaging scenes that have tons of comedy and numerous details that make the scene very rich.
So the script is the start of a potential flop or success..... On a bad script, even great actors and director cannot do much.... But a good script can be ruined by bad director or bad actors LOL AND THE FIRST LINK IN THE CHAIN IS WHOEVER PAYS MONEY TO MAKE THE DRAMA/MOVIE... they decide to make a drama on a trashy script or not... So they are the key...
As for trash scripts, like Our Universe or Dynamite Kiss, I realized that it is NOT the scriptwriter to blame, it is whoever approves the script. The scriptwriter can write any kind of trash or not, but someone has to approve it and PAY MONEY FOR IT. And the director and camera can potentially ruin a good script too, by requiring actors to interpret the script in trashy ways...
If the top thinks that a trashy drama will make money, they will buy the trashy script ....
and the trashy scriptwriter can legitimately make a living by writing trash - why not!!!! If someone buys the trashy script, why not..... The trash-writing scriptwriter has no shame and just collects their money. It is legitimately earned money LOL It is just such EMBARASSMENT to be known as the "trash writing scriptwriter" ... and who cares for complaining audience or conscience about writing trash and ruining actors' careers and wasting drama time... WHOEVER APPROVED AND BOUGHT THE TRASHY SCRIPT AND MADE IT "ALIVE" IS THE KEY CULPRIT
When I saw Nora strongly twitch when she saw Shin..... I think Nora fell in love with Shin so she is gonna wanna take him - and maybe that's why she changed her mind? - and honestly, they would make a good pair -
and FL might take Albert. The way he was standing behind her is .. hm... they are a team that is verrrry tight. It would not surprise me if FL takes Shin either bc they closely worked together and now he is all tame. I am not sure if he has a good reason to go back to being a bad guy when she gave him a good job... And it would not surprose me if FL takes nobody LOL for a while. I think she wants somebody, so when the time is right and she recovers from this mess, if the right guy comes along, he will succeed. TIMING :) and the RIGHT APPROACH :)
During the first encounter between Ms. Hong and Albert, he was completely mesmerised by her beauty. What about…
I m just about to post about that. I think Nora fell in love with Shin so she is gonna wanna take him, and FL might take Albert. The way he was standing behind her is .. hm... they are a team that is verrrry tight
weak ... some script writer/director/producer ruined the plot with some repetitive bs .. I love FL there ML is .. meh nothing special ... not the strongest actor out there... he is ok for some romantic scenes secondary characters are all great actors and it is an educational drama, to see IMF crisis
From the comments it seems that this show does not have romance at all. Why is the romance tag in the genres then?…
@vanilleur ML and FL are exes who still have feelings and work in the same place and go against each other, FL and SML work in the same place and are on the same team and go on some dates, she is flattered and he is in love, and Nora fell in love with Shin, and Lee has a crush on FL There is LOTS of romance and ppl are making choices that make up the drama based on their romantic feelings
She'll end up with Tae seo, at least in the webtoon they marry at the end
Oh I see your point now when you explained it. Thanks for clarifying. Well some dramas should end like that, like Our Universe, ML and FL should not end together, the drama is forcing them and it is soooo cheesy and fake... Probably FL-SML should have eloped and left Woo Ju to his uncle. Undercover Miss Hong also doesnt require Miss Hong to walk away with a guy..... although it WOULD be more fun :) but it would happen only at the very very end I can think of some other dramas like that.
Here.. hm... the Dog Walker actually is the only choice - she already fell in love with him on the 1st date. 5 seconds in... lol ... so .... no way out of that :)
It's gonna take a while bc he is not teasing her hormones like the other guy did... So.... the not-predicable is - how will that solemn guy wake up his hormones to match her, since she is in the ON mode now and she forgot that she already decided she loves him - so she does not even see him as a man. The unruly impulsive kid is teasing her. The serious guy should start teasing her too so that she sees his value :)
I love the Dog Walker ML.... It is the same actor from Glory and Queen of Tears, but he is a totally totally nice wonderful guy here and he acts i sooooo well, I recognized him only in ep 2 LOL after I saw the comments LOL He is so good acting as a nice guy!
THAT ACTOR IS A MASTER ACTOR, he is acting his role so well, he is so charming and kind and honest, I looooove his character!!!!! That actor is like a chameleon, he can act anything!!!! Wow skillZ!!!! Now I am his fan!!! this is really masterful acting!!!!
I also love the appearance of Idol I FL as his ex. He always seem to act the same, rather poker faced cold, but at least she is good at that and looks pretty LOL
and I love SML actor too, he is a really good actor too. I wonder if he is a model or something he IS really thin... his forearms would not seduce anyone, and from the side, he looks like he has no width. Luckily, he has very expressive face and acts with his whole body, luckily he is a really good actor.
I also dont understand why the FL **and** the audience can be so dumb. At the end of the 1st date, after she bisched about ruining her dress, Dog Walker clearly offered to drive her home and to talk some more and to schedule the next time and she said NO. ****That is a NO.**** SHE ESSENTIALLY TOLD HIM SHE DOES NOT LIKE HIM AND SHE WENT HOME ALONE. He is not gonna call her. SHE HAS TO CALL HIM. HE ALREADY ASKED AND SHE REJECTED HIM
Then the audience bisched about her being immature and checking her phone. HELLO!!!!! during their 1st date, FL already decided she likes him and is already in love with him. Of course she is waiting for his call.
BUT FL IS TOO DUMB TO EVEN REMEMER SHE ALREADY REJECTED HIM AT THE END OF THE 1ST DATE.
Is the whole drama be like this, based on the dumbness of FL?
Then the "hot guy" and why not go with someone so exciting and hot.... Omg... !!! how can anyone think that? That dude came late, offended her so many times, was completely inconsiderate, lied, etc... then tried to bag her.... HOW IS HE "HOT"? He is an immature jerk and he is super boring actually, there is no substance to him. An inconsiderate selfish rude lover is no fun.
Gosh!!!!!
and the most fun part - FL knew that. When she told him about lust she was super wise and rational and I was like bravo, go girl, take care of yourself. Good job!
So yeah this drama has hope. FL is not a total moron. She has smarts too. I might watch this.
These days I have no patience and drop any drama I dont find valuable.
Watched the first 2 episodes and I loved some of it but expected it to be more...grown up? Like, it’s got “edgy”…
Having said that I do not want to voyeur, I come back here to agree with you that FL is written as an idiotic loser teenager. She is a woman child. I cannot stand to see yet another dumb FL like that.
Ok I finished ep 1. This is my feedback. FL shows different sides of her with diffferent men. WHILE FL was chasing that young lawyer, I thought she was a total clueless teenager moron. the classical kdrama dumb FL. I was furious. Yeah thinking he will love her after 10 yrs, not reading the room, doing irrational stupid things, ... classic sexism of kdrama FLs. Aggh. I was just about to drop this drama..
Then the introverted but kind and honest Dog Walker showed up - I like him a lot!!! that guy is a gem!!!! and he is right - he is not into sleeping around, so he asked to make sure she isnt either and she will not be expecting that from him and they are both on the same page... Anyways while FL was withi him, she was so natural and so wise and considerate - he fits her. She already decided they are a match. It took her 5 seconds she said and she KNEW. They are a perfect pair. Bc she is outgoing compared to him, so their relationship is very smooth. He came out immediately. They both feel comfortable around each other.
FL is still dumb and clueless and written as a chaste teenager if she does not understand why so many ppl have these casual dates just to mate. She is too ... DUMB to not know that. I agree that she is written as a mentally ill chaste teenager, woman child.
She is too dumb and clueless to not think where SHE wants to go with a man - does she ever want to get married... ? Is she open to just mating? So yeah that part of FL is really ... ugly. Mentally disabled woman child, is my opinion and it is time for kdramas to start thinking about showing smarter women. HOW CAN AN ADULT WOMAN THINK THAT HE IS ASKING HER TO MARRY HIM AFTER 30 MINS? he is simply saying - if this goes well, I would like to get married.
WHY IS FL SO DUMB?
Then the preview showed her with the hot guy who just wants to bag her. Sure - that idea is appealing.... after you figure out the STD dangers and risks..... but then there is the day after, when he becomes cold and distant and the magic is OVER. Maybe it will not be the day after but a few days after - but for sure, it will happen, as the hunter starts looking for a new fresh prey. Some women and men CAN take that bc they just mate like dogs. CAN our FL take that? I dont think so.
As someone who never dated in my life until recently, I agree with you. Even if it's fictional, it's wild how…
i dont know where you are from, but in the USA, a decent and truly single straight guy is an endangered species at the verge of extinction. There are more women then men, there are so many gay men, then the good straight guys are all taken, and what is left... is a pool of players who string women one by one or even in multiples. It is a TOTAL NIGHTMARE. There are really no decent men to date.
be HONEST y'all...how many of you still have a slight dislike of Park Sung Hoon, because of his despicable character…
His role in The GLory is slimey too :) and he was soooo good at it..
but also... he can be good as a good guy too :)
Proof of concept: the doting dad from Twinkling Watermellon and Family of Choice became a super nasty villain in To my Beloved Thief, precisely with the same attributes - soft spoken, polite LOL it is either nice OR he can make it super creepy LOL
Watched the first 2 episodes and I loved some of it but expected it to be more...grown up? Like, it’s got “edgy”…
I think Koreans are very good at taking the sexual side of life as a normal part of adult life and also in treating the ENTIRE human being, not just their hormones, like the western media does... So we see informed choices and organic propagation of events based on a deeper connection. That makes sense to me.
So... I am very happy not to be forced to watch the porn of ppl's private moments... I dislike voyeurism under the pretense of "drama worthy of adults".... I think Koreans are quite successful in portraying those moments with taste and showing two people walk into a room etc with a clear indication of why ...... and there is no need to follow them!!!!!!! I trust they know what to do... . and yeah there are kdramas with super artificially chaste people and that can go overboard sometimes. The unrealistic parts are these men who stay single not dating for like 10 years, waiting for their woman.... I wonder... where are they going for a quick fix in the interim... ?
but generally, I like portraying people as HUMANS, not just mating dogs.... and that is why I watch kdramas.
FYI ppl who started defending the show and ppl who said SML had no faults or that there is nothing wrong with ep 9,10 made me put in effort and redo my review and LOWER the rating significantly. It took me some thinking to do that because
I really do not want to hurt ML actor and Woo Ju actor with a bad review. I think they did a stellar job. The drama is totally theirs. There is no way to rate them separately so I hesistated to give the overall rating for the drama. BUT I DID IT.
Side characters are pretty good, SML is a mediocre actor - nothing personal - and FL cannot act - nothing personal, I am gonna skip anything with that actress in the future. Sorry but life is short. No time to watch bs.
And the script is trash and whoever asked for it and/or approved it is a TOTAL MORON. The script writer does not give a hoot - they can write the ugliest trash - and if someone buys it - they make a living by writing trash!!!! it is totally legitimate!!!!! So: WHOEVER APPROVED THIS SCRIPT IS AT FAULT. They should quit drama/movie business.
The drama started so well and then became FL-centered, and she led SML on, she started chasing him first, so we got to see FL and SML flirt and go on dates, and ML and baby barely on the screen, ML as a supporting ROOMMATE / HOUSEMAID character, and Woo Ju a decorative item to bait the audience to watch.
Overall, this drama is a CHEAT, it is a disgusting false advertisement. We did NOT come here to watch office romance between FL and SML. We did NOT come to watch 12 ep of lovey dovey young family with a cute baby either, We came to watch how 2 strangers came together to overcone their character flaws and traumatic past and provide a home for a baby and a family for all of them.
SML as the ffirst love, criminal dad, all their character flaws, HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED as it is necessary to clean up the past before they can continue into a new future, BUT THE PACING has to be such that it all fits into 12 episodes. Which is not easy but the producer chose 12 ep instead of 16, 20 or 50 eps. So - live with it and squish it all in without diluting the story,
AND THE STORY IS ABOUT ML. FL AND WOO JU. Not about SML.
DID AI WRITE THIS SCRIPT? WHO ACTUALLY WROTE THE SCRIPT? WHO APPROVED THIS SCRIPT????
So the script is the start of a potential flop or success..... On a bad script, even great actors and director cannot do much.... But a good script can be ruined by bad director or bad actors LOL
AND THE FIRST LINK IN THE CHAIN IS WHOEVER PAYS MONEY TO MAKE THE DRAMA/MOVIE... they decide to make a drama on a trashy script or not... So they are the key...
As for trash scripts, like Our Universe or Dynamite Kiss, I realized that it is NOT the scriptwriter to blame, it is whoever approves the script. The scriptwriter can write any kind of trash or not, but someone has to approve it and PAY MONEY FOR IT. And the director and camera can potentially ruin a good script too, by requiring actors to interpret the script in trashy ways...
If the top thinks that a trashy drama will make money, they will buy the trashy script ....
and the trashy scriptwriter can legitimately make a living by writing trash - why not!!!! If someone buys the trashy script, why not.....
The trash-writing scriptwriter has no shame and just collects their money. It is legitimately earned money LOL It is just such EMBARASSMENT to be known as the "trash writing scriptwriter" ... and who cares for complaining audience or conscience about writing trash and ruining actors' careers and wasting drama time...
WHOEVER APPROVED AND BOUGHT THE TRASHY SCRIPT AND MADE IT "ALIVE" IS THE KEY CULPRIT
and FL might take Albert. The way he was standing behind her is .. hm... they are a team that is verrrry tight.
It would not surprise me if FL takes Shin either bc they closely worked together and now he is all tame. I am not sure if he has a good reason to go back to being a bad guy when she gave him a good job...
And it would not surprose me if FL takes nobody LOL for a while. I think she wants somebody, so when the time is right and she recovers from this mess, if the right guy comes along, he will succeed. TIMING :) and the RIGHT APPROACH :)
I love FL there
ML is .. meh nothing special ... not the strongest actor out there... he is ok for some romantic scenes
secondary characters are all great actors
and it is an educational drama, to see IMF crisis
There is LOTS of romance and ppl are making choices that make up the drama based on their romantic feelings
Well some dramas should end like that, like Our Universe, ML and FL should not end together, the drama is forcing them and it is soooo cheesy and fake... Probably FL-SML should have eloped and left Woo Ju to his uncle.
Undercover Miss Hong also doesnt require Miss Hong to walk away with a guy..... although it WOULD be more fun :) but it would happen only at the very very end
I can think of some other dramas like that.
Here.. hm... the Dog Walker actually is the only choice - she already fell in love with him on the 1st date. 5 seconds in... lol ... so .... no way out of that :)
It's gonna take a while bc he is not teasing her hormones like the other guy did... So.... the not-predicable is - how will that solemn guy wake up his hormones to match her, since she is in the ON mode now and she forgot that she already decided she loves him - so she does not even see him as a man. The unruly impulsive kid is teasing her. The serious guy should start teasing her too so that she sees his value :)
THAT ACTOR IS A MASTER ACTOR, he is acting his role so well, he is so charming and kind and honest, I looooove his character!!!!! That actor is like a chameleon, he can act anything!!!! Wow skillZ!!!! Now I am his fan!!! this is really masterful acting!!!!
I also love the appearance of Idol I FL as his ex. He always seem to act the same, rather poker faced cold, but at least she is good at that and looks pretty LOL
and I love SML actor too, he is a really good actor too. I wonder if he is a model or something he IS really thin... his forearms would not seduce anyone, and from the side, he looks like he has no width. Luckily, he has very expressive face and acts with his whole body, luckily he is a really good actor.
There are lots of star actors in this drama
Then the audience bisched about her being immature and checking her phone. HELLO!!!!! during their 1st date, FL already decided she likes him and is already in love with him. Of course she is waiting for his call.
BUT FL IS TOO DUMB TO EVEN REMEMER SHE ALREADY REJECTED HIM AT THE END OF THE 1ST DATE.
Is the whole drama be like this, based on the dumbness of FL?
Then the "hot guy" and why not go with someone so exciting and hot.... Omg... !!! how can anyone think that? That dude came late, offended her so many times, was completely inconsiderate, lied, etc... then tried to bag her.... HOW IS HE "HOT"? He is an immature jerk and he is super boring actually, there is no substance to him. An inconsiderate selfish rude lover is no fun.
Gosh!!!!!
and the most fun part - FL knew that. When she told him about lust she was super wise and rational and I was like bravo, go girl, take care of yourself. Good job!
So yeah this drama has hope. FL is not a total moron. She has smarts too. I might watch this.
These days I have no patience and drop any drama I dont find valuable.
FL shows different sides of her with diffferent men.
WHILE FL was chasing that young lawyer, I thought she was a total clueless teenager moron. the classical kdrama dumb FL. I was furious. Yeah thinking he will love her after 10 yrs, not reading the room, doing irrational stupid things, ... classic sexism of kdrama FLs. Aggh. I was just about to drop this drama..
Then the introverted but kind and honest Dog Walker showed up - I like him a lot!!! that guy is a gem!!!! and he is right - he is not into sleeping around, so he asked to make sure she isnt either and she will not be expecting that from him and they are both on the same page...
Anyways while FL was withi him, she was so natural and so wise and considerate - he fits her. She already decided they are a match. It took her 5 seconds she said and she KNEW. They are a perfect pair. Bc she is outgoing compared to him, so their relationship is very smooth. He came out immediately. They both feel comfortable around each other.
FL is still dumb and clueless and written as a chaste teenager if she does not understand why so many ppl have these casual dates just to mate. She is too ... DUMB to not know that. I agree that she is written as a mentally ill chaste teenager, woman child.
She is too dumb and clueless to not think where SHE wants to go with a man - does she ever want to get married... ? Is she open to just mating? So yeah that part of FL is really ... ugly. Mentally disabled woman child, is my opinion and it is time for kdramas to start thinking about showing smarter women. HOW CAN AN ADULT WOMAN THINK THAT HE IS ASKING HER TO MARRY HIM AFTER 30 MINS? he is simply saying - if this goes well, I would like to get married.
WHY IS FL SO DUMB?
Then the preview showed her with the hot guy who just wants to bag her. Sure - that idea is appealing.... after you figure out the STD dangers and risks.....
but then there is the day after, when he becomes cold and distant and the magic is OVER. Maybe it will not be the day after but a few days after - but for sure, it will happen, as the hunter starts looking for a new fresh prey. Some women and men CAN take that bc they just mate like dogs. CAN our FL take that? I dont think so.
FL is written as a total loser moron
FL is wrtten as an idiot
but also... he can be good as a good guy too :)
Proof of concept: the doting dad from Twinkling Watermellon and Family of Choice became a super nasty villain in To my Beloved Thief, precisely with the same attributes - soft spoken, polite LOL it is either nice OR he can make it super creepy LOL
So... I am very happy not to be forced to watch the porn of ppl's private moments... I dislike voyeurism under the pretense of "drama worthy of adults".... I think Koreans are quite successful in portraying those moments with taste and showing two people walk into a room etc with a clear indication of why ...... and there is no need to follow them!!!!!!! I trust they know what to do... .
and yeah there are kdramas with super artificially chaste people and that can go overboard sometimes. The unrealistic parts are these men who stay single not dating for like 10 years, waiting for their woman.... I wonder... where are they going for a quick fix in the interim... ?
but generally, I like portraying people as HUMANS, not just mating dogs....
and that is why I watch kdramas.
I really do not want to hurt ML actor and Woo Ju actor with a bad review. I think they did a stellar job. The drama is totally theirs.
There is no way to rate them separately so I hesistated to give the overall rating for the drama. BUT I DID IT.
Side characters are pretty good, SML is a mediocre actor - nothing personal - and FL cannot act - nothing personal, I am gonna skip anything with that actress in the future. Sorry but life is short. No time to watch bs.
And the script is trash and whoever asked for it and/or approved it is a TOTAL MORON. The script writer does not give a hoot - they can write the ugliest trash - and if someone buys it - they make a living by writing trash!!!! it is totally legitimate!!!!!
So:
WHOEVER APPROVED THIS SCRIPT IS AT FAULT. They should quit drama/movie business.
The drama started so well and then became FL-centered, and she led SML on, she started chasing him first, so we got to see FL and SML flirt and go on dates, and ML and baby barely on the screen, ML as a supporting ROOMMATE / HOUSEMAID character, and Woo Ju a decorative item to bait the audience to watch.
Overall, this drama is a CHEAT, it is a disgusting false advertisement. We did NOT come here to watch office romance between FL and SML.
We did NOT come to watch 12 ep of lovey dovey young family with a cute baby either,
We came to watch how 2 strangers came together to overcone their character flaws and traumatic past and provide a home for a baby and a family for all of them.
SML as the ffirst love, criminal dad, all their character flaws, HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED as it is necessary to clean up the past before they can continue into a new future, BUT THE PACING has to be such that it all fits into 12 episodes. Which is not easy but the producer chose 12 ep instead of 16, 20 or 50 eps. So - live with it and squish it all in without diluting the story,
AND THE STORY IS ABOUT ML. FL AND WOO JU. Not about SML.
DID AI WRITE THIS SCRIPT?
WHO ACTUALLY WROTE THE SCRIPT?
WHO APPROVED THIS SCRIPT????