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Replying to ShortCircuit • Sep 10, 2024
Title No Gain, No Love Spoiler
No don't slow down, you're only a 12 eps drama WTH!Mr. Jang is stealing the show, and I want him on his own spinoff…
I don't want them to be really brothers, and liking each other a whole lot, then having to compete for the scumbag's attention. P*ss off with your conglomerate and let the kids be free to like each other and marry whom they will. What the hell was that with the 3rd degree? He's lucky there was no soup or he'd be drenched in it.
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On No Gain, No Love • Sep 10, 2024
No don't slow down, you're only a 12 eps drama WTH!

Mr. Jang is stealing the show, and I want him on his own spinoff drama right now.

The second pair is moving too slow, the bromance is beautiful (between KJU and BGH).

That trust fall made me flashback immediately to Sean letting go and Black not catching him LOL.
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Replying to ShortCircuit • Sep 9, 2024
Title No Gain, No Love Spoiler
Ah dammit, he really is...Anyway. KJW drinking water turned into Basic Instinct LOL. I felt that. Also, the man…
So, his dad the coward CEO remembered (finally) he has another son who he wants to replace BGH with. BGH really is unlucky in love and in parents too.

Is BGH still carrying her to the hospital, 2 days later, though? :D And wow, he set that fake accident with the TruckofDoomTM's driver?!! Sneaaaaaaky!
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On No Gain, No Love • Sep 9, 2024
Ah dammit, he really is...

Anyway. KJW drinking water turned into Basic Instinct LOL. I felt that.

Also, the man assigned to him: "I am 40, want to see my ID?"
KJW *instinctively*: "YES!"
That man's face: EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!!! :D

I think I'll like that character a lot. Why is it that secretary types in this drama are so efortlessly funny?!
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Replying to ShortCircuit • Sep 9, 2024
Title Black Out Spoiler
They find out everything. He's innocent and the real (surviving) culprits are arrested. Still, because why not,…
He wanted to tell the truth, but his father wouldn't let him - (BE) GeonOh that is. He ran away after (BE) BoYeong fell, so he didn't know what they did to her after. Yeah, he always lived under a shadow afterwards.

In the book it ends with the culprits arrested and (BE) GJW getting a kind of a late-address of everything (the book involves land theft and other things that haven't come up in the drama, or not yet), but nothing from the girls' parents. TBH, in Germany what the father did to (BE) GJW's mother wouldn't be dismissed, and so he's still in prison awaiting trial before it ends. In the drama.... IMHO I think NaGyeom will tell him what the boys did to SBY, and he'll try to do the same to them what he wanted to do to GJW.

As for GJW... I like the drama way better than the novel. He's just as good a character in the novel, but the POVs are split and the detectives are taking up a lot more of the plot, since he's not the actual MC of the series. But in the drama they're focusing on him, and Byun YoHan's acting is making him so much more sympathetic, you can't help but grieve and rage for him.

I really hope they can keep it up to the end and he gets a HE (as partial as it is) with Ha Seol. And that NSC ties all the leads and punishes each and every one of them.

... I wouldn't say no to some fire that burns down the whole village, or at least the culprits' houses, either...
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Replying to ShortCircuit • Sep 9, 2024
Title Black Out Spoiler
He slept at GJW's house one night. That counts LOL (for him not sleeping in his car.)
GJW is his safe haven LOL, he feels secure enough to sleep there :D

Just kidding, I know they're not going anywhere like that with the story, it just seems funny when you think about it like that :D
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Replying to ShortCircuit • Sep 9, 2024
Title Black Out Spoiler
They find out everything. He's innocent and the real (surviving) culprits are arrested. Still, because why not,…
(BE) NaGyeom. She was (still is) madly (as in, insane) in love with (BE) JW (and he IS kind of perfect TBH) but she was tomboyish when younger and he never paid her attention other than considering her a friend and a little sister. She was there for the rape (ick), the boys were drunk, shocked and in a terror about what had happened, and she manipulated them into getting rid of (BE) SBY, despite it being just an accident originally. She was jealous of all girls around (BE) JW, and (BE) BoYeong was too close to him for her liking.

And she was stupid enough to think he'd only get some juvie detention in any case so she didn't tell the truth and then it was too late for him. Stupid bitch. (Yeah I hate her character, did so in the book too).
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Replying to Tsipporah • Sep 9, 2024
Title Black Out
Thank god we are finally getting to see NSC's house in ep 9 I was afraid my guy might actually be living in the…
He slept at GJW's house one night. That counts LOL (for him not sleeping in his car.)
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Replying to ShortCircuit • Sep 9, 2024
Title Black Out Spoiler
They find out everything. He's innocent and the real (surviving) culprits are arrested. Still, because why not,…
In the book (which can change in the drama), it was an accident initially. While she ran away from the two men who raped her, she ran into (book-equivalent) GeonOh, flinched (because she maybe thought he would rape her too), fell and hit her head. She DIDN'T die. But they listened to someone's advice (won't spoil who, unless you ask :D ) to throw her in the sewer (an old oil tank in the book), put her in the trunk of (BE) JeongWoo's car, leaving her blood in there, drove her to the sewer/oil tank then left her there, ALIVE. One of the parents decided to block the tank/sewer lid so they couldn't get her out again when they got remorseful.

But because of the rape, and because (BE) GeonOh was there, his father covered it all up (he's not a police chief in the book, but someone really powerful politically and financially).
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Replying to Tsipporah • Sep 8, 2024
Title Black Out
No but if NSC actually wants to solve the case he should hire a full-time babysitter for GJW coz the moment he…
~the moment he takes his eyes off GJW is in need of a hospital~

GJW really seems to have a death wish LOL. Lucky for him, he's a cat.
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Replying to ShortCircuit • Sep 8, 2024
Title Black Out Spoiler
They find out everything. He's innocent and the real (surviving) culprits are arrested. Still, because why not,…
I don't know, as he's not really taken directly from the novel (there is no equivalent for him, he's more of a composite of two detectives who both survive). Given this is a kdrama and they might want to include more action or dramatic moments... who knows.

But I think he'll be okay.
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Replying to ShortCircuit • Sep 8, 2024
Title Black Out Spoiler
They find out everything. He's innocent and the real (surviving) culprits are arrested. Still, because why not,…
TBH there is no NSC in the novel. NSC is more of a composite of two detectives, one of them a woman. The book is one in the middle of a whole series (I think they only TLed this one to English, though I am not sure) so (book-equivalent) JeongWoo's case is just a case among many for them. For what it's worth, the male detective is more concerned with his deteriorating marriage through the whole book and most of the footwork is done by the female detective, who is in a loving relationship ETA with someone else LOL.

So I guess we could see NSC going back home to his original position, if they want to give him a HE too :D
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Replying to Jean • Sep 8, 2024
Title Black Out Spoiler
can someone please give me spoiler about what will happen jeongu in the end? (according to book)
They find out everything. He's innocent and the real (surviving) culprits are arrested. Still, because why not, when all ends he's back in the hospital with a gunshot wound and (book-equivalent) Ha Seol by his side.

Also, because the author likes to torture this character, he has no family left and all his friends but (book-equivalent) SuOh have betrayed him in the cruelest ways. So it's like a Pyrrhic victory in the end for him.
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Replying to IM YourOnlyOne • Sep 8, 2024
Title Black Out Spoiler
Re: E08 ending…That was the best revenge against the people who are using your own brother; and clearly doesn't…
Nah, I think the section chief is just kissing ass to get ahead, so to speak - he probably thinks it'll get him a promotion or at least set him up in his boss' thanks books, LOL.

I mean, if he also helped put together the case ten years back, he wouldn't want it to become known that they did a quick job just to close the cases and hide the rape of SBY or that there are also circumstantial evidence that are in JeongWoo's favour - things like the gas ticket for example. Or the too-small shoes JeongWoo supposedly was wearing when he was (not) in the barn, or how they convinced him to confess to killing them when he just cannot remember one way or the other. If the chief goes down, so does the section chief - he wants it all to go away now, too.
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Replying to IM YourOnlyOne • Sep 8, 2024
Title Black Out Spoiler
Re: E08 ending…That was the best revenge against the people who are using your own brother; and clearly doesn't…
The chief went along with the cover up because the other two parents told him about what happened in that warehouse and implied GeonOh was there too and participated in what happened to BoYeong. He never really knew what GeonOh actually did, and it was always hanging over him. The evidence was already hidden, and if he had gotten it, he would've destroyed it before checking just in case there was anything to link back to GeonOh.

He tried to protect him the best he could, by sending GeonOh away and doing whatever he could to hasten the trial before JeongWoo became an adult according to law (and get JeongWoo the best lawyer he could, just shut up his conscience).

The other case - NaDeum's - was linked by sheer circumstance, since she was JeongWoo's girlfriend at the time. He just wanted to solve two crimes at once, get his promotion for doing it so fast, save his son, and all he had to pay for it was another family's son's life. It was an easy choice for him - just as it was an easy choice for the other two to just blame JeongWoo for being better than their own sons and find excuses for them...

If I were JeongWoo at this point, I'd go get some gas and a lighter and fire up the whole town.
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Replying to AnastasiaWun • Sep 8, 2024
Title Black Out Spoiler
NSC's Achilles heel? What's that?
TBH I think it's more like Noh SangCheol GETS JeongWoo's frustration with it all, since now he's convinced JW was a victim too, and just can't quite grasp the solid evidence to go ahead and open up the case bypassing the chief. And maybe he pities him a bit too, though the puppy eyes didn't hurt LOL.

It always is frustrating to know you HAVE to do something because it's the right thing to do, and getting shut down by incompetence, corruption or plain lazyness.

And he's a bit sneaky, too, I guess he thinks JeongWoo could get some more info out of ByeongMu if he has a little chance. He already tried MinSu, and got little - but a little part of the reason why. They were both driven insane by jealousy - here's this guy who's from a well-to-do family, smart, good looks, athletic, acting like being a hero for his friends is easy, going to med school, already got a car, all the girls want him... And they're just his hangers-on who have to work really hard for whatever they need, a bit cowardly, not really wanted by the girls they're interested in, well-aware of the difference between them and him. When BoYeong taunted them, they snapped.

And then it was easy to move their own shock and guilt on JeongWoo, because obviously if he wasn't there or wasn't himself to cast such a large shadow over them, they would have NEVER. It's always someone else's fault with this type of people...

Now if JeongWoo got them to tell how BoYeong ended up in the sewer... But not yet.

At least now the chief lost one son, he'll lose his freaking control and finally DO something about the other two. There's nothing that could happen to GeonOh any more, there's no reason to hold back.
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Replying to IntriguedL • Sep 8, 2024
Title Black Out Spoiler
I need youtube edits for no 7
It broke my heart because it was an automated response - he knew the moves and did it without having to think about them. Just imagine living like you never got out of the prison and now everything you will ever do will be shadowed and guided by that.

Like taking off shoes and checking to see if you have anything that can be used as a weapon on you before they lock you up.

And having all that rage pent up inside and still not being able to release it because you know you're the one who's going to get the most hurt.

Though by the way JeongWoo is going around not sleeping and eating and losing nights looking for cowardly friends, I guess not hurting himself isn't that high on his list of priorities.
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Replying to ShaashaS • Sep 7, 2024
Title Black Out Spoiler
How about 2 guy friend of ML? Do the others find out what they did?
They didn't kill her, but she was found dead and moved to the old school's sewer. I leave it to you do decide who gave who the idea and who is the main schemer LOL.
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Replying to TAROIEL • Sep 7, 2024
Title Black Out Spoiler
CNG's out here thinking she’s gonna whisk Jeongwoo off to Seoul, but little does she know, Jeongwoo’s going—with…
Without spoiling it, she's in it, too.

And Ha Seol? What about Ha Seol? She, SangCheol, JeongWoo and SuOh can make another team of musketeers :D
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