Ming is not really yet in love with Joe UNTIL he loses him. He did what he did for his beloved Tong. And what…
He blackmails second Joe (actual Joe, but details, LOL) into a sex-dependant relationship in exchange for money to treat Joe's mom deadly illness. (And he does that because second Joe reminds him of first Joe, not because he LIKES second Joe. So Joe remains a stand-in, but this time for his original self.)
So I read comments before watching Ep4 and I thought Ming did something worse in ep4 that's why comments were…
Ming is not really yet in love with Joe UNTIL he loses him. He did what he did for his beloved Tong.
And what he did sums up like this: in one fell swoop he completely destroyed all of Joe's hard-earned reputation as a skilled stuntman and aspiring actor, nobody in the industry would touch him with a pole, which means he now he lost his means of earning a living, with no work coming his way. And he did that not for love of Joe, or even jealousy - he did it so that Tong got his ~revenge~.
Yes, he's supposedly going to be in love with Joe's memory in the future, but it hasn't happened yet.
Out of all abusive scums in danmei, Ming's among the very top LOL, I couldn't like anything much about him even after the redemption arc. If you think he treated Joe somewhat low... just wait to see what he does to the "second" Joe.
I'm getting obssessively pleased with how close this follows the novel. Not one single misstep so far. YES! MORE like this please!! (And next time please pick one of my favourites, LOL).
This shapes up to be the best adaptation of a danmei so far (in terms of staying true to the original, obviously. I still hate Ming's bones).
And hey, some nuanced acting in a Thai BL drama, finally! I quite like that. This and Wandee Goodday are raising up the stakes on Thai BLs this year :D
I want to start this SO much... but I've been burned before with the release schedule skeddadling all over the place. I think I'll wait and binge it.
Major peeve already though - what is it with the totally lacklustre OP song?... :( I get it they tried to make it different, but there's such a disconnection from that haunting OP in the first season to this one that almost sounds out of tune at times. Maybe it'll grow on me, here's hoping...
The ED song is a bit better, what with the really noticeable voice, not quite what I'd expect from a Chinese costume drama. But I liked it.
Was i the only one who had no idea about the cast change?? TTI was expecting xiao zhan and i thought my eyes were…
JoL1 was filmed before XZ skyrocketed into stardom due to TU. But even when he demonstrated he was a good actor, there were so many antis attacking him and his presence in JoL1 that - even IF he wanted to reprise the role - it would've been doomed from the beginning to have him in JoL2. TBH it was disgusting, the whole thing, especially after the 227 incident. I was sad to see he won't be YBY again, but glad the antis won't come out for his blood again, all for fake outrage.
I think he would've taken the role had it been offered, otherwise.
Then again, the producers already set it up what with having his replacement act alongside him in SBMS, LOL, and what a difference that showed... For Wu XingJian's sake (as an actor) I hope he managed to make it a smooth transition with that change, or he'll get totally flamed if he doesn't...
He has a VERY serious point though. It hasn't even been a year since this happened: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-66655572Also,…
People do complain about all things. Their complaints do not always end up in a news story, because they don't sell the newspaper. And TBH the quality of "journalism" has reached appalingly low levels in the past few years. Every time there's a story about anything concerning public systems, there's a lot of shilling going on that in the end tries to induce one fixed idea: no public system is worth anything, no union is good for anything, people are better living in a jungle of their own making, where might is right and whoever doesn't agree must be a dirty commie. You get the drift.
I haven't watched the drama (and probably won't start it after all, given the amount of sheer callousness and lack of any empathy about how fiction influences real life that got posted in the comments in this section - if these are some of the people who are praising the drama, it doesn't need me watching it, too). What the union rep was saying was not that the depictions in the drama can't show a dark side of the school system, but that it encouraged people to edit some scenes and use them to berate and demean teachers. Throughout the world, and definitely in SK too, teachers (and public services servants of any kind, from doctors to firefighters etc) definitely do not need that on top of everything.
Then again, any such discussion in here won't do much to change things over there, as I've already said.
He has a VERY serious point though. It hasn't even been a year since this happened: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-66655572Also,…
Bro, the YT clips demeaning teachers are NOT happening in the mfing drama but in reality. Yeah those doing them and uploading them on social media are unhinged and trying hard to get a rise from anyone they can, but let's not pretend they didn't use the mfing drama itself for their videos.
And by now we all should be terribly aware that there are WAY too many people who can't tell the difference between reality and fiction, are ready to believe any conspiracy theory over a truth that doesn't reinforce their own already formed opinions and also, that there are some really crazy mofos out there ready to actually ACT on those unfunded beliefs.
Also, the freaking unions do NOT have the actual power to change the system, the educational policies (and all other policies, to boot) are made and implemented and funded by the freaking government and parliament (as is), so calling out for unions / teachers to change the very basis of the system is unfair. They have protested throughout the world - not just SK - for fairer work conditions and changes to the system that would benefit everyone, employees and students alike, but what do you know, nobody in actual power wants to do it. Because of profits, political power, and a horse to whip before any election cycle.
But sure, we can blame whoever we want for whatever we want, it's not like anything is going to change in SK from some anons talking it out on the internet.
Also, they had about 100 suicides among teachers in the past five years only, and a lot of those are linked to depression and workplace harassment from parents and students.
So yes, it's not too much for a teachers' union to come forward with a complaint about things that already have consequences in real life, even if they happened in a drama. Or did you miss this part? "They also said, "Following the broadcast, provocative edits of the content with titles like 'Taking down a (school) teacher who speaks rudely' and such have already been uploaded on platforms like YouTube." "
I haven't watched the drama, so I can't say if they actually wanted to comment on things in the educational system or just used it as a ploy in the story, but the union rep has the right to say something about it, if they find it does throw unwarranted shade at people already under a huge amount of stress.
The OP song grew on me so much, the OST improved a lot.
So, we're now into the serious stuff - wow, they did the final scene really well, I got second-hand heartbreak from it, and I KNOW I don't even like Ming, LOL. So I guess we'll see the flashback end in the next ep and on to the present :D
I can't WAIT to see the mother/son moments, I hope they do well with those, they were the highlight of the novel for me :)
I'll wait it out. I have a feeling he'll do a Jeong JinMan in the end. And the OP theme is beautiful, one of the…
As @Levitate14 said, JJM is the ML of A Shop for Killers, one of the best action dramas I've ever watched. Sorry to have spoiled that detail for you, in case you want to watch it...
Regeneration kind of reminds me of Be Reborn, what with the swindlers theme and the atmospheric soundtrack. Also, Jing BoRan - he's mature enough and established enough to pick good dramas with morally gray characters. I'll trust him. The first half ep I watched before deciding to wait it out and binge it was pretty interesting - and the technical details are also very good. I think this one will be a winner.
They are both so freaking cute! Great plays an amazing, confident top, and Inn is way too funny, LOL, he's been awesome in the special too. If the plot helps them, they'll do some magic with this drama. I particularly love how fit Great/Yoyak is, wow, those are some honest abs!
I just hope Thai BL learns sometime soon NOT to use freaking sound effects all the time...
She was in a fire in her childhood and someone (a boy/teen/man) saved her. She has PTSD and goes into shock when…
112 is the catch-all here, LOL, you talk to the operator and tell them what happened and they decide who and how many to send. I think we have 119 too but I'm not sure what for.
*runs to Google* Oh, TIL, in my country 119 is used as a special number for child abuse of any kind.
... Still don't know the uniforms. Though I guess the firefighters going to a case would at least have those fire hazard helmets on and the axes and hoses, right?
She was in a fire in her childhood and someone (a boy/teen/man) saved her. She has PTSD and goes into shock when…
I don't know, we have 112 here. (I thought it was the same number in SK). I guess they'll send any/all they think are needed, LOL, in an emergency, but I definitely don't recognize the uniforms :D
She was in a fire in her childhood and someone (a boy/teen/man) saved her. She has PTSD and goes into shock when…
I guess he managed to save her and THEN decided to become a firefighter (if he really was one, mom/grandma maybe played an innuendo there, LOL). They're not that far apart in age, he would've been a kid himself at the time. Unless he goes back all the way from NOW to THEN, after he (finally) meets her.
I think she's the only one he can actively rescue or the only one whose presence allows him to actually do anything physical in the past. We'll see.
Maybe mom/grandma is right and she's his fated soulmate, LOL.
I have just started ep 2 . Could someone give me spoilers and theories. When the fire alarm is going off in the…
She was in a fire in her childhood and someone (a boy/teen/man) saved her. She has PTSD and goes into shock when there's anything on fire around her.
Watch til the end of the episode. It's not that he CAN'T change the past... It seems he CAN, but only in very specific circumstances. Remember he couldn't even touch anything in the past so far? But he and DaHee touched hands in the mall.
OMG, they have Moon WooJin in this. Yes this is a must-watch. I don't even care if the drama even makes sense. That kid is going to be the best actor of his generation and I want to be there with him when it happens. I just hope they give him a big enough role.
Also... I find the FL quite cute. I think I might have a girl crush on her already.
I am not sold on the superpowers thing (looks like it won't be the focus of the story), but the swindler family…
"Let's report them to the NIS. Or Marvel." That was a ROFLMAO moment :D
There's not much chemistry between the leads (or none apparent yet), but there's still a bit of time. I really want to see the swindlers totally swindle the superpowereds LOL. They (the swindlers) seem like a very interesting and hilarious family. What are the odds the uncle ends up with the ML's sister? I already ship them :D
So... the daughter DOES have a superpower herself. I hope it's not implied she's the cause of the accident, but maybe she can teleport and so wasn't hurt herself. It sure looked like the mom was troubled and aiming to make the accident happen... or at least so it looked to me.
... You tell me if that's a redemption arc...
And what he did sums up like this: in one fell swoop he completely destroyed all of Joe's hard-earned reputation as a skilled stuntman and aspiring actor, nobody in the industry would touch him with a pole, which means he now he lost his means of earning a living, with no work coming his way. And he did that not for love of Joe, or even jealousy - he did it so that Tong got his ~revenge~.
Yes, he's supposedly going to be in love with Joe's memory in the future, but it hasn't happened yet.
Out of all abusive scums in danmei, Ming's among the very top LOL, I couldn't like anything much about him even after the redemption arc. If you think he treated Joe somewhat low... just wait to see what he does to the "second" Joe.
This shapes up to be the best adaptation of a danmei so far (in terms of staying true to the original, obviously. I still hate Ming's bones).
And hey, some nuanced acting in a Thai BL drama, finally! I quite like that. This and Wandee Goodday are raising up the stakes on Thai BLs this year :D
Major peeve already though - what is it with the totally lacklustre OP song?... :( I get it they tried to make it different, but there's such a disconnection from that haunting OP in the first season to this one that almost sounds out of tune at times. Maybe it'll grow on me, here's hoping...
The ED song is a bit better, what with the really noticeable voice, not quite what I'd expect from a Chinese costume drama. But I liked it.
I think he would've taken the role had it been offered, otherwise.
Then again, the producers already set it up what with having his replacement act alongside him in SBMS, LOL, and what a difference that showed... For Wu XingJian's sake (as an actor) I hope he managed to make it a smooth transition with that change, or he'll get totally flamed if he doesn't...
I haven't watched the drama (and probably won't start it after all, given the amount of sheer callousness and lack of any empathy about how fiction influences real life that got posted in the comments in this section - if these are some of the people who are praising the drama, it doesn't need me watching it, too). What the union rep was saying was not that the depictions in the drama can't show a dark side of the school system, but that it encouraged people to edit some scenes and use them to berate and demean teachers. Throughout the world, and definitely in SK too, teachers (and public services servants of any kind, from doctors to firefighters etc) definitely do not need that on top of everything.
Then again, any such discussion in here won't do much to change things over there, as I've already said.
And by now we all should be terribly aware that there are WAY too many people who can't tell the difference between reality and fiction, are ready to believe any conspiracy theory over a truth that doesn't reinforce their own already formed opinions and also, that there are some really crazy mofos out there ready to actually ACT on those unfunded beliefs.
Also, the freaking unions do NOT have the actual power to change the system, the educational policies (and all other policies, to boot) are made and implemented and funded by the freaking government and parliament (as is), so calling out for unions / teachers to change the very basis of the system is unfair. They have protested throughout the world - not just SK - for fairer work conditions and changes to the system that would benefit everyone, employees and students alike, but what do you know, nobody in actual power wants to do it. Because of profits, political power, and a horse to whip before any election cycle.
But sure, we can blame whoever we want for whatever we want, it's not like anything is going to change in SK from some anons talking it out on the internet.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-66655572
Also, they had about 100 suicides among teachers in the past five years only, and a lot of those are linked to depression and workplace harassment from parents and students.
So yes, it's not too much for a teachers' union to come forward with a complaint about things that already have consequences in real life, even if they happened in a drama. Or did you miss this part? "They also said, "Following the broadcast, provocative edits of the content with titles like 'Taking down a (school) teacher who speaks rudely' and such have already been uploaded on platforms like YouTube." "
I haven't watched the drama, so I can't say if they actually wanted to comment on things in the educational system or just used it as a ploy in the story, but the union rep has the right to say something about it, if they find it does throw unwarranted shade at people already under a huge amount of stress.
These are my 2 cents on it.
They're so freaking cute still, I want to carry them both in my pockets :D
PS Also the OP song is so hype :D
So, we're now into the serious stuff - wow, they did the final scene really well, I got second-hand heartbreak from it, and I KNOW I don't even like Ming, LOL. So I guess we'll see the flashback end in the next ep and on to the present :D
I can't WAIT to see the mother/son moments, I hope they do well with those, they were the highlight of the novel for me :)
Regeneration kind of reminds me of Be Reborn, what with the swindlers theme and the atmospheric soundtrack. Also, Jing BoRan - he's mature enough and established enough to pick good dramas with morally gray characters. I'll trust him. The first half ep I watched before deciding to wait it out and binge it was pretty interesting - and the technical details are also very good. I think this one will be a winner.
And the OP theme is beautiful, one of the best I've heard for the past year. This is on my TBW definitely.
I just hope Thai BL learns sometime soon NOT to use freaking sound effects all the time...
*runs to Google* Oh, TIL, in my country 119 is used as a special number for child abuse of any kind.
... Still don't know the uniforms. Though I guess the firefighters going to a case would at least have those fire hazard helmets on and the axes and hoses, right?
I think she's the only one he can actively rescue or the only one whose presence allows him to actually do anything physical in the past. We'll see.
Maybe mom/grandma is right and she's his fated soulmate, LOL.
Watch til the end of the episode. It's not that he CAN'T change the past... It seems he CAN, but only in very specific circumstances. Remember he couldn't even touch anything in the past so far? But he and DaHee touched hands in the mall.
This looks to become pretty good by now.
Also... I find the FL quite cute. I think I might have a girl crush on her already.
There's not much chemistry between the leads (or none apparent yet), but there's still a bit of time. I really want to see the swindlers totally swindle the superpowereds LOL. They (the swindlers) seem like a very interesting and hilarious family. What are the odds the uncle ends up with the ML's sister? I already ship them :D
So... the daughter DOES have a superpower herself. I hope it's not implied she's the cause of the accident, but maybe she can teleport and so wasn't hurt herself. It sure looked like the mom was troubled and aiming to make the accident happen... or at least so it looked to me.