I postponed this forever because of what happened to Miura Haruma (RIP, beautiful soul), but now I'm watching it, I remember the thrill of the original, too.
I just might re-watch the original, too, after this. So far, so good. Knowing the general story is helping a lot, the young prosecutor is a bit overacting IMHO, but MH is perfectly cast for the Japanese version. (The dark and dangerous stalker is more stalkerish in the kdrama version, LOL, but one can't have it all.)
As to the kids... TBH I still love little SooJin more, but little Hana is also sooooo cute!!
ETA LPT don't ever start a drama that you know you'll like at 4 AM on a sleepless night, because then it'll be 8 AM and you're 4 eps in and you STILL haven't slept for the day!
It was pure torture watching some of them, it took me days to watch despite being short in duration. Thank you…
Some dramas get super-inflated ratings, now imagine what if people were forced to watch the worst dramas ever THEN evaluate those that are already overrated. Ratings would explode :D
Also, OMG, did Amasawa basically call Sakuraba a mama-san AND a good boy at the same time?!! I kept waiting for Sakuraba to slap his hand away, but no, I guess we'll have a good doggie... er, boy who cooks for Amasawa everyday LOL.
Wow, two editorials in a row :D IDC, I'll take it :D
I haven't watched any of the dramas you've listed, (though I think I kind of watched - maybe - one episode of that cdrama, too - I have a vague impression the FL is in fact a substitute for the legitimate daughter and sent to the groom in her place, or something). I don't really go on with dramas low-rated UNLESS they weren't low-rated before I started (like The Impossible Heir, LOL). But I've learned to try a first ep and not go on, instead of trying hard and dropping them anyway, so there's that, too.
I've only completed very few of dramas I'd rate under 6, but they usually are better rated in the end that what I'm rating them... (Checking now, 6 dramas finished that I rated under 6, and including those rated 6, there are 12 in total, LOL, out of which half are Thai BLs...) I don't watch short-cdramas, I guess I'd be giving more under 6s a lot, LOL. I DID drop quite a few that are under 5, because I finally learned not to try to make it through if it's not for me.
Would I start a drama that has been low-rated, if it's finished airing? Not a short-format, anyway, and I would, if it's rated by few watchers (because I have no idea how MDL scoring goes, it's up for dramas that are pure trash IMHO and low for some I find really really good, but also my rating and the general ratings also overimpose for a lot of what I watch... so it's complicated.)
Would I finish it if I don't like it? No way. Life's short and then you die.
Episode 2 was definitely much better than the first.1. Goh Jeong Woo is truly pitiful. He was locked up for 10…
It's based on Nele Neuhaus' Snow White Must Die, if they adapt it closely, all the tropes are already set in. The novel is from 2010 or so, police procedurals evolved a lot in 14 years, and even drama tropes, LOL.
But obviously since they're only adapting, they can change whatever - hopefully not the whodunnit OG and the ending from the original - to make it more fitting in SK.
Nice start, I hope they don't change much from the ending. It seems a bit too loose yet, not that tight as I've…
NN made such a web out of the novel's ending, it's hard to remember who killed who and what for, and how the rest of them covered it up. I don't really trust the story set in a small German village to fit perfectly into a small SK village, BUT if they adapt it carefully, it could work really well.
And I really really hope there's some detecting being done in this one, and that the whole love story of the OG detective doesn't get pulled into this, it has no place in it, IMHO.
And hey!!! Kim BoRa! Hello, cutie!! She was pretty good in Like Flowers in Sand, and even when she's lacking all the metal the OG chara should have had, she's still cute :D
I'd managed to miss everything Byun YoHan ever made, and he seems to have been in movies mostly anyway, but he's impressive. I like his acting (though he's a little bit old for the part - he doesn't look quite 28 or so, but then, his chara was in prison and that could have made him older anyway, so it'll pass). I really really hope that if they change some bits from the novel, they make it into a strong bromance or at least strong friendship between him and the detective.
average c-drama: super rich CEO ML and poor secretary FL or super smart, perfect ML and loser FL who can't get…
For costume cdrama, what you WANT to watch is Nirvana in Fire (both seasons, hopefully the third comes soon), Joy of Life, Under the Microscope, Wonderland of Love, Ever Night. No squeaky-voiced girl/woman love interest, I can promise that.
For modern/scifi cdramas - Go Ahead, I Am Nobody, The Youth Memories.
And for Taiwan - definitely Oh No! Here Comes Trouble.
They don't always make squeaky-voiced heroines dramas, LOL. It's just something specific to wuxia/xianxia love stories, usually.
I don’t agree with this statement at all. They’re written, acted, and produced by Koreans. They don’t look…
Unneeded and vulgar sex scenes: A Killer Paradox (for example). I'm pretty sure there are way more, but I also learned to stay away from NF/D+ produced dramas that are supposed to be edgy and the like. (I'd count One Ordinary Day too, but one can argue the sex scene there was kind of needed. So I won't count that one, LOL).
Having 6-8 eps per season was introduced with Arthdal Chronicles. I still remember the extremely off-putting cutting of that one single drama into three parts when it didn't need it, and THEN not even giving it a proper ending. I remember the post-credits storyboards trying to explain what the creators had intended for the drama and didn't have time to put in, or not even an expectation of another (actual) season because it was a pretty costly drama and didn't have the expected success (why would it, since it was basically chopped up?!) I can't make myself start the actual S2 of it, since I know they didn't even involve those storyboards, so they really had to change everything just to give it some closure and maybe recoup something from the first one (even though they changed the ML and other cast, too).
Now half-seasons are the norm and if it's streaming platform-produced you can basically bet there WILL be another season in a few years to complete the story. Maybe. And you can also bet that if there is that following season, it'll be weaker than the first. This is what streaming platforms usually go for - instead of a good story, they're chasing the launch of a franchise. And if it fails, well, no renewal, on to the next try, and it doesn't matter to them the initial story is left unfinished and the watchers are frustrated. It's not new and it's not going to change for the better.
The ones where you know there will probably not be a second season are those with 12-14-16 eps, where it's harder to come up with yet another story to tell after all this time spent on the initial one. And EVEN with the ones that are the usual length or lengthier, it's not a guarantee they get a good wrap-up - just look at how beautiful AoS was in its first part (20 eps of a pretty innovative fantasy story, especially for a kdrama) and how badly they tried to end it (AoS2, 10 eps of lacklustre story but lots of pretty stuff to look at and very heroic action scenes that added nothing to the plot but some fireworks, so to speak).
(Anecdote here) I am European, no, we usually do not like multi-season dramas EXCEPT for police procedurals. And in those cases, well, you get the case of the week and that's it, and it's absolutely normal. But if it's a family drama, or supernatural or whatever, no, multi-seasonal is not the preferred form.
I'm not going to get into tech details, as I seriously don't know how they choose the aspect ratios, LOL, and the only thing I can tell about cinematography is whether I like how it looks or not.
I don't know about American influence on plots - but I CAN tell you that lately it's been going much more style over substance in a lot of dramas, and many of them are foreign-financed. I like style just as much as the other person, and I CAN spend a lot of time watching all the pretty things and listening to the pretty music, but I won't pretend there's anything of substance there other than simple fluff. And I'm getting drama diabetes from the newer ones.
I don't know how many cdramas you've watched, but I can't remember any that has an OP or ED longer than 1.5 minutes each. That's the usual standard. I DO remember the ED credits of Sweet Home S3 that were freaking 8 minutes long. Out of a 46-47 minutes-long ep, 8 minutes of credits is WAY over the top and absolutely abnormal. (And yeah I don't have to watch the credits to the end, but the video length counts them and it gives you a false expectation anyway).
Are they (Great and that woman) going in and out in between them? Is there one reality where they're dead, and the other they keep mending things because they know what would happenn?
QSM felt to me more like Lin Chen (from Nirvana in Fire), and I loved him :D
(Prepare for some mad fangirling LOL)
NiF is the best cdrama ever made, period. It's an alternate history/costume drama, not BL but includes (non-sexual) great bromance, betrayal, redemption, political games, inner court (harem) politics, a life or death battle for the MCs, wuxia (partly anyway) and the very best characters ever written for a drama, IMHO. I still feel I'm not stressing enough how good this drama is, but I don't want to scare you away :D
Lin Chen is a secondary character there and comes in toward the end of the drama, but he's also a top-level doctor, he also picks on his favourite kid to bully (non-love interest, though), he's just one who reacts to rejection by being overly close, LOL. He is arrogant (rightfully so), cute, a lady killer (not literally, but you know what I mean), whip-smart, gets way too involved in the problems of his best friends and carries all their burdens, he gets playful the more he's stressing (by the end of the drama he was out of control), can see beyond anyone's facades, even if they're really good at poker face... He's special. And he's rude to basically almost anyone (even some royalty, LOL). Because he wants to, not because he can - he just doesn't care to be polite to those who don't raise up to his standards.
Could you give some good jdrama recs? I only primarily watch k and c dramas, trying to expand
Sports (and romance): Pride
Detective/police: Hero, Bitter Blood
Mystery/thriller: Bloody Monday
Hurt/healing (disability): Silent
LBGTQ+: Kieta Hatsukoi, Kamisama no Ekohiiki, Cherry Magic
Movies (of the newish kind): Rurouni Kenshin (5 movie series), Your Eyes Tell, His.
ETA: NF drama: House of Ninjas (TBH I think it's not half bad. But it is a bit Westernized, if you've grown up with shounen anime and expect that kind of vibe.)
Did any have to fulfil their military service? That can create a hiccup in their careers.
LSG got married and his wife's family was involved in a scandal, so he has to keep a low profile for a while. It's frowned upon to be on the side of a scammer who left thousands of people in poverty (the father of the bride).
LDW is over-booked, what with ASFK and the drama he's in right now that posptponed the making of the second season of ASFK (that has been promised).
Most of them (the men) are past their military service. It might be that 1. they make enough money from side contracts for promotional products and the like not to be that desperate for a new drama/movie, and/or 2. they want to be picky, particularly because the scripts being available now are quite repetitive and uninspiring. Or they just want to get a good contract, not just ANY contract.
But, Madison, don't get me wrong here - you were born in China from a Korean-American father (and presumably a…
Oh, so in that case repecting elders is not a SK cultural value any more?! My bad :D
Don't worry, you're in the clear, I'm not that old anyway. Don't take everything so personally, though. Sorry if my tone seemed condescending, it really wasn't my intention. A bit of tiredness might be at work too. Anyway, be well.
But, Madison, don't get me wrong here - you were born in China from a Korean-American father (and presumably a…
I feel like we're speaking different languages here despite both of us using English, so further discussion would be a waste of time. Have a nice day :)
we love kdrama for the lack of over sexualization.. i actuually drop dramas with too mcuh sex scenes.. if i wanted…
Except it doesn't look fake (mostly) and it doesn't just happen because everybody needs to see some tits. (Also, TBH, the French never cared about fake prudishness anyway, LOL).
I'll give this one a try instead :D
I just might re-watch the original, too, after this. So far, so good. Knowing the general story is helping a lot, the young prosecutor is a bit overacting IMHO, but MH is perfectly cast for the Japanese version. (The dark and dangerous stalker is more stalkerish in the kdrama version, LOL, but one can't have it all.)
As to the kids... TBH I still love little SooJin more, but little Hana is also sooooo cute!!
ETA LPT don't ever start a drama that you know you'll like at 4 AM on a sleepless night, because then it'll be 8 AM and you're 4 eps in and you STILL haven't slept for the day!
Also, MANY THANKS TO IROZUKU SUBS, you guys rock!
Also, OMG, did Amasawa basically call Sakuraba a mama-san AND a good boy at the same time?!! I kept waiting for Sakuraba to slap his hand away, but no, I guess we'll have a good doggie... er, boy who cooks for Amasawa everyday LOL.
I haven't watched any of the dramas you've listed, (though I think I kind of watched - maybe - one episode of that cdrama, too - I have a vague impression the FL is in fact a substitute for the legitimate daughter and sent to the groom in her place, or something). I don't really go on with dramas low-rated UNLESS they weren't low-rated before I started (like The Impossible Heir, LOL). But I've learned to try a first ep and not go on, instead of trying hard and dropping them anyway, so there's that, too.
I've only completed very few of dramas I'd rate under 6, but they usually are better rated in the end that what I'm rating them... (Checking now, 6 dramas finished that I rated under 6, and including those rated 6, there are 12 in total, LOL, out of which half are Thai BLs...) I don't watch short-cdramas, I guess I'd be giving more under 6s a lot, LOL. I DID drop quite a few that are under 5, because I finally learned not to try to make it through if it's not for me.
Would I start a drama that has been low-rated, if it's finished airing? Not a short-format, anyway, and I would, if it's rated by few watchers (because I have no idea how MDL scoring goes, it's up for dramas that are pure trash IMHO and low for some I find really really good, but also my rating and the general ratings also overimpose for a lot of what I watch... so it's complicated.)
Would I finish it if I don't like it? No way. Life's short and then you die.
But obviously since they're only adapting, they can change whatever - hopefully not the whodunnit OG and the ending from the original - to make it more fitting in SK.
And I really really hope there's some detecting being done in this one, and that the whole love story of the OG detective doesn't get pulled into this, it has no place in it, IMHO.
And hey!!! Kim BoRa! Hello, cutie!! She was pretty good in Like Flowers in Sand, and even when she's lacking all the metal the OG chara should have had, she's still cute :D
I'd managed to miss everything Byun YoHan ever made, and he seems to have been in movies mostly anyway, but he's impressive. I like his acting (though he's a little bit old for the part - he doesn't look quite 28 or so, but then, his chara was in prison and that could have made him older anyway, so it'll pass). I really really hope that if they change some bits from the novel, they make it into a strong bromance or at least strong friendship between him and the detective.
Here's hoping it gets well made :D
For modern/scifi cdramas - Go Ahead, I Am Nobody, The Youth Memories.
And for Taiwan - definitely Oh No! Here Comes Trouble.
They don't always make squeaky-voiced heroines dramas, LOL. It's just something specific to wuxia/xianxia love stories, usually.
Having 6-8 eps per season was introduced with Arthdal Chronicles. I still remember the extremely off-putting cutting of that one single drama into three parts when it didn't need it, and THEN not even giving it a proper ending. I remember the post-credits storyboards trying to explain what the creators had intended for the drama and didn't have time to put in, or not even an expectation of another (actual) season because it was a pretty costly drama and didn't have the expected success (why would it, since it was basically chopped up?!) I can't make myself start the actual S2 of it, since I know they didn't even involve those storyboards, so they really had to change everything just to give it some closure and maybe recoup something from the first one (even though they changed the ML and other cast, too).
Now half-seasons are the norm and if it's streaming platform-produced you can basically bet there WILL be another season in a few years to complete the story. Maybe. And you can also bet that if there is that following season, it'll be weaker than the first. This is what streaming platforms usually go for - instead of a good story, they're chasing the launch of a franchise. And if it fails, well, no renewal, on to the next try, and it doesn't matter to them the initial story is left unfinished and the watchers are frustrated. It's not new and it's not going to change for the better.
The ones where you know there will probably not be a second season are those with 12-14-16 eps, where it's harder to come up with yet another story to tell after all this time spent on the initial one. And EVEN with the ones that are the usual length or lengthier, it's not a guarantee they get a good wrap-up - just look at how beautiful AoS was in its first part (20 eps of a pretty innovative fantasy story, especially for a kdrama) and how badly they tried to end it (AoS2, 10 eps of lacklustre story but lots of pretty stuff to look at and very heroic action scenes that added nothing to the plot but some fireworks, so to speak).
(Anecdote here) I am European, no, we usually do not like multi-season dramas EXCEPT for police procedurals. And in those cases, well, you get the case of the week and that's it, and it's absolutely normal. But if it's a family drama, or supernatural or whatever, no, multi-seasonal is not the preferred form.
I'm not going to get into tech details, as I seriously don't know how they choose the aspect ratios, LOL, and the only thing I can tell about cinematography is whether I like how it looks or not.
I don't know about American influence on plots - but I CAN tell you that lately it's been going much more style over substance in a lot of dramas, and many of them are foreign-financed. I like style just as much as the other person, and I CAN spend a lot of time watching all the pretty things and listening to the pretty music, but I won't pretend there's anything of substance there other than simple fluff. And I'm getting drama diabetes from the newer ones.
I don't know how many cdramas you've watched, but I can't remember any that has an OP or ED longer than 1.5 minutes each. That's the usual standard. I DO remember the ED credits of Sweet Home S3 that were freaking 8 minutes long. Out of a 46-47 minutes-long ep, 8 minutes of credits is WAY over the top and absolutely abnormal. (And yeah I don't have to watch the credits to the end, but the video length counts them and it gives you a false expectation anyway).
It looks like that to me, so far.
NiF is the best cdrama ever made, period. It's an alternate history/costume drama, not BL but includes (non-sexual) great bromance, betrayal, redemption, political games, inner court (harem) politics, a life or death battle for the MCs, wuxia (partly anyway) and the very best characters ever written for a drama, IMHO. I still feel I'm not stressing enough how good this drama is, but I don't want to scare you away :D
Lin Chen is a secondary character there and comes in toward the end of the drama, but he's also a top-level doctor, he also picks on his favourite kid to bully (non-love interest, though), he's just one who reacts to rejection by being overly close, LOL. He is arrogant (rightfully so), cute, a lady killer (not literally, but you know what I mean), whip-smart, gets way too involved in the problems of his best friends and carries all their burdens, he gets playful the more he's stressing (by the end of the drama he was out of control), can see beyond anyone's facades, even if they're really good at poker face... He's special. And he's rude to basically almost anyone (even some royalty, LOL). Because he wants to, not because he can - he just doesn't care to be polite to those who don't raise up to his standards.
(I love him, does it show? :D)
Here's NiF's best trailer, just for a look-see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYSZpTICPzs
Seriously, this is one of the very best dramas I've ever seen and deserves a watch - you might like it :D
Detective/police: Hero, Bitter Blood
Mystery/thriller: Bloody Monday
Hurt/healing (disability): Silent
LBGTQ+: Kieta Hatsukoi, Kamisama no Ekohiiki, Cherry Magic
Movies (of the newish kind): Rurouni Kenshin (5 movie series), Your Eyes Tell, His.
ETA: NF drama: House of Ninjas (TBH I think it's not half bad. But it is a bit Westernized, if you've grown up with shounen anime and expect that kind of vibe.)
LDW is over-booked, what with ASFK and the drama he's in right now that posptponed the making of the second season of ASFK (that has been promised).
Most of them (the men) are past their military service. It might be that 1. they make enough money from side contracts for promotional products and the like not to be that desperate for a new drama/movie, and/or 2. they want to be picky, particularly because the scripts being available now are quite repetitive and uninspiring. Or they just want to get a good contract, not just ANY contract.
Don't worry, you're in the clear, I'm not that old anyway. Don't take everything so personally, though. Sorry if my tone seemed condescending, it really wasn't my intention. A bit of tiredness might be at work too. Anyway, be well.