With all these comments, I don't know if I shoulf watch it or not... ahhhh I am scared it will make me sick....
Gave up after episode 4... 4 episodes of time wasted... but I still drop here to have a laugh with the comment section. Out of all the time I dropped a show, I have to say this is the first time I'm 1000% sure I made the right decision.
So turns out I had more complicated ideas than the author. This is actually pretty straightforward.
There's only 2 timelines: Puppy Great and Dark Great's and Puppy Great has been seeing vision's of Dark Great's timeline four minutes ahead of his, hence making different choices. Though their trajectory is different, some key moments cannot be avoided.
The only thing I still find confusing is Tonkla. If we are in Puppy Great's timeline, there should be no Dark Tonkla since there is no dead Dome. But in Dark Great's timeline, we should have a Dark Tonkla, which is what's been hinted at... But Dark Tonkla is being chased by Win not hooking up with him.
But in that case, in which timeline does Win and Tonkla get together? The reason why Tonkla and Win got together was because Win is investigating Dome's death... so Dome is dead. However, there's no reason for Tonkla to attack Great in Puppy Great's timeline since he's the one who saved Dome... although it could remotely understand it if he decided to attack Title. So logically, we should have a Puppy Tonkla in Puppy Great's timeline...
Yet, from what's been shown so far we have a Puppy Tonkla in Dark Great's timeline since Puppy Tonkla has rejected Korn - who is a massive a**hole in whichever timeline - and got with Win after Dome's murder.
Or is there some third timeline where Puppy storylines and Dark storylines intersect? Or Am I still making it too complicated for my poor brain? Maybe it's just that Dark Tonkla did hook up with Win and the scene we see at the beginning of episode 6 only happen days/weeks after Tonkla killed Title and/or attacked Great.
Apart from that, I couldn't help but laugh at the irony of the last scene when Great is literally giving a lecture to his criminal parents regarding killing people when he literally killed somebody ( although not by his doing since the woman committed suicide... though HE doesn't know that) and didn't care one bit. Or maybe he started to grow a conscience after meeting Thyme?
That part was also a bit confusing as well btw. In Puppy Great's timeline, Thyme seemed to not know that Great was related to the family that killed his parents and seemed genuinely interested in him. Aside from that, when Thyme attacked Korn, Thyme was the one who voluntarily showed his face to Great.
Yet, in Dark Great's timeline, Thyme approached him when he heard his name and Great was the one who removed Thyme's mask after the latter attacked his brother.
I wonder what is the goal of that difference?
It's not like Great changed names between both timelines... Thyme knew the name in both so why in Puppy Great's timeline was he surprised? Also why did the reveal of the Thyme's face happen differently?
But appart from all that Mindfudge, and even if Dark Great is a terrible person compared to Puppy Great - who isn't that great either - not gonna lie, I love Thyme and Great's dynamic in both timelines. Particularly, I love that Great whether in Dark or Puppy mode is still a puppy when he's interacting with Thyme. It's my romantic heart talking.
I think it's that's something only available in the US. In Europe there's only the Standard subscription which…
Hmm... Must be only available for the American continent then. I used a VPN once located in California, and honestly I didn't see the difference with my Standard subscription ( I'm from France)... So yeah, I don't really see the point. Unless you're into movies or very very old K Dramas. I'm not really a movie person... and as for very old dramas... Got to admit there's a bunch I'd like to see... But there's so many new shows that come out I don't even have the time anyway so...
Also the Standard subscription in Europe gives you access to 1080p... Correct me if I'm wrong but I saw at that time that the standard in North America only gave you access to 720p.
Doesn't surprise me though. North America has a knack for sucking people dry with nonsensical prices. There's more consumer protection in Europe. Youtube premium is one such exemple. Been using several adblockers for years... Don't see the point of youtube premium but apparently in the US at least, if you use an adblocker, youtube slows down your page on purpose.
Wasn't expecting anything from GMMTV and glad I did. I was looking for something to relax... nothing too serious and this seems to be what I got ( I'm at episode 4). Didn't expect anything from the NC scenes... and glad I didn't because the spice is not there for sure, "Only Friends" delivered way more in that area but since I didn't expect anything I'm not dissapointed. This seems to be another very generic rom com' from GMMTV. Not great, not terrible. Just good enough to pass the time and be forgotten less than a week after finishing it. I've yet to reach the end but I already know my final ratings won't go over 7.5 though depending on the final episodes, given everyone's comments, it might go lower.
makes no sense that this was added to viki's plus catalogue. it should've been added to the standard plan -_-
I think it's that's something only available in the US. In Europe there's only the Standard subscription which is available and Wandee Goodday is part of it. This being said Kokowa content is also not available in Europe and there's a couple of K dramas that fall into that category. Anyway, didn't watch it as it aired. I'm glad I don't have my episode interrupted every 10/15 minutes with a stupid preview of the next scenes.
Final ratings 7.5.I initially wanted to write a review but in the end I gave up because it would be too long...…
Worst plot hole is the fact that Lan Zhu is supposed to be an NPC created solely for Jiu Shi whose existence started when Jiu Shi entered the game... But in that case how come all the other characters that are part of Obsidian aren't NPC themselves since they were part of Obsidian before Jiu Shi joined them? The last 3/4 episodes are just WTF. Doesn't make any sense.
The drama doesn't explain how Lan Zhu was able to live outside the game in spite of being an NPC and so on and so forth. Maybe it's better explained in the novel... I don't know, I'm judging the drama. It's not my job as a viewer to fill the holes left by the writers when adapting the story. And there's also quite of lot of things that were hinted at and then completely ignored and left unexplained...
And as usual with many C drama adaptations of novels - I have yet to find a single C drama that doesn't do it - they take their sweet time telling their story often dragging things out and then completely rush the ending.
Final ratings 7.5. I initially wanted to write a review but in the end I gave up because it would be too long... Too many incoherences and blatant plotholes on top of very badly written anti-american propaganda spoiled the show for me especially by the time we reached the end. Ultimately I strangely still enjoyed the show, but I can't give it an 8 or more because of the points mentioned before.
Glad to finally be able to watch this legally, too bad they did it so late in the game but maybe they'll learn…
So Finally checked and indeed the first time Great woke up in episode 1, the clock is at 11:00. However after the accident with the woman it's still 11:00 on the clock. It's only after Dome died and he saved him that the clock moves up to 11:01 ( beginning of episode 3). Haven't checked the rest cuz no time. I have to look for all the scenes in which Great is in his apartment and there's not that many.
I avoid medical dramas like the plague since I had my dose of "ER" in my childhood... But it's Ji Sung. I'll watch him in anything. He was the ML in the first K drama I ever watched and though some dramas he acted in were disapointing... HE always delivered. He is THE charisma God.
I wish netflix also had subs for english-speaking scenes, as tbh it was a bit hard for me to fully follow the…
I wouldn't say French is monotone per say ( it's my mother tongue as well)... In French, when you stress words it's because you want to put some emphasis on the word itself. For instance if I say " C'est CHaud" I'm stressing the Ch because of my intent. However "chaud" as a word has no stress whatsoever.
In Korean you have the same things. If I say 맛있어 - Mashisseo - Tastes good. I can say: 맛있써 - MashiSSeo to imply that it's really good and show my appreciation but the words itself is "flat".
In English, the stress is integral to the word itself. JaPAN is always said JaPAN whether you want to put some emphasis on the word or not. It doesn't mean there is no intonation in English but it's on top of the imbedded stresses in the word. I hope it's clearer now.
I wish netflix also had subs for english-speaking scenes, as tbh it was a bit hard for me to fully follow the…
Hmm.... If you say Constitution in English you say ConstiTUtion. If you say Japan... You say JaPAN. CHOcolate, LItterature, CoMMUnity etc.
In Korean, Spanish or French there is no such thing as long syllables/short syllables + no stresses on syllables. So mastering pronounciation + the switching between long and short syllables + the stresses on top of clearly understanding everything so that you make a pose at a "natural place in the sentence" is a headache for non-native speakers.
When words are short, it's usually on the first syllable. However in a sentence, small grammatical words are usually not stressed unless you want to make a point eg: blablablablabla BUT blablablablabla
There's a couple of rules to know where to place them, but so many exceptions that it's useless to learn them. Basically it takes lots of listening to native speakers to get the stresses down and a couple of years of practice.
I wish netflix also had subs for english-speaking scenes, as tbh it was a bit hard for me to fully follow the…
Yeah I always wonder for these types of dialogues if they ask for people who are fluents or Koreans who have learned the language.
Now for the accent, it's actually pretty ok from both sides. The main issue... is more the "stresses" on words. English puts "stresses" on some syllables in each word at different places... I don't know if native speakers realize this or talk about it in school... When your own mother tongue doesn't have stresses: Korean, French, Spanish etc... getting the pronunciation right is one thing, but the stresses are the hardest part. If the pronunciation is perfect but stresses are absent, unless the people talking are speaking very slowly, which wasn't the case here, it's difficult to distinguish separate words.
Anyway, compared to most K dramas I've seen, I thought it was pretty ok. Some parts were harder than others but overall, It was okayish.
I wish netflix also had subs for english-speaking scenes, as tbh it was a bit hard for me to fully follow the…
There's ENG SDH subs. I switched to those for the English speaking parts personally. Like you, I just couldn't understand what they were saying. The English was... err... not so good ( but I've heard way worse in other dramas so...). If you speak another language, you can also just switch to those. EDIT: I finally came across the part where we meet Seok Ryu's former colleague but I'm sorry, his English is better than Jung So Min's. Hope we've finished with the English now that that part's done though.
Oho.. I spoiled myself the preview for next week and we're finally getting there ^^But I hope the "misunderstanding" is just a red flag from the writers in the preview. Today's episode looks veeeeeeeeeery good for the romance lovers out there if the videos available on tvn youtube channel are any indications. 😁😁😁
This is actually pretty straightforward.
There's only 2 timelines: Puppy Great and Dark Great's and Puppy Great has been seeing vision's of Dark Great's timeline four minutes ahead of his, hence making different choices.
Though their trajectory is different, some key moments cannot be avoided.
The only thing I still find confusing is Tonkla.
If we are in Puppy Great's timeline, there should be no Dark Tonkla since there is no dead Dome.
But in Dark Great's timeline, we should have a Dark Tonkla, which is what's been hinted at... But Dark Tonkla is being chased by Win not hooking up with him.
But in that case, in which timeline does Win and Tonkla get together? The reason why Tonkla and Win got together was because Win is investigating Dome's death... so Dome is dead. However, there's no reason for Tonkla to attack Great in Puppy Great's timeline since he's the one who saved Dome... although it could remotely understand it if he decided to attack Title. So logically, we should have a Puppy Tonkla in Puppy Great's timeline...
Yet, from what's been shown so far we have a Puppy Tonkla in Dark Great's timeline since Puppy Tonkla has rejected Korn - who is a massive a**hole in whichever timeline - and got with Win after Dome's murder.
Or is there some third timeline where Puppy storylines and Dark storylines intersect? Or Am I still making it too complicated for my poor brain?
Maybe it's just that Dark Tonkla did hook up with Win and the scene we see at the beginning of episode 6 only happen days/weeks after Tonkla killed Title and/or attacked Great.
Apart from that, I couldn't help but laugh at the irony of the last scene when Great is literally giving a lecture to his criminal parents regarding killing people when he literally killed somebody ( although not by his doing since the woman committed suicide... though HE doesn't know that) and didn't care one bit.
Or maybe he started to grow a conscience after meeting Thyme?
That part was also a bit confusing as well btw.
In Puppy Great's timeline, Thyme seemed to not know that Great was related to the family that killed his parents and seemed genuinely interested in him. Aside from that, when Thyme attacked Korn, Thyme was the one who voluntarily showed his face to Great.
Yet, in Dark Great's timeline, Thyme approached him when he heard his name and Great was the one who removed Thyme's mask after the latter attacked his brother.
I wonder what is the goal of that difference?
It's not like Great changed names between both timelines... Thyme knew the name in both so why in Puppy Great's timeline was he surprised? Also why did the reveal of the Thyme's face happen differently?
But appart from all that Mindfudge, and even if Dark Great is a terrible person compared to Puppy Great - who isn't that great either - not gonna lie, I love Thyme and Great's dynamic in both timelines. Particularly, I love that Great whether in Dark or Puppy mode is still a puppy when he's interacting with Thyme. It's my romantic heart talking.
Also the Standard subscription in Europe gives you access to 1080p... Correct me if I'm wrong but I saw at that time that the standard in North America only gave you access to 720p.
Doesn't surprise me though. North America has a knack for sucking people dry with nonsensical prices. There's more consumer protection in Europe. Youtube premium is one such exemple. Been using several adblockers for years... Don't see the point of youtube premium but apparently in the US at least, if you use an adblocker, youtube slows down your page on purpose.
I was looking for something to relax... nothing too serious and this seems to be what I got ( I'm at episode 4).
Didn't expect anything from the NC scenes... and glad I didn't because the spice is not there for sure, "Only Friends" delivered way more in that area but since I didn't expect anything I'm not dissapointed.
This seems to be another very generic rom com' from GMMTV. Not great, not terrible. Just good enough to pass the time and be forgotten less than a week after finishing it. I've yet to reach the end but I already know my final ratings won't go over 7.5 though depending on the final episodes, given everyone's comments, it might go lower.
Not really sure about the drama though.
The drama doesn't explain how Lan Zhu was able to live outside the game in spite of being an NPC and so on and so forth. Maybe it's better explained in the novel... I don't know, I'm judging the drama. It's not my job as a viewer to fill the holes left by the writers when adapting the story. And there's also quite of lot of things that were hinted at and then completely ignored and left unexplained...
And as usual with many C drama adaptations of novels - I have yet to find a single C drama that doesn't do it - they take their sweet time telling their story often dragging things out and then completely rush the ending.
I initially wanted to write a review but in the end I gave up because it would be too long... Too many incoherences and blatant plotholes on top of very badly written anti-american propaganda spoiled the show for me especially by the time we reached the end. Ultimately I strangely still enjoyed the show, but I can't give it an 8 or more because of the points mentioned before.
However after the accident with the woman it's still 11:00 on the clock.
It's only after Dome died and he saved him that the clock moves up to 11:01 ( beginning of episode 3). Haven't checked the rest cuz no time. I have to look for all the scenes in which Great is in his apartment and there's not that many.
In Korean you have the same things. If I say 맛있어 - Mashisseo - Tastes good. I can say: 맛있써 - MashiSSeo to imply that it's really good and show my appreciation but the words itself is "flat".
In English, the stress is integral to the word itself. JaPAN is always said JaPAN whether you want to put some emphasis on the word or not.
It doesn't mean there is no intonation in English but it's on top of the imbedded stresses in the word. I hope it's clearer now.
If you say Japan... You say JaPAN. CHOcolate, LItterature, CoMMUnity etc.
In Korean, Spanish or French there is no such thing as long syllables/short syllables + no stresses on syllables. So mastering pronounciation + the switching between long and short syllables + the stresses on top of clearly understanding everything so that you make a pose at a "natural place in the sentence" is a headache for non-native speakers.
When words are short, it's usually on the first syllable. However in a sentence, small grammatical words are usually not stressed unless you want to make a point eg: blablablablabla BUT blablablablabla
There's a couple of rules to know where to place them, but so many exceptions that it's useless to learn them. Basically it takes lots of listening to native speakers to get the stresses down and a couple of years of practice.
Now for the accent, it's actually pretty ok from both sides. The main issue... is more the "stresses" on words. English puts "stresses" on some syllables in each word at different places... I don't know if native speakers realize this or talk about it in school... When your own mother tongue doesn't have stresses: Korean, French, Spanish etc... getting the pronunciation right is one thing, but the stresses are the hardest part. If the pronunciation is perfect but stresses are absent, unless the people talking are speaking very slowly, which wasn't the case here, it's difficult to distinguish separate words.
Anyway, compared to most K dramas I've seen, I thought it was pretty ok. Some parts were harder than others but overall, It was okayish.
EDIT: I finally came across the part where we meet Seok Ryu's former colleague but I'm sorry, his English is better than Jung So Min's. Hope we've finished with the English now that that part's done though.