According to book and their interviews yuan is the top and Qian is the bottom. But BLs should remove such unnecessary…
Why TF would it be embarassing to be sexual beings, and to whom? But that aside, people are a curious bunch, and fujoshi/fudanshi personalities are a bit like that, wanting to know all about a pair of cute guys getting it on together.
PS Yuan is gong, Qian is shou, there is not even a little hint of another possibility LOL. Except in Qian's dreams.
Other quality Taiwanese bl recs pls !? 🥹 but not stereotypical toxic love/r@pe/non con etc
Not precisely a BL, but feat. gay characters, the movie Marry My Dead Body (with Greg Hsu and Austin Lin.)
And for a drama, again, not BL, but with some very strong (non-sexual) bromance - Oh No! Here Comes Trouble is a winner!
Actual BL Taiwanese dramas - About Youth, We Best Love, Plus & Minus, You Are Mine, Innocent. But don't expect the same depth of characters and plot as in Unknown :D
So guys now that your into analyzing the stories can i know why qian felt conflicted about his feelings like when…
Because he was afraid.
He was afraid that admitting his own feelings for Yuan are not fatherly/brotherly would mean he must've had an interest in Yuan's being that was somewhat more selfish (as in, he was always somewhat infatuated with Yuan, and that WOULD colour every interaction they ever had). He was afraid that optics would completely change his relationship with basically everyone (because his altruism would've been motivated by his not-so-pure love for Yuan, and then who is he - Qian - after all?) And then, he was afraid that Yuan MUST've been somehow influenced by that, if it was true (feeling grateful and deciding to pick Qian out of gratitude, after all).
I can see where he's coming from - he couldn't be sure what's motivating Yuan's love for him (because it could be a part of a misplaced feeling of gratitude to the man who raised him), and even if the love was totally unrelated... his own feelings are a bit blurry about that. After all, closeness brings deeper feelings than just having met somehow and never having lived together. He can't know if Yuan is not somehow settling for him for the wrong reasons. And he does want Yuan to be happy, so he - Yuan - should keep all options open. (Yes, Qian seems to be a bit stupid about love).
And the Russian roulette is what scared him the most - because 1. Yuan is offering to sacrifice himself FOR Qian's life which means that Yuan might die and also, Yuan might die FOR Qian, which is even worse, and 2. If Yuan died (for any/all reasons) it means Qian might never get to have him again, in any manner (as a brother, lover, or just as a friend). And Qian is not ready for that. It forced him to face his feelings and make a decision.
Then the whole blood clot thing happened and even THAT momentous decision got swept away and became settled history, LOL. Because life... finds a way :D
Just to clarify, regardless of outside pressure, the choice was his. My heart aches for his family and friends,…
Depression and continuous stress are not conducive to mental health and clarity. Even if he did make the choice, his mind was not in the right place to make a sound choice, and that's all on those who hounded him in the "press" and in the social media. This man did not have to die to satisfy the mob, but he did, because they took away his dignity and self-esteem and sense of worth, and he was never going to get them back, even if proven innocent. And for what? In the end, it's just because they could, and were allowed to drag him through the mud for the sake of a cheap thrill for a few days or weeks. It is disheartening.
I do NOT approve of the slightly less crazy gangster for our handsome Dr. Lin, go away, shoo! He quit smoking,…
Nah, seriously, no gong is ever THAT scared (maybe MookYul is afraid of Ewon's reactions when Ewon gets stone-cold-mad, but he's an exception* LOL).
Qian was always more of a mother rather than a father to the both of them, IMHO, and his personality really goes all soft whenever Yuan is around (just compare it to his reactions towards San Pang or Lili, LOL). He's the shou, no doubt about it. Though now I wonder if Priest actually tries to keep us guessing and having them reversible, LOL. She usually doesn't really get in sexy times for her heroes in the main text, there's just something in the extras, if anything.
I do NOT approve of the slightly less crazy gangster for our handsome Dr. Lin, go away, shoo! He quit smoking,…
I mean, San Pang's fearing Qian's reactions, and nothing he says can convince Qian to go to the hospital, but the second he mentions telling Yuan... Qian's immediately changing his mind, LOL.
He's totally whipped and doesn't even know it :D And no gong is so submissive, LOL.
Might not be for everybody, though. I watched about half of the first episode and couldn't go on - there's basically slapstick comedy (seriously, falling in manure?) that's very possibly similar to the original 18-years stretch of the original (omg... dramas were long in those times) and not that interesting an intro "case".
It will probably develop the characters in the future eps and there'll be something more of modern plot (hopefully) but for me, the only thing that WAS interesting was the long scene of the old grandpa (the actor who played the original character, if I'm not wrong) - who did feel pretty authentic. The rest... not so much.
I might look again after it's done airing, but so far, I am not hooked at all.
A wise philosopher once said - "Don't be afraid of the cracks, that's how the light gets in."Seriously, Priest…
I do NOT approve of the slightly less crazy gangster for our handsome Dr. Lin, go away, shoo! He quit smoking, he doesn't need you around anyway, let him find his own romance.
The staggered pregnancy announcement was hilarious, LOL. I knew he'd go for San Pang's throat the second he promised he won't :D
That baby sure doesn't look like either of her presumptive parents, LOL. But we'll allow it anyway. While Qian was telling Lili what it would be to become a parent, I was hearing her reply silently - what about it, you're going to raise this baby too, LOL. Let's hope they don't dump her with her uncles all the time hahaha~
And one of the best scenes of the later eps - Yuan ordering everybody around at the company in order to free up Qian from most of his duties, and Qian sitting there all proud like, "yeah that's my man, fighting my wars for me." And the office worker who immediately spilled the secret, LOL, after promising she'd keep it. I'd've been the one who stuck by Qian's side in order to figure out who's top and bottom... then again, it's pretty clear who's bossing whom around :D
So the first thing a rookie actor needs to star in a BL drama... is to go look for someone to rape them?!! WTF…
You're going at me full throttle when I'm not even trying to tell you not to watch this or anything. That's why I'm using the spoiler tag. You could also do that, since you're ranting about it while having not even actually understood what I'm trying to say.
I myself am going to give it another episode before deciding, after all, for an uninspired opening trope they might do way better later on.
Also, for your judgement: what the hell are you on about?! Sex police?! Sex-phobic church lady?! Are you off your rocker or something? What gives you the right to make such wild implications about a total stranger?! (And you're way, WAY off in all your assumptions too, I find it absolutely hilarious at this moment.)
Thanks for reminding ME that YOUR kind also "roams" these pages. Please grow up or something (not that I care, TBH). You do sound like a combative, maybe a little unhinged person, so don't mind me while I'm using the block button. Have a nice (and happier) life.
So the first thing a rookie actor needs to star in a BL drama... is to go look for someone to rape them?!! WTF…
I know the trope. It's better left back in the 20th century.
It is rape when he has no sexual experience (not even of the straight kind) and his whole idea is to let some stranger f*ck him because he wants to "learn" how to be gay. It's not like any stranger would just stop if he wanted them to, when inevitably he would want them to - because it can freaking hurt a lot for a virgin and he'd definitely change his mind in the act. Partners who love each other do it, particularly in the beginning, when the receiving partner needs adjustment time. Given Shirasaki has NO idea (not even from porn) what to expect... it's way worse than that.
In the first place, sexuality doesn't work like that, and it's a terrible message to send any teen or confused or curious young adult. You don't "get it" by having sex. There are a billion other measures he could take in order to learn about it. And even with a virgin, I 100% doubt he doesn't know how his own dick works. We've all been teenagers. It's not like he's never had to wash his sheets again when they were washed the previous day or something.
In the end, anyway, all sex scenes in dramas or movies are just pretend sex, there's no actual intercourse (with the exception of porn, obviously), so why would he need to actually have sex in order to feel how his character felt?! It's not like the whole drama would be porn, they even said it's a popular BL manga. It's not like they're making a drama based on a Motoni Modoru manga, WTH!
He's not that desperate in the manga - Hayama gets drunk and rapes him in the first night of the casting, with no artistic interest excuse. Here the script gives him a saving line, having Shirasaki actively try to get laid. It's a bit better than the manga, because of this reason, but still a pretty poorly reasoned and planned plot device.
TBH, seeing all these comments saying how interesting and new this is makes me more convinced I could spend my time watching other dramas. I've read my share of rape-to-lovers yaoi manga but I've long since grown past. I sure do not want to see it in drama form AND getting praised for novelty.
Ah well, sorry for the wall of text. Everyone likes what they like and there's no helping it.
So the first thing a rookie actor needs to star in a BL drama... is to go look for someone to rape them?!! WTF…
If it was a girl instead, would that be okay then? Even if they didn't have the slightest idea what they were doing? Letting a total stranger take their virginity (because of a drama role?!) to the declared purpose of getting experience in ROMANCE?
Everybody and their dog too, knows about who Tanaka is interested in, while Natsukawa goes "no no no no no no no NO!" LOL. Natsukawa is cute :D
This might be the first uke to try out the whole "let's ask our bodies for some sincerity" method of finding out if the seme really is in love with them LOL.
So the first thing a rookie actor needs to star in a BL drama... is to go look for someone to rape them?!! WTF is that kind of message?! And yes, technically he's going to look for someone just to ~experience~ what gay sex is like - but we're in the freaking 21st century, go the freak find some porn movie, if you're that curious, don't just jump into one night stands when you have no idea what actual romance is like! Nobody just ups and goes to deliver himself to some stranger to "experience" something like that. Is the manga this is based on really like that?!
How the freak do they choose which yaoi manga to make a drama of?!
What was intriguing was that it looked - at first - to involve some of the struggle of a rookie actor trying way too hard to land a role. But then it moved completely off tangent, and his dedication is already feeling like he's completely mental - still annoyed by the whole set-up, TBH. People never talk like that in real life. The characters feel kind of robotic. The @!$#@$$!!!!!!
And before someone comes to lecture me on the does and doesnots of yaoi-to-BL-dorama undergoings - I freaking grew up with Viewfinder and Haru wo Daiteita, and I freaking loved them, too! So the kind of hard setups and triggers of yaoi manga are not secrets for me. But this one started... not too great for me.
I know both leads have some acting experience, but I don't really feel their chemistry yet. Hayama looks too old and worn out already (and obviously he's always noticed Shirasaki, bla bla bla), and Shirasaki is way too... green and intense. The green actor part was done perfectly. The idiotic dialogue and even more idiotic ideas... they're ruining the beginning of this drama for me.
I might give it another episode, but if it goes like this... I'll skip this one. There are plenty of good BL dramas out there already, so something better will sure soon come along.
Edit: OMFG the manga starts even WORSE!! I can't believe the drama actually tried to change it up a bit in order to save some redemption traits for the ML, but what in the actual f*ck!!
Here's hoping they make a good drama :D
PS Yuan is gong, Qian is shou, there is not even a little hint of another possibility LOL. Except in Qian's dreams.
And for a drama, again, not BL, but with some very strong (non-sexual) bromance - Oh No! Here Comes Trouble is a winner!
Actual BL Taiwanese dramas - About Youth, We Best Love, Plus & Minus, You Are Mine, Innocent. But don't expect the same depth of characters and plot as in Unknown :D
He was afraid that admitting his own feelings for Yuan are not fatherly/brotherly would mean he must've had an interest in Yuan's being that was somewhat more selfish (as in, he was always somewhat infatuated with Yuan, and that WOULD colour every interaction they ever had). He was afraid that optics would completely change his relationship with basically everyone (because his altruism would've been motivated by his not-so-pure love for Yuan, and then who is he - Qian - after all?) And then, he was afraid that Yuan MUST've been somehow influenced by that, if it was true (feeling grateful and deciding to pick Qian out of gratitude, after all).
I can see where he's coming from - he couldn't be sure what's motivating Yuan's love for him (because it could be a part of a misplaced feeling of gratitude to the man who raised him), and even if the love was totally unrelated... his own feelings are a bit blurry about that. After all, closeness brings deeper feelings than just having met somehow and never having lived together. He can't know if Yuan is not somehow settling for him for the wrong reasons. And he does want Yuan to be happy, so he - Yuan - should keep all options open. (Yes, Qian seems to be a bit stupid about love).
And the Russian roulette is what scared him the most - because 1. Yuan is offering to sacrifice himself FOR Qian's life which means that Yuan might die and also, Yuan might die FOR Qian, which is even worse, and 2. If Yuan died (for any/all reasons) it means Qian might never get to have him again, in any manner (as a brother, lover, or just as a friend). And Qian is not ready for that. It forced him to face his feelings and make a decision.
Then the whole blood clot thing happened and even THAT momentous decision got swept away and became settled history, LOL. Because life... finds a way :D
Qian was always more of a mother rather than a father to the both of them, IMHO, and his personality really goes all soft whenever Yuan is around (just compare it to his reactions towards San Pang or Lili, LOL). He's the shou, no doubt about it. Though now I wonder if Priest actually tries to keep us guessing and having them reversible, LOL. She usually doesn't really get in sexy times for her heroes in the main text, there's just something in the extras, if anything.
*they're from Totally Captivated, a manhwa.
He's totally whipped and doesn't even know it :D And no gong is so submissive, LOL.
It will probably develop the characters in the future eps and there'll be something more of modern plot (hopefully) but for me, the only thing that WAS interesting was the long scene of the old grandpa (the actor who played the original character, if I'm not wrong) - who did feel pretty authentic. The rest... not so much.
I might look again after it's done airing, but so far, I am not hooked at all.
The staggered pregnancy announcement was hilarious, LOL. I knew he'd go for San Pang's throat the second he promised he won't :D
That baby sure doesn't look like either of her presumptive parents, LOL. But we'll allow it anyway. While Qian was telling Lili what it would be to become a parent, I was hearing her reply silently - what about it, you're going to raise this baby too, LOL. Let's hope they don't dump her with her uncles all the time hahaha~
And one of the best scenes of the later eps - Yuan ordering everybody around at the company in order to free up Qian from most of his duties, and Qian sitting there all proud like, "yeah that's my man, fighting my wars for me." And the office worker who immediately spilled the secret, LOL, after promising she'd keep it. I'd've been the one who stuck by Qian's side in order to figure out who's top and bottom... then again, it's pretty clear who's bossing whom around :D
Seriously, Priest must like her gongs way better than her shous, they always have the best lines.
Also, let's applaud the little lamb trying hard to roar like a tiger, LOL.
(The title and presentation of the MC sound a bit like the French Connection movie set-up, LOL. I wonder if they wanted it that way.)
I myself am going to give it another episode before deciding, after all, for an uninspired opening trope they might do way better later on.
Also, for your judgement: what the hell are you on about?! Sex police?! Sex-phobic church lady?! Are you off your rocker or something? What gives you the right to make such wild implications about a total stranger?! (And you're way, WAY off in all your assumptions too, I find it absolutely hilarious at this moment.)
Thanks for reminding ME that YOUR kind also "roams" these pages. Please grow up or something (not that I care, TBH). You do sound like a combative, maybe a little unhinged person, so don't mind me while I'm using the block button. Have a nice (and happier) life.
It is rape when he has no sexual experience (not even of the straight kind) and his whole idea is to let some stranger f*ck him because he wants to "learn" how to be gay. It's not like any stranger would just stop if he wanted them to, when inevitably he would want them to - because it can freaking hurt a lot for a virgin and he'd definitely change his mind in the act. Partners who love each other do it, particularly in the beginning, when the receiving partner needs adjustment time. Given Shirasaki has NO idea (not even from porn) what to expect... it's way worse than that.
In the first place, sexuality doesn't work like that, and it's a terrible message to send any teen or confused or curious young adult. You don't "get it" by having sex. There are a billion other measures he could take in order to learn about it. And even with a virgin, I 100% doubt he doesn't know how his own dick works. We've all been teenagers. It's not like he's never had to wash his sheets again when they were washed the previous day or something.
In the end, anyway, all sex scenes in dramas or movies are just pretend sex, there's no actual intercourse (with the exception of porn, obviously), so why would he need to actually have sex in order to feel how his character felt?! It's not like the whole drama would be porn, they even said it's a popular BL manga. It's not like they're making a drama based on a Motoni Modoru manga, WTH!
He's not that desperate in the manga - Hayama gets drunk and rapes him in the first night of the casting, with no artistic interest excuse. Here the script gives him a saving line, having Shirasaki actively try to get laid. It's a bit better than the manga, because of this reason, but still a pretty poorly reasoned and planned plot device.
TBH, seeing all these comments saying how interesting and new this is makes me more convinced I could spend my time watching other dramas. I've read my share of rape-to-lovers yaoi manga but I've long since grown past. I sure do not want to see it in drama form AND getting praised for novelty.
Ah well, sorry for the wall of text. Everyone likes what they like and there's no helping it.
What the freak is it, then? Pure love?!
This might be the first uke to try out the whole "let's ask our bodies for some sincerity" method of finding out if the seme really is in love with them LOL.
How the freak do they choose which yaoi manga to make a drama of?!
What was intriguing was that it looked - at first - to involve some of the struggle of a rookie actor trying way too hard to land a role. But then it moved completely off tangent, and his dedication is already feeling like he's completely mental - still annoyed by the whole set-up, TBH. People never talk like that in real life. The characters feel kind of robotic. The @!$#@$$!!!!!!
And before someone comes to lecture me on the does and doesnots of yaoi-to-BL-dorama undergoings - I freaking grew up with Viewfinder and Haru wo Daiteita, and I freaking loved them, too! So the kind of hard setups and triggers of yaoi manga are not secrets for me. But this one started... not too great for me.
I know both leads have some acting experience, but I don't really feel their chemistry yet. Hayama looks too old and worn out already (and obviously he's always noticed Shirasaki, bla bla bla), and Shirasaki is way too... green and intense. The green actor part was done perfectly. The idiotic dialogue and even more idiotic ideas... they're ruining the beginning of this drama for me.
I might give it another episode, but if it goes like this... I'll skip this one. There are plenty of good BL dramas out there already, so something better will sure soon come along.
Edit: OMFG the manga starts even WORSE!! I can't believe the drama actually tried to change it up a bit in order to save some redemption traits for the ML, but what in the actual f*ck!!