ShortCircuit

You're getting really combative for a side comment.

Yes I never lived in Asia, and what does that have to do with the drama?! Does one need a doctorate in Asian Cultures before commenting?! Did I ever claim it is theater-clear representation of REAL life in ASIA?! Why the heck are you trying to be a gatekeeper, nobody's trying to claim anything about Asians.

I gave you the BH example in jest, exactly because it's about teenagers but all the actors were at least some 10 years older than they're ages in the series. Do I really need to use the /s for such a simple joke?!

And yes people DO kiss for 10 seconds and more. It's called being passionate, believe it or not. I guess passion is cultural too, then. Have a nice day.

They don't go around horny and sporting a boner every minute of their life, so they're eunuchs, got it.

Are you a man? Is this how you define being masculine, getting aroused around desirable (to you) women?!

... This is one of the reasons women have to walk around carrying self-defense tools and just go in groups if there's a perceived over-hormonal male presence, dammit. In the Western part of the world AND Asia. And all over the place, actually, if these would be the men around them.

This seems to be the current beauty standard for males in SK, you're going to have a long time suffering in order to find someone as "gritty/manly" as you want. Maybe just stay with movies or Western media in general.

Yes, it's a happy ending (and happy ever after).

Danmei novels usually have HEAs, LOL.

So in the novel, Wang-zai is Sheng Wang's nickname (based on a little boy drawing on milk cartons or something, and also a play on his actual name, and his father is calling him that as a diminutive when he first introduces the other family - Jiang Ou and Jiang Tian. But I didn't really catch it in the drama, I guess we'll maybe hear it later. Or it was there and I missed it, which is also possible.)

Later on, after they're forced to separate, the only one calling Sheng Wang Wang-zai is Jiang Tian. They also got a cat together. The cat went with Jiang Tian when he decided he's the one to leave in order to let Sheng Wang finish school in one place after being dragged along by his father all over the place and never finishing a school year in the same place. And the cat's name? Wangzai :D (it's different than the nickname but sounds basically the same), so all those long years of separation, Jiang Tian slept with Wangzai, fed Wangzai, petted Wangzai, etc... It's a hilarious part of the reunion, because Jiang Tian doesn't really want to tell Sheng Wang the name of the cat, LOL.

Obviously they do it exactly to spite you. Do you feel the heat?

Just can't wait til he calls him Wang-zai for the first time...

Errr.... Did you really never kiss for even 10 secs?! (In drama, IMHO they made it look longer for dramatic effect... but people do kiss for a lot longer than 10 seconds, LOL). And they're not in 4th grade either :D

RE people looking young but obviously adults. Let me tell you about this super-realistic highschool TV series called Beverly Hills 90210 ROFLMAO (I think none of the main cast were younger than 27 or so when it started :D)

1. She's caring for her mother by herself. It's not cheap. She needs the money AND she's worth promoting but the company won't because she's unwed. She's frustrated and found a loop in order to get what she wants and deserves.

2. She doesn't hate her sisters, she rightfully felt abandoned by her parents while growing because they kept taking in fosters and neglecting her. If you don't know how that feels just look up stories from blood siblings when the normal ones are neglected by parents in favour of siblings with health problems, or even families with too many fosters AND natural kids. It's not pretty as in Hallmark movies.

3. She's trying to quit, LOL, what with all the jellies he's been kind of hiding from her. Seriously, smoking is a red flag?! And she's under stress but not allowed a very common de-stressing tool either? hahaha~

Good points: DESPITE feeling neglected as a child, she STILL undertook all expenses and stress for caring for her mother with dementia. DESPITE being overpassed at work because she's unwed, she's not really bitter about it, she's just trying to find ways to go around the obstacles. DESPITE being a neglected child, she's close to her foster-sisters and tries to protect them from the pain and stress of caring for the ill mother.

Like, seriously, do you guys know any actual human beings or are you living in a black&white world only?!

If WWX had given an order, LWJ would've been gone so fast, WWX wouldn't have found him til 9PM (because sleep-time LOL). But not Sheng Wang, he's an obedient sulky drunk :D

If you like the drama, read the novel - Mu Su Li writes ALL her novels with this undertone of steady&slow and a hint of realism (even the xianxia ones, LOL). She has that knack. All the TLs I've read of hers are good, just look them up.

This is no way similar to AH. If you want to know what to expect, expect a better script - because the novel itself is much better, expect slow burn, expect actual character development and real conflict, and expect a realistic plot instead of a fantasy one.

PS I've seen kids 13 years of age sporting a full (curly) beard, not Asian TBH, but still just a kid. Hormones are a thing.

You're right, nobody should be so low as to watch the rapey show. Then again, there's you...

He can follow orders really well when he's drunk, LOL.

According to the novel, there will be a time jump - from teenagers to adults. The drama leaves a space for that jump.

I like the slow burn. The novel is slow burn, the drama is slow burn. This is going to be hell, waiting every week for those two eps.

I like Faith myself but TBH, City Hunter is better as a story/production/overall acting. For Faith I had to go look up the history around the events re-told, and I expected much more of the time-travel than it delivered. But it's a good looking drama, and the OST is memorable (CH's OST is still better LOL).

Boys Over Flowers would've been a good start but that if @OP wanted to check it out some 10 years back at least, LOL, Heirs is a complete waste of time... I couldn't stay with Legend of the Blue Sea and I'd rec' The King ONLY for Woo DoHwan and their bromance, but the actual main plot itself is kind of weak.

So, @OP, start with City Hunter, if you will :D

I'll be one on the Colosseum's stairs: I WANT TO BE ENTERTAINED. I don't care if it's over the top, or impossible, or forbidden by physics, or whatever - if it's entertaining and interesting TO ME, then it's all good.

Of course, that will definitely be (probably) very different from what other people want. And that's okay. I like to challenge myself from time to time.

As for satisfaction - it's very easy to drop whatever is not what I want to watch and I advise everyone else to do the same. If it's not for you, skip it. Time's short and we grow older every day, don't waste your hours just to end up in frustration!

So if they're grooming themselves and not hairy, they're eunuchs according to you. And if they're hairy and don't waste much time on washing or other eunuch-like niceties like that, then they're ~real~ men.

This is absurd. I myself like men who keep themselves clean-shaven and as hairless as possible, thanks, and they probably expect the same of a woman who's looking for love. And I also like men who do grow beards, as long as they groom them well and don't keep bushes around their mouths and throats, and clean up after themselves and are not adverse to some perfume now and then, in the name of being "more male-like". I think the general rule of masculinity has more to do with inside than outside, but that doesn't mean the outside presentation is to be neglected. ESPECIALLY when they're looking for partners, dammit, nobody wants to take on a man-child and teach them basic manners and cleanliness.

Then again, it's anybody's business and not my own what they do to their own bodies. They can laser-remove all their body hair or keep it intact, or tattoo their eyebrows, or botox themselves to immobility, I don't care, as long as it's not my body and required of me for anything. SK just happens to like very well-groomed men (or youth) for their leading men roles, SO WHAT?!

RE: this particular drama: TBH, the ML is not my particular type and he's cute in an idol way, which I expected. Not handsome but beauty is in the eye of the beholder so that's that. But if you've watched even the first episode, he's being shown as very involved with his community, aiding the police, helping people surviving on gathering recycled paper, trying to help where he can help, even strays. So he IS shown to be a man DESPITE the fact he happens to be cute. Him being cute (again, to me he's not handsome, but he IS cute enough) has a part in the plot, as his contract-wife does particularly NOT want a pretty man for a contract-husband, actually.

PS Saying that men who take care of themselves and are pretty on the inside AND the outside is a liberal concept says a lot. FYI, that's not a liberal thing except for the US, and you guys are already way over the centre to the right line on anything society-wise, seen from the outside.

OF COURSE he takes off his glasses and gets a 10000% more handsome look, LOL. Ugly Betty strikes again!

And he's a cat lover too - selling his body and soul so that the cat can have a home for a week. I approve. Also I have cats and more roof they could get under than HaeYoung. And I don't even ask for marriage in return, LOL.

One thing I never expected though was to hearJohnny Weissmuller's Tarzan yell out of the blue, LOL.

ETA The Subway commercial was VERY muted, I almost missed it. That's how you do PPL, Subway, do this every time (so I can miss it every time, LOL).

Based on what you watched and rated high, you're probably going to love this one. It has high drama, action, redemption, is pretty male-centric, there are no overly-screechy romances that have no actual logic as in the usual hetero wuxia/xianxia. there is bromance AND thinly veiled BL (this is based on a danmei novel, so they censored it but it still comes through).

Have a look and decide for yourself (subs on): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ldvydu34Is