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Replying to AEROROR2 Apr 26, 2024
Title My Stand-In
I'm still hesitant to add this to my list so let me ask, how was the pilot episode? Is it good or nah?
Very good (good cinematography, good acting, very close to the original novel.) If it keeps up, it'll be a very good adaptation.
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Replying to Tajia Apr 26, 2024
Title My Stand-In Spoiler
Until which ch did the pov change?
Yes, he stays in this body. The other Joe's soul is gone, and the MC Joe's old body is long dead (they find his skeleton a while after the new relationship starts - which actually changes the whole story and makes the ML realise the truth - again.)

I guess it is a second chance/reincarnation story, given to both the stuntman Joe (who was unburied for all this time and is basically a very good guy being given way too many hardships he doesn't deserve) and also for the other Joe, who wanted to take care of his mother even after his death. Isekai sometimes works like this :D
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Replying to Tajia Apr 26, 2024
Title My Stand-In Spoiler
Until which ch did the pov change?
I don't remember exactly, but pretty close to the end (like the last few chapters or something, or so it felt to me). THOUGH you should know that when they meet in Joe's second life at that elevator, Ming already KNEW what happened in the first life and had a very strong reaction to the new Joe's existence because of it. And it's NOT because he fell in love again. I've given huge spoilers from the novel to the other question above, so read at your own risk, if you want to know more. But the drama can always mingle the POVs and make it so that the ML's redemption's arc happens more naturally during the drama.

I don't care, myself, I still don't like him after all this time, LOL, but I like the MC very, very much, and so far, they're doing a great job about the story and production. I have high hopes about this!
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Replying to TamzinMillemni Apr 26, 2024
Title My Stand-In Spoiler
As you’ve read the novel, could you spoil this for me and summarise what happens/what it’s all about?
MANY spoilers ahead (from the novel, we'll have to see how the drama goes, but so far they're 99% following it).

So, Zhou/Joe is a rather well-known name as a stunt double (I'm going to use drama names from now on), and he basically takes Ming (who is a student still) home for a night stand. Ming has a crush on (in-drama) Tong, because he saw a movie where he fell in love with Tong's back profile / silhouette (yes, it's stupid, but he's still a stupid kid). So Ming starts courting Tong with presents and things, because his family is pretty rich, and so Tong never rejects him, but as he's straight, he doesn't actually give hints that he's available. But Joe's back silhouette fit "Tong's" perfectly, so Ming wants to make Joe his pretend lover and make believe he's in a relationship with Tong.

Therefore, Ming just goes with Joe and they start a relationship, where Joe (who is a confident gong, originally), allows Ming to be the gong instead and presumes they are in love with one another. Eventually, he realises his mistake and by that time Tong has already learned that Joe is involved with Ming and starts trying to derail Joe's career. In the end, both in order to escape the toxic love with Ming AND Tong's manoeuvres, Joe goes with a wildcountry documentary team and dies in a land slide (his body unfound for years).

Joe wakes up in another Joe's body, who had tried to commit suicide because he was cheated on by his (male) lover. The other Joe's mom turns out to get ill, and Joe doesn't have all his money any more (he was comfortable before), so when Ming AGAIN proposes they live together in exchange for money to treat mom, he accepts. He even thinks Ming somehow remembered him, as he seems to treat him as the original Joe... and it turns out his back profile still looks like the person Ming originally fell for, so that he's now the double for HIMSELF, LOL. (Because obviously the original person Ming fell for WAS Joe, acting as a stunt double for Tong, LOL).

Thing is... Ming also found out who Joe was before Joe's death and rebirth, but it was too late. So he had a career change and tried hard to live as he should've, from the beginning, and maybe take revenge... and then found "another" Joe again and became a sadistic freak yet again.

It takes a lot of time until the whole thing gets cleared so that everybody who should get revenge, gets it, and who is in love with anyone else, solve those relationships, too. But it ends in a HEA, because danmei :D

The ML was unlikable from beginning to the end, though, and TBH, I LOVED how when Joe discovered the truth behind his original relationship, he cold-turkey cut it off, despite being basically destroyed (he was in love). And in the second life, when he accepts the new relationship, he is much more guarded against Ming.

But oh well, danmei has to have a happy-ending :D If there's things to change from the novel, it should be the personality of the ML. Then again... who knows.

I hope it's not TMI. But going by what I've seen in ep1 - this is very, very well and closely adapted. I approve! :D
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Replying to ShortCircuit Apr 26, 2024
Title My Stand-In Spoiler
It's actually the plot of the novel (and they're following it very well). Warning - spoilers ahead.
(A bit older) Stuntman gets involved with (younger) rich guy type who's actually infatuated with a person that he mixed up with someone else (because he was infatuated with their shoulderblades, I kid you not). Eventually, the stuntman gets a very bitter medicine and breaks the "relationship" up, but accidentally dies. Until he wakes up in someone else's body (someone who tried to commit suicide and was in a coma for years) and he finds himself in the path of the rich guy again - said rich guy having changed careers and become an actor. For some reasons they again become involved, but this time, the reborn lover is very restrained towards the person he had loved, while the ex-lover is pining for someone who died, and is AGAIN very abusive towards the replacement lover he just found.

It is a pretty dogblood story, TBH, and while there's a HEA, you won't like the ML if they keep the story as in the novel. The highlights are the relationships between the stuntman - his name is Zhou in the novel, so even the name they picked for the Thai adaptation fits, LOL) and his "new" mother, and then with his BFF from before rebirth. Even the ML gets somewhat of a redemption arc, but in the novel... he's still unlikable and pretty sadistic towards his fake/replacement lover, in BOTH lifetimes. So I really couldn't like him all that much. But the MC is a cute, soft-hearted, confident type (despite being totally broken by the ML - because he trusted to love him until he got destroyed completely) who is the bestest son and bestest friend ever to anyone who lets him close.

I sure hope they keep "Joe"/Zhou as he was in the novel. Maybe soften Ming a bit and not leave it til the end for the redemption. The first ep is really promising though, high production values, lovely cinematography, the leads can act - yes, I'm in :D
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Replying to Daisuke Apr 26, 2024
Title My Stand-In
really synopsis is unfathomable
It's actually the plot of the novel (and they're following it very well). Warning - spoilers ahead.
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On My Stand-In Apr 26, 2024
Title My Stand-In
Wow, this is a VERY nice surprise. They've been extremely faithful to the novel so far (minus the manner of MC's disappeareance, but the change makes more sense in drama world). The OP song is pretty good (not too happy about the ED, but it might grow on me).

The opening scene - WOW that scenery! When I grow up (that means never, LOL), I might move there and build a house powered by solar energy and be a total hermit in that corner of paradise.

The leads look amazing and I like how they're showing this is not actually the same person/face any more. And hey! Acting skills, hellooo~ :D (Can't WAIT for the mom-not-really-son bonding moments, I LOVED that part of the novel).

I know how the story goes, so in that manner there shouldn't be too many surprises (unless they change more from the novel, but as I've said... they've followed everything in it so far, which I loved). I suppose I'll still hate the ML and the obnoxious "love interest" that he's stupidly mistaken as his actual love interest, LOL, until the POV changes. But so far... they've totally nailed everything. I'm liking this a whole lot.

So... if this can be done for novels like Da Ge and Professional Body-Double, should we expect more like this in the future? Original danmei taken to other countries and adapted to dramas there? All of the modern-times danmei would be easily adaptable in Taiwan and Thailand, if there's interest.... in which case, iQiYi (I haven't forgiven you for not making - yet - a second season for Oh No! Here Comes Trouble!, but...), please take a look at Rebirth of a Movie Star! (And there's a lot more to adapt, just saying :D)
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Replying to ShortCircuit Apr 25, 2024
Title The Untamed Spoiler
This drama (and the animation/donghua, and the manhwa) are all based on the novel. The novel is a danmei xianxia…
...That just means you haven't yet got to the part where (adult) LWJ gets drunk ON PURPOSE and in front of LAN CLAN WITNESSES - just so you know how serious he is about admitting his feelings.

No, the main plotline is the fall and redemption of WWX - and how he needn't have fallen in the first place. There are so many underplots - like the brothers' relationships, by blood or by oath, or how much the clan's business comes between lovers, or what is actual an orthodox cultivation method and what is demonisation, and most of all, how much can you endure and still not break and how much can be forgiven when you've made gruesome mistakes... The Yin Iron is something non-xianxia watchers can catch up easier on, though (since a lot of shounen anime, for example, has that one item everybody's into getting, LOL, I guess the production team wanted something similar to that to just make it a bit easier).

WWX isn't going to change, though, he's always a mischievous agent of chaos. Don't worry, those cute interractions won't stop :D (well, you'll have to wait til the flashback is done, because the second half of it gets really painful and tragic. I still like it the best, though.)
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Replying to ShortCircuit Apr 24, 2024
Title The Untamed Spoiler
This drama (and the animation/donghua, and the manhwa) are all based on the novel. The novel is a danmei xianxia…
Nobody cares much about the Yin Iron, TBH. It's more like a drama plot device - in the novel, WWX just finds the maleficent sword inside the XuanWu monster, just kind of takes it and only when he gets into the Burial Mounds he realises he can use it to survive.

The thing is WAY too powerful for any sane cultivator, so no one actually wants it - basically everyone else but WWX wants to destroy it or contain it. (LWJ tells even WWX repeatedly that using "talismans and tricks" will pervert his qi and his heart, and it has happened before to lesser people, he's not just being annoying for no reason.) If you're not through the long flashback yet, I won't tell you more, but only one other cultivator even tries to make use of it and botches the whole thing. WWX is kind of unique in mastering it.

Also, the freaking Wen spy birds (chicken/vulture/owl LOL) get toast soon enough.

LOL, you wanted MORE of the school days?! I like the whole drama - and love the novel - but my favourite part is the tragedy (confession - I might be a bit sadistic about this LOL). The novel has the flashbacks split into more parts and mixed among the present happenings, so it lessens the impact of the cute schoolboys doing cute schoolboys stuff, but the drama decided to unite them in one long flashback so that the story is easier to understand. If you actually end up liking it (enough) by the time it ends, you might try out the novel. I mean, it IS danmei, but there has to be a starting point LOL.
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Replying to ShortCircuit Apr 24, 2024
Title The Untamed
This drama (and the animation/donghua, and the manhwa) are all based on the novel. The novel is a danmei xianxia…
What, just them? The whole cast looks like they could be models, villains included, LOL. (Or is it just me?!)
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Replying to loopzie Apr 23, 2024
Title The Untamed
i guess its because the director initially wanted to create a bl drama but after reading the guidelines of Chinese…
Err... the director and production teams of such dramas don't work blindly LOL. The censorship rules are set (and can change from time to time) even for straight romances. They had to ADAPT an actual (famous) novel and bring it as close to the original as possible. It's not like they wrote the original story, LOL.

Fear not, there aren't all that many obvious romantic scenes in the novel either, except for the last few chapters. The main story is NOT about that romance first and foremost, and choosing to reduce this to just the romance is not giving it enough credit.
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Replying to loopzie Apr 23, 2024
Title The Untamed Spoiler
so the thing is i have been keeping this drama under my watchlist since like 3 years. i have had no motivation…
This drama (and the animation/donghua, and the manhwa) are all based on the novel. The novel is a danmei xianxia (which means yes it's BL, and yes it involves cultivation and some fantastic elements). The drama, however, is censored, which means there are no ACTUAL and direct BL elements (unless you choose to see them, because they're not really all the way hidden.)

So the question is - do you really see this drama as JUST a BL story? Because the main plot is not the romance. The main plot is a story of sacrifice, redemption, fated soulmates and keeping true to one's self. The novel implies a lot about romantic feelings but even so, the actual BL scenes are pretty few and far apart, until the very end of the novel, and that's one of it's strong points, TBH. The drama lets you choose if you want to see it as BL or just as bromance, and if you want to, you can ignore the source and just watch it for what it shows. You will see NO actual BL scenes in this drama, because - again - China doesn't allow that. So there's that.

To answer your first question - they had to go to the enemy clan because the enemy clan is more powerful than any of the other clans and chose to make a power move by changing some of the rules of the game. Said rules had the Lan Clan teaching wisdom, so the Wen Clan wanted to get a one-up and teach their own ideas to everyone else. The fact the heirs of the clans were made - willing or not - to come to the Wen Clan is showing everyone who the top dog is.

Not every drama is for everyone, though. If you're not really interested in the end (by ep 16-17 the tides will turn, so it might start to interest you once they go past the school and small plots adding details phase), or don't really like xianxia or wuxia or fantasy in general, then don't force yourself. You either like it or want to watch it regardless, or not, it's as simple as that :D

I see you liked very well BFTB and AoL (among other wuxia/xianxia). So maybe it's not the xianxia / fantasy that you don't like, but just the idea of bromance or BL content. If so, why force yourself? :D
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Replying to ShortCircuit Apr 22, 2024
Title Lovely Runner Spoiler
TBH this latest ep I did get very easily distracted by basically anything. It feels like things aren't really…
So she will either move a very small piece of the present to change the future and go back, all progress is lost, then she manages to go back again, moves a very small piece of the present to change the future, goes back and so on and so forth .

I really don't think a cutesy rom-com really needs a serial killer type of subplot. Like, seriously? Couldn't her accident be just a normal accident that sadly happens? And couldn't his future death - if it happens - be just a frustrated someone from his band or his manager and that's it?
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On Lovely Runner Apr 22, 2024
TBH this latest ep I did get very easily distracted by basically anything. It feels like things aren't really moving on at all.
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Replying to ShortCircuit Apr 22, 2024
Title Queen of Tears Spoiler
It uses HaeIn seeing HyunWoo's pain to motivate her to stay alive. I'd say it uses the power of love.
We just got through 14 eps of her losing her memory and being shown how they keep misunderstanding each other (mostly because they don't express themselves the same way, based on their background and respective emotional packages,)

And TBH she's allowed to be afraid of losing herself completely - I mean, our memories and experiences make who we are presently. She's about to lose it all and get ~wiped~.

If it were me, no pleading and/or emotional blackmail from anyone at all would convince me to go through that. I'd rather be dead as myself than get a new chance but never be the old me again. She's basically committing suicide, only she's still breathing. So yeah - let him weep I don't care. That's how I know it's a drama, LOL.

Though probably, drama-like, she won't really forget everything. We'll see.
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Replying to Gabi Apr 22, 2024
Title Queen of Tears Spoiler
"This is show is well written if you only focus on the main relationship" is unfortunately not true. Don't get…
It uses HaeIn seeing HyunWoo's pain to motivate her to stay alive. I'd say it uses the power of love.
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Replying to Unknown Apr 21, 2024
Title Unknown
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Try The Eighth Sense and Love for Love's Sake after this, for more awesome BL.
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Replying to ShortCircuit Apr 21, 2024
Title Queen of Tears Spoiler
We got the truck of doom AND the amnesia plot all at once, LOL, and not even directly related to each other. I…
I kind of wish SooCheol's wife made up her mind already. She's coming, she's staying, what the heck, just pick a side and stick to it!

Going from the preview, I guess her memories aren't totally gone, and might even survive or come back exactly when needed.

Oh well, as long as it's a good ending...
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On Queen of Tears Apr 21, 2024
We got the truck of doom AND the amnesia plot all at once, LOL, and not even directly related to each other. I quite liked that :D

We have about 3 hrs left, and I hope they tie everything up together well... Or else.
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