Kannadin

And yet another comment section I'm just going to leave because people don't want to put spoiler tags...

Saaaaaaaaaaaaaaame
He didn't bother me until now but he's been really manipulative in this episode. I understand he wants to take his chance but he leaves no room for Joe to think for himself. The poor guy has just seen his own bones and participated in his own funeral... Give him a break!!!

EDIT: I hadn't got to the "He's my boyfriend" part.
Now I just want to KILL HIM.

Err... I didn't say otherwise.

Didn't read the entire novel but most of it to satiate my curiosity... But Ming in the novel... He might have considered that Joe wasn't fit to replace Tong... But at the end of the day he made that decision unilateraly. Joe takes pride in his work, he should have been given the chance to try and fail instead of just receiving things. It's one of Ming's main issue in the novel... He wants to give Joe what he assumes is best without understanding that Joe worked hard to get where he is and would rather fail than be given anything "for free". This is actually way worse for his self esteem than if he acted and the film tanked. In fact it's even worse because by assuming that Joe is not good enough to replace Tong, he literally spit on Joe's pride proving to Joe that in Ming's eyes, Joe will always be second best since Ming never even gave him a chance to prove him otherwise.

Just my 2 cents.

Also Ming's possessiveness is quite unhealthy... which probably didn't play in Joe's favor. Joe is portrayed as kind and pretty mature and people just like him, whereas Ming is cold and aloof. In the novel you can see Joe has friends and acquaintances... whereas Ming has nobody that cares about him besides his family (as disfunctional as it is). His secretary is not a friend but an employee. So basically he has no friends. His whole being revolves around Joe. That's makes for great angst and passionate feelings but would be so unhealthy in real life.

Anyway. Rooting for this couple anyway... But I want to see Ming grovel and desperate as in the novel so I really hope they portray it properly in the drama.

Ju Ji Hoon's haircut...
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

You know you can just edit your post... just saying.

Their relation is toxic for sure... But it's how you sell that toxicity that makes it a hit or miss. As far as I'm concerned, it just didn't work in the first Chinese version because it was too one sided and forceful ( and I can't forget the "butt" scene, that was awful). On the other side, I'm currently watching "My Stand In" and though the relation was indeed toxic ( and even more in the novel) it's better sold notably because you can see how much the toxic one regrets his past actions ( and in the novel the amount of grovelling is heartbreaking). In my memory, in Addicted... The relationship is toxic but the toxic one ultimately gets what he wants without going through a phase in which he learns to respect his partner.
Anyway the toxicity again, is not what bothers me... as long as you know how to sell it. Almost anything is ok in fiction as long as it's not pedophilia or s*** assault... And if there s*** assault as it was sadly very frequent in BLs from the early 2000s, you need to make the characters atone for their sins before they get together, otherwise it just cannot work.

The film was actually pretty good... But I found the open ending... really frustrating. I wish they hadn't done that because we obviously know what is hinted at... on both fronts...and it's not pleasant.
That doesn't negate the quality of the movie... though I wish it had been less gory.

Great ending song btw.

Good for you.
I'm halfway through it. Having a good time. But for me, based on what I've seen so far I'll probably rate it between 8.5 and 9.
Not among my favorites but still very enjoyable. Apart from the fact that it has a slow start and not so great music in my book, I can't find any heavy flow... But I'm just not as much into it as I wish I was.

So I hated "Addicted" with the whole s** assault thing... Dropped it.

I loved "Stay With Me"... But I wished it was a true BL instead of this very heavily censored version because their dynamic was way healthier and it's too bad they did this bromance cosplay...

And here I was looking forward to maybe finally have a version I could fully enjoy until I read the comment section and checked the age of the leads.

Will there ever be a problem-free version of these novels or is there some sort of curse here?

Either they remove all the NC scenes... And focus only on the romance, and that will be Ok in my book... but I will be disappointed because yes, I don't like overly sexualized series but I believe a little bit of steam is part of a healthy romantic relationship and the novel is... very explicit in that matter ( flipped through it and I like the story but I'm not a fan of these scenes which I personally find too brutal but that's a personal opinion), hence I believe one or two scenes should at least portray the intensity of their feelings.

But if they put some NC scenes, I'll feel very conflicted about the whole thing. For a simple reason... 16 is a bit young to really measure what you're currently doing whether his parents agree or not, is not really the issue... They are plenty of young stars who regretted doing s*** ambiguous scenes too early in their career and blamed the adults around them when they got older for not protecting them. They were too young to realize what was the impact of what they were doing. It's not because his parents have approved that it makes it right.

Let's not forget the brain is only fully developed around the age of 23 for women and 25 for men.

And here we have 16. It's not even f** 18 years old.

So I don't know... I'll probably check it out... Maybe they're planning two seasons... one in high school and remove all the NC scenes in the novel... And that will be ok...
And then a second season later, when I don't remember which character is in the army and the other a businessman. At least by the time it comes out, the youngest lead will have at least turned 18.

Why Thaïland Why?

I didn't know when I started it but I checked after because the drama was a bit too good compared to the usual Thai BL fare.

Just check my Watchlist and display it by country. Most of what I've seen from Thaïland are BLs anyway so just check the ratings... Anything above 8.5 is a worthwile watch for me and those are 9 or above are what I personally consider favorites... BUT just a warning, I rate based on my enjoyment level... It doesn't necessarily mean the plot is extraordinary but I had a good time and more importantly I loved the characters ( which is the most important thing in my book... I try to avoid hate watching).
At the top of my head I'd say Kinnporsche, Not Me, Love in the Air ( the first 6 episodes... I didn't like the second couple as much but that's a matter of taste and lets be honest acting) , Cutie Pie, Never Let Me Go and The Eclipse.
Lots of people loved I Told Sunset About You... It's a good one with high quality production as well, but I personally found it a bit slow... Some of these dramas are either available on Iqiyi, Viki and/or Youtube.

It's on Youtube as well.
https://www.youtube.com/@yyds_ent/videos
All previews are uploaded on this channel.

Currently on Episode 2.
Best BL I've watched from Thaïland since 2022. Good God, why so many mediocre BL when they know how to make good ones? I'm rating it 9 out of 10 based on my enjoyment level so far.
Tong is insufferable but Joe is such a gorgeous sweetheart. Love him already. Ming is an idiot. Totally blind.

I flipped through the novel since I was too curious so I know where the series is going but I'm not sure they'll have the time to make Ming grovel enough in the series compared to the novel.
Anyway Poom is a nice discovery ^^ I'll be checking his next projects from now on, he's such an eyecandy :D

WHY SO CUTE SHOW!
Also Han Sun Hwa is a cute bubble of sun... But Uhm Tae Goo is cuter. Nobody can beat a big bear acting all shy on the cuteness scale.

My God What is happening on Viki? Are they on steroïds?
Episode 2 is already up!
Gotta watch it NOW.

I second Leo Sigh's comment
You should only check MDL ratings a couple of months after a show has finished its run and not trust it too much.
Personally it's a hit or miss. Sometimes I agree with the general ratings but often I don't, so I usually check at least the first two episodes before committing to any show. I do have to mention though, that if a show is rated below 8 on MDL, and I don't like the first two episodes, I usually check reviews or comments to see if people are bothered by the same things I was, if it's yes, I drop it, if it's no... I give the show a chance for a couple more episodes.

For me that a very solid first episode. It delivered on its promise and the ML/FL had great chemistry in the first few occurrences we saw them together. I'm only worried about the length... Romance centered drama without any additional thriller/fantasy element tend to fare better with 12 episodes than 16... Usually it veers into melodrama in the latest episodes... So I'm invested all the while being a bit wary of it especially since it's the only project listed for this screenwriter.

So... I swore to myself I wasn't going to watch another series live after Lovely Runner because I don't like being obsessed... But that trailer was just sooooooooooooooo cute. I had to give it a try. I only watched Han Sun Hwa in "School 2017" and I remember loving the drama all the while thinking it was ridiculous she played a teacher at the time when she looked barely older than her students but whatever. As for Uhm Tae Goo, I watched him in the drama "Hometown" and I don't remember his voice leaving a deep impression.

I must have been deaf, or he didn't have lots of lines because my GOD, THAT VOICE. THAT VOICE.
That's all I have to say. Also I have a weakness for any big dude being all soft so this is right up my alley. The voice is just the cherry on top.

Have to go to sleep so only watched the first 20 minutes but so far, so fun ^^

I think it depends on in which order you watched them. For me they're two very different shows. Yes, they both involve time travel and high school shenanigans but honestly the focus of the story is not the same... So I understand the comparison but I feel they should be judged separately.
Again I'll reserve my final judgment once I reach the end... But it won't be a 10, no matter how good the story turns out to be because it just took too much time to get its gears going.

Hope it doesn't fall into the category of "we took our sweet time for everything and we rushed the end" otherwise I'm gonna get pissed.

I'm on the end of Episode 4 and Yi Chan's got a really nice voice. Not my style, but at least he sounds like a singer, unlike the singer from the 2023's timeline whose voice is just horrible - sorry no hate for the actor but he can't sing.