🤣🤣🤣 honestly, i like the drama so far, but it could have been 12 episodes. I think the stroy dragged…
Dunno that yet... I'm on episode 4. This show seems to be very loved on MDL... I've read a couple of comments mentioning it was better than Lovely Runner. Maybe I don't know. Lovely Runner was a 10/10 for me, I loved the characters and story so much I didn't care one bit for the ridiculously huge plot holes and though it wasn't a drama centered around music, the music was just chef's kiss which is unfortunately not the case here. I don't like their singing nor the OST so far... but at least the OST is listenable though not to my taste.
Anyway my opinion is... I understand it didn't become a cult phenomenon like Lovely Runner did... For a very simple reason... It takes too much time to really take off. Episode 4 is finally starting to get the story's gears turning, and it's starting to finally look like a youthful, cute and fun show... But it took 3 episodes to get there... when Lovely Runner grabbed most people at the end of the 2nd episode so first week ( I was personally sold after episode 1 but I know it was not the case for most people). I'm finally starting to enjoy myself... but I feel It took too much time to get there. I hope I won't feel like you once I reach episode 11.
Anyway, bottom line, if you were watching as it aired, you would have had to tune it for the 2nd week to see the story gearing up... and let's be honest, with the amount of shows available, most people are just not that patient unless there's some strong buzz behind.
So I hesitated to post this comment... I posted it then erased it... But I'm still going to say it anyway. I have just started this drama... Currently on episode 3... I'm not sold yet. It's not a bad watch... But I'm having trouble getting into the story... But that's not my main issue.
For a drama that seems to be centered around music (so far), the music truly makes my ears bleed. The vocals are terrible. I just want to mute the sound every time I hear somebody singing. It's just that bad. Hopefully it gets better... Or better yet, they stop singing in following episodes otherwise it's going to be a very very painful watch on my part.
Ok... This is one of these rare instances were I struggled to rate. It checked all the boxes for me and then some but the excessive violence really spoiled it. Basically, violence in comics has to be tuned down when made in live action otherwise it turns very gory... And my God, does this drama feature quite a lot of it. It's particularly obvious at the beginning of the series... by the end I got numb to it... which I don't think is a compliment. I don't particularly enjoy getting used to this type of things.
Anyway... If it wasn't for it, It would have been a 9.5 or 10... But because of it I hesitated to give an 8.5 or 9. If I rated it solely on my enjoyment scale... I'd say an 8. But honestly, everything is top notch from the story, to the acting, to the music... It's complicated. I really really really wanted to like it as much as everybody else... Especially since this casting is just COMPLETELY INSANE. But I just can't get over the violence especially since the story is so well crafted, why oh WHY did they have to make it so gory? There are tons of great action packed K-Dramas that don't go that route and are just stellar so WHY????
Anyway... Given all these factors... I would rate it 8.75 But since you can't give that ratings on mydramalist, It was a matter of rating it up or down...
But Gotta be honest with myself. It's an 8.5 It's already very highly rated here so no impact of the overall MDL ratings but I think if you're like me and hate excessive violence... You might need to reconsider watching this although all the stories are really touching in particular Gang Hoon's father and son story.
It took 7 episodes to take off and as loveable as Bong Seok is... I wasn't particularly sold... But things are finally getting really interesting in episode 8. HOWEVER. I could do without all that excessive violence. I avoid US shows like the plague because of it and I know it's frequent in K-movies, but so far K-Dramas have avoided it albeit for a few exceptions ( I'm looking at you Voice...) but seems to me that shows entirely produced by platforms such as Netflix or Disney + are "indulging" in it to "satisfy western audience".
I had to turn my head several time given how gory some scenes turned out to be especially since it didn't add anything to the story except pure shock value. I'm enjoying the story so far... and will wait for the end to reach a final judgment but it's a definitive minus 1 ( though as far as I'm concerned it deserves a minus 3 at least) for that American-style violence that should be kept in the US where apparently good storytelling has been flushed down the toilet in favor of overly violent and sexualized garbage.
half the people in this comment section more stupid than the issue itself tbh
You know. I had answered a long reply to one of the most stupid comment I read... But than I saw your answer and I erased it. I also want to spare my brain cells.
I don't really understand what you mean. 15kg over the course of 2 months is pretty okay for a man with an intense…
I agree with you regarding looks. It's South Korea, looking good is part of the job. My main issue is the comment above regarding the fact that it is okay to lose such a huge amount of weight for a man his size. It's just not. Spreading such disinformation regarding how to manage your weight is ridiculous and it leads to complex for people who can't manage to lose the same weight in the same amount of time when in fact they're the normal ones, not the other around.
The comment regarding "intense workout" is also ridiculous. If you exercise, you're going to get more muscles and hence put on weight, given muscles are heavier than fat. Having the right balance between what is enough to eat to lose the fat without losing muscle-mass is not that easy to achieve. Let alone in two months. The article focused on his weight-loss... But he could be weighting 75 to 80kg all the while being pretty lean is he put on muscles... But since it's not the look you're going to have as a drug addict, the only conclusion available is... he starved himself and health be damned.
As for Ji Sung... He's an old timer, he probably prepared his role way ahead... he should have also started to lose weight way before instead of doing something so dangerous. But again.. It's South Korea... Looks will always come before health.
Love OffGun... First Thai BL I ever watched was Theory of Love. Loved it. Then I saw Not Me. Still the Best Thai BL for me.
Struggling with this one after two episodes...
Dropping it for now... Will come back to it in a couple of months, maybe I'll be more in the mood. I've seen too many very mediocre Thai series recently and this one smells very bad from the getgo... But it's OffGun... and I truly want to give this show a chance.
Some people liked it but the general consensus seems to be that this is not a good show... But It's OffGun. So...
8.5 to you, but 9.2 to majority of people here, obviously.
Actually 10 for me :D Somebody commented that they were surprised by the number of negative reviews for a show so highly rated. But it's actually fairly simple: Most people loved this show to pieces, so people with a different opinion feel the need to express themselves which they wouldn't have necessarily done if the show wasn't as popular.
And it's perfectly okay. I think it's important for people who didn't like it as much to express themselves. It prevents people from being disappointed or wasting time if the show is not for them. I recently finished Word of Honor... which is very very much loved and gave it a ratings of 4.5. Truly terrible. Unfortunately I didn't see any negative review before starting it. They exist... But you do need to dig. And these negative reviews had very valid points made... with which I agreed when watching the series. Had I seen these before, I wouldn't have wasted more than 30 hours of my life on that show.
So... I truly think Hye Yoon and Woo Seok deserves all the praise and love they're currently getting. No arguing about this... Unfortunately nobody deserves this:
In substance Woo Seok's agency is taking legal action because people have been visiting him at his residence. Yes... Just like in the drama. He's find himself some real-life stalkers. I'll never get it.
No matter how much you like a pairing or actors or whatever. It's JUST A JOB. Ok. A very very public one, but still just a job. Wook Seok in real life is not Seon Jae. You're not gonna get the perfect lover boy once you visit him at his house and he also might not be as smiley behind the screen either.
Even though I did not enjoy the show as much, Ahn Minhyuk from Strong Girl Bongsoon is the OG loser in love
AH yeah... I forgot the domestic violence as well. Also rubbed me the wrong way. I mean the show was cute but then I really hated that they played for laugh something that would never have been accepted if it was a man doing it. Domestic violence is not okay, doesn't matter which gender does it on the other. I would even argue that it's worse here given it's South Korea... a very patriarchal society... Imagine being a man and complaining about that to the police. They would just laugh to your face.
Even though I did not enjoy the show as much, Ahn Minhyuk from Strong Girl Bongsoon is the OG loser in love
Not a big fan of Strong Girl Bongsoon personally. The gay jokes really rubbed me the wrong way. It spoiled the whole show for me. I doubt that brand of humor would go well now on Korean TV, they would get too much backlash and rightfully so.
Ok wasn't too impressed by the first episode, but just finished episode 4 and it's really starting to look good. We'll see how the brothers to lovers dynamic plays out. I'm really not a huge fan of that trope but anything can work if done well. After all I ended up rooting for the main characters of Angel Sanctuary, and you can't do more taboo than that. I've got an older brother and a younger brother myself so that type of story just... erg... But it was really well done, so if it's organic and well written, this might be a winner in my book.
Also. Taiwanese BL. Definitely the best. They don't produce as many BLs as Thaïland, and it's not always with high production value... such as here, but they truly ring different. Japanese BL are a hit or miss... but when they're a they're a hit they're a HIT. South Korean BLs... so far pretty meh albeit for a few exceptions... Thaï BL. Lots of garbage, too much fanservice. Some very very very hidden gems.
So, though I don't watch Taiwanese BLs that often... Honestly, for me, in Asia, they're the best. I needed a change of scenery after Lovely Runner but I just couldn't watch another straight romance because comparison would be inevitable... ( I watched the first episode of Queen of Tears and couldn't get into it, so this is definitely not the right moment to watch any straight romance for me). So back to some BLs until I get over my Lovely Runner withdrawal syndrome... and I feel this one, might be a good choice.
Withdrawal symptoms >_< Started three shows, already dropped one, definitely not the right time to watch it... Sticking with the two others but honestly they feel flavorless.
Can't believe I watched one hour of fanservice without it bothering me one second. This is truly a first. So glad we got it though. We deserved it after 8 weeks of torture.
I was going to rewatch it all over again... But I think I'm going to wait a couple of months. I want to try rewatching it as if it's the first time again.
Lovely Runner, you were indeed lovely from start to finish, I'll be rewatching you in years to come and you'll go down to my "ultimate favorites"' list.
I watched the last episode with a very silly smile on my face the whole time and God do I need this, given what's currently happening in the world. For a couple of hours, I lived through the best fantasy romance of the year. Seon Jae you don't exist in real life, but it's okay. I can always see you when I want to forget my daily worries.
Thanks to the writer, casts and crew who made this little gem for us AND thanks for being such an underdog! It was such a wonderful show... with the added bonus of absolutely NO ridiculous PPL.
... I think we all rate depending on our own criteriums。Personally, I rated both the same.Marry my husband was…
I think it's more a matter of how attached you are to the characters and personally think the writing failed in that area. You can have the best plot in the universe, if you don't know how to make your viewers care for the main characters, it's never going to work.
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Maybe I don't know. Lovely Runner was a 10/10 for me, I loved the characters and story so much I didn't care one bit for the ridiculously huge plot holes and though it wasn't a drama centered around music, the music was just chef's kiss which is unfortunately not the case here. I don't like their singing nor the OST so far... but at least the OST is listenable though not to my taste.
Anyway my opinion is... I understand it didn't become a cult phenomenon like Lovely Runner did... For a very simple reason... It takes too much time to really take off. Episode 4 is finally starting to get the story's gears turning, and it's starting to finally look like a youthful, cute and fun show... But it took 3 episodes to get there... when Lovely Runner grabbed most people at the end of the 2nd episode so first week ( I was personally sold after episode 1 but I know it was not the case for most people). I'm finally starting to enjoy myself... but I feel It took too much time to get there. I hope I won't feel like you once I reach episode 11.
Anyway, bottom line, if you were watching as it aired, you would have had to tune it for the 2nd week to see the story gearing up... and let's be honest, with the amount of shows available, most people are just not that patient unless there's some strong buzz behind.
But I'm still going to say it anyway.
I have just started this drama... Currently on episode 3... I'm not sold yet. It's not a bad watch... But I'm having trouble getting into the story... But that's not my main issue.
For a drama that seems to be centered around music (so far), the music truly makes my ears bleed. The vocals are terrible. I just want to mute the sound every time I hear somebody singing. It's just that bad. Hopefully it gets better... Or better yet, they stop singing in following episodes otherwise it's going to be a very very painful watch on my part.
This is one of these rare instances were I struggled to rate.
It checked all the boxes for me and then some but the excessive violence really spoiled it.
Basically, violence in comics has to be tuned down when made in live action otherwise it turns very gory... And my God, does this drama feature quite a lot of it. It's particularly obvious at the beginning of the series... by the end I got numb to it... which I don't think is a compliment. I don't particularly enjoy getting used to this type of things.
Anyway... If it wasn't for it, It would have been a 9.5 or 10...
But because of it I hesitated to give an 8.5 or 9.
If I rated it solely on my enjoyment scale... I'd say an 8. But honestly, everything is top notch from the story, to the acting, to the music... It's complicated. I really really really wanted to like it as much as everybody else... Especially since this casting is just COMPLETELY INSANE. But I just can't get over the violence especially since the story is so well crafted, why oh WHY did they have to make it so gory? There are tons of great action packed K-Dramas that don't go that route and are just stellar so WHY????
Anyway... Given all these factors... I would rate it 8.75
But since you can't give that ratings on mydramalist, It was a matter of rating it up or down...
But Gotta be honest with myself. It's an 8.5
It's already very highly rated here so no impact of the overall MDL ratings but I think if you're like me and hate excessive violence... You might need to reconsider watching this although all the stories are really touching in particular Gang Hoon's father and son story.
HOWEVER.
I could do without all that excessive violence. I avoid US shows like the plague because of it and I know it's frequent in K-movies, but so far K-Dramas have avoided it albeit for a few exceptions ( I'm looking at you Voice...) but seems to me that shows entirely produced by platforms such as Netflix or Disney + are "indulging" in it to "satisfy western audience".
I had to turn my head several time given how gory some scenes turned out to be especially since it didn't add anything to the story except pure shock value. I'm enjoying the story so far... and will wait for the end to reach a final judgment but it's a definitive minus 1 ( though as far as I'm concerned it deserves a minus 3 at least) for that American-style violence that should be kept in the US where apparently good storytelling has been flushed down the toilet in favor of overly violent and sexualized garbage.
I also want to spare my brain cells.
The comment regarding "intense workout" is also ridiculous. If you exercise, you're going to get more muscles and hence put on weight, given muscles are heavier than fat. Having the right balance between what is enough to eat to lose the fat without losing muscle-mass is not that easy to achieve. Let alone in two months. The article focused on his weight-loss... But he could be weighting 75 to 80kg all the while being pretty lean is he put on muscles... But since it's not the look you're going to have as a drug addict, the only conclusion available is... he starved himself and health be damned.
As for Ji Sung... He's an old timer, he probably prepared his role way ahead... he should have also started to lose weight way before instead of doing something so dangerous. But again.. It's South Korea... Looks will always come before health.
Then I saw Not Me.
Still the Best Thai BL for me.
Struggling with this one after two episodes...
Dropping it for now... Will come back to it in a couple of months, maybe I'll be more in the mood. I've seen too many very mediocre Thai series recently and this one smells very bad from the getgo... But it's OffGun... and I truly want to give this show a chance.
Some people liked it but the general consensus seems to be that this is not a good show...
But It's OffGun. So...
Gonna look for another Thaï series for now.
But who cares? We got what we wanted :D
This drama was so perfect that I welcomed every plot holes that came because it satisfied what I was craving.
Logic be damned.
Somebody commented that they were surprised by the number of negative reviews for a show so highly rated. But it's actually fairly simple: Most people loved this show to pieces, so people with a different opinion feel the need to express themselves which they wouldn't have necessarily done if the show wasn't as popular.
And it's perfectly okay. I think it's important for people who didn't like it as much to express themselves. It prevents people from being disappointed or wasting time if the show is not for them. I recently finished Word of Honor... which is very very much loved and gave it a ratings of 4.5. Truly terrible.
Unfortunately I didn't see any negative review before starting it. They exist... But you do need to dig. And these negative reviews had very valid points made... with which I agreed when watching the series. Had I seen these before, I wouldn't have wasted more than 30 hours of my life on that show.
I truly think Hye Yoon and Woo Seok deserves all the praise and love they're currently getting. No arguing about this... Unfortunately nobody deserves this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPSKr5BqWGs
In substance Woo Seok's agency is taking legal action because people have been visiting him at his residence.
Yes... Just like in the drama. He's find himself some real-life stalkers.
I'll never get it.
No matter how much you like a pairing or actors or whatever. It's JUST A JOB. Ok. A very very public one, but still just a job. Wook Seok in real life is not Seon Jae. You're not gonna get the perfect lover boy once you visit him at his house and he also might not be as smiley behind the screen either.
These people are projecting their fantasies on this poor dude and they'll also be the first ones to insult him and join an anti-fan café when he doesn't answer their "love" ( a.k.a stalking) in the way they want.
Shame on them.
Also. Taiwanese BL. Definitely the best. They don't produce as many BLs as Thaïland, and it's not always with high production value... such as here, but they truly ring different. Japanese BL are a hit or miss... but when they're a they're a hit they're a HIT. South Korean BLs... so far pretty meh albeit for a few exceptions... Thaï BL. Lots of garbage, too much fanservice. Some very very very hidden gems.
So, though I don't watch Taiwanese BLs that often... Honestly, for me, in Asia, they're the best.
I needed a change of scenery after Lovely Runner but I just couldn't watch another straight romance because comparison would be inevitable... ( I watched the first episode of Queen of Tears and couldn't get into it, so this is definitely not the right moment to watch any straight romance for me). So back to some BLs until I get over my Lovely Runner withdrawal syndrome... and I feel this one, might be a good choice.
Started three shows, already dropped one, definitely not the right time to watch it...
Sticking with the two others but honestly they feel flavorless.
LR what have you done to meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
This is truly a first.
So glad we got it though.
We deserved it after 8 weeks of torture.
I was going to rewatch it all over again... But I think I'm going to wait a couple of months. I want to try rewatching it as if it's the first time again.
Lovely Runner, you were indeed lovely from start to finish, I'll be rewatching you in years to come and you'll go down to my "ultimate favorites"' list.
I watched the last episode with a very silly smile on my face the whole time and God do I need this, given what's currently happening in the world. For a couple of hours, I lived through the best fantasy romance of the year.
Seon Jae you don't exist in real life, but it's okay. I can always see you when I want to forget my daily worries.
Thanks to the writer, casts and crew who made this little gem for us AND thanks for being such an underdog! It was such a wonderful show... with the added bonus of absolutely NO ridiculous PPL.
Seonsol-Ahhhhhhhhhhhh I won't forget yaaaaaaaa!