eldiomedes

Well said

That's a weird count you are keeping man, weird shit. Whatever floats your goat I guess. You are lumping all rejections into one single category, while each story has it's own reason and solution. Mental stuff lol. A counter example to you are my glory, is fireworks of my heart where the FL works hard to win the ML because she rejected him early on due to family pressure. Both Yang Yan projects.

But I digress, in Shine of Me, the ML apologizing various times ..was to draw a contrast between the 2 male leads. The other guy doesn't even respond to the FL's apology text for years. When he realized he was led astray by Rong, still didn't apologize to the FL. While the ML did even when it wasn't his fault. Idk what stuff have you been seeing lol. Good for you.

Good for Wang Xing Yue. After terrorizing Bai Lu in One and Only, and losing her to Zang Linghe in Kunning Palace, he has a shot ! If there's romance ofc. Don't mind either if there isn't.

I am getting tired of this. What double standards ? There are many examples in cdrama I could give you where the FL apologized for her wrongdoing.

For your point 1, the FL liked the ML since day one, and the ML realized it much later on, rejecting the FL twice. So, I am glad she made Yu Tu do all the work, she should have done more. As I have said, the ML got lucky that he only had to tag along for a bit and show her his worth. If he had the cajones, he would have told her of the insecurities instead of flat out rejecting her, that too in a cold manner. In both rejections, FL took the initiative and got rejected. I see absolutely no reason to object to see the ML grinding a bit for happiness. bruh...

For point 2, what does rejection have to do with apologizing ? X likes Y, but Y doesn't. Hence, rejection. If Y likes X later on and X didn't give up, should Y apologize for the past rejection ? Absolutely should not. What is there to apologize for ? Unless of course Y rejected because of a superficial reason, specially one as dumb as You are my glory. If X and Y are in a relationship, and Y fucked up for some reason, sure, Y should apologize.

In this drama, neither Lin Yusen nor Ni Xiguang fuck up at any given moment. But catered to some misunderstandings.

But in this drama, the FL did not reject the ML now did she ? Just was angry for a bit. Who cares ? In You are my glory, Yu Tu's reason was fucking dumb to begin with for rejecting her, so he rightfully had to win back her faith for 5 eps. A man rejected a catch like her, twice. I feel like he should have done more lol. he got lucky as Jing Jing was smitten with him, always. You like someone but didn't have the balls to confess at the right time ? Do the extra work.

I am a dude, and I have no issues with that specific scene whatsoever. I do agree that a lot of dramas have them, but not this one. Neither in You are my glory.

At the hospital, he didn't really let go fully but put it in the backburner, and let his feelings for her take charge and not let the past influence his happiness. He totally lets go of it later on.

Later in the series, it will be explored when and how the ML fell for the FL so stay tuned. As for why Zhuang Xu likes the FL, it wasn't deeply explored, but when the FL confessed, he liked her there and then. He just didn't have the balls nor confidence and got influenced by Ye Rong quite easily.

It seems that your main issue is, male leads getting the short end of the drama balance stick. At some dramas I can agree, but not this one, neither in You are my glory. Financial reason was the dumbest reason for him to reject her, his colleague points that out. And rightfully so he had to earn his way in her life. He was also super dumb for rejecting her in school.

I don't get the comparisons. Romance and dating don't really follow a set of rules, otherwise every single drama would be the same. They show a scene, you either relate to it, or you don't. I can. You can't. As simple as that. It's just her getting mad for heaven's sake with a reasonable cause. Not like she killed his cat by accident.

There is no reason for me whatsoever to draw parallels with You are my glory (Though there are some early resemblance between Yu Tu and Zhuang Xu, both Gu Man characters) or Romeo and Juliet or Samson and Delilah or Layla and Majnun.

Zhuang Xu is complex and, a trademark Gu Man character. If you watched You are my glory, Yu Tu goes through something somewhat similar. But he gets over it in that show, thanks to him having wise friends, unlike Zhuang, a mook surrounded by other mooks.

I think during the hospital stay, ML must have realized deep down that either she completely has forgotten the ordeal or, subconsciously, she had no clue. He never really blamed her for his situation but her lack of sympathy is what ML was harboring in the from of some sort of mild unreasonable resentment. Enjoy the cute ski moments. That's the major turning point for the FL.

To me, it was ok for a one time watch because of the sweet and unorthodox moments. But I'd say the premise is too far fetched lol

Nah not really. Love is sweet is more traditional modern cdrama. This one is a bit weird.

Ah. I get it now. Although every point that Zhuang brought up, were shown in the earlier episodes. Like, Rong telling Xiguang that she did not know him that well, which was her idea to test him whether he could resist a nice prospect like Xiguang in favour of her. She overestimated herself thinking, growing up together, that gave her the right to play the feelings of both him and the FL. But for us audience, we should also see his shortsightedness and zero emotional resonance. He also beats himself up for believing Rong over Xiguang back at university regarding the job interview call debacle. Basically when the FL congratulated him on Rong a the wedding, some of his senses opened up. All of that, ended up in a confrontation with Rong. He never even bothered to clear things up with Xiguang believing Rong blindly. The dude didn't even reply to the text Xiguang sent him back at the university.

You are taking words as literal without seeing the context back and forth. When they say those lines, they also add lines before and after to add context. Ma posed as Nie Xiguang and called the ML up for whatever reason, to meet and ML thinking it was Xiguang, crashed his car on the way. So in a sense, for that reason, ML was in an accident. Not that Ma or the FL (in ML's mind) was the direct cause. FL at one point also wonders (shortly after the ski trip) that how silly the ML is, him thinking how heartless I was after the accident and still fell for me.

Again, you see that getting mad moment as something unreasonable, I absolutely don't. It is the exact opposite for me. To the ML, her getting a scare and mad would be a reason to rejoice because he knew at that moment, that she fell for him, cares for him enough to get mad at him for such a reason. He would apologize 100 more times if needed because he is the one pursuing her and seeing the paradigm shift for all the effort he had been raking up, up to that point. He was dumbfounded enough in front of the hospital that he could not explain. Not because he thought, 'hey, tf have I done ?', but, 'Wow, she cares this much?'.

There is no comparison to other drama or story really. Each has it's own unique perspective.

ML does say to pick between them, but he does not know what the history is between them, only that it's toxic from her melancholy. If there were cute moments between the second lead and FL, then you could call it a true triangle and quite possibly she would have ended up with him instead.

From the FL's pov, it made sense. After all, the lack of communication from her first love is what caused the domino effect in the first place so the FL demanding more in that regard, is not unreasonable at all. Sure, the FL was mad. But not crazy mad. No friggin way lol. It was also a pivotal moment in the show, that she totally fell for him at that moment, given that such a thing bothered her so much in the first place. Whether it was right or wrong for her to get mad, that is a matter of opinion. You see it as unreasonable, I don't.

As far as I can recall, the blame was never direct. It was more like, "he can never blablabla because he was going to meet her and she didn't even bother to look him up after that". Because of her in this sense means exactly that. Not that she caused the crash or issues. Do I find it unreasonable ? Sure. Is it too far fetched from reality ? Not really.

When a drama mimics real life, only then we can relate. There are nonsensical stories of course, but mor often than not, they do happen.

Two characters having interest in one person doesn't automatically mean it's a love triangle. The second lead pines, yearns but does not actively pursue. Heck, he never even replies to that one Varsity text for crying out loud lol. It is the FL who is getting over her unrequited love while experiencing true 'true' love from a better person. Also, everything would also NOT be the same removing the sml. Who would you compare the ML to then ? It shows how much of a better deal the FL is getting compared to what she could have ended up in. It also shows the SML not taking his chances, despite having so many opportunities.

FL doesn't get mad like crazy. She just goes quiet and frowns for a bit. It just took one explanation text for her to melt. As for Asian parents metaphor, most of the time it's only parents who have unconditional love for their children. If a parent thinks that his/her kid was in a serious accident and could not reach them, getting a good scare, later whatever noble the cause is for the kid not to respond, would get a beating first then explanation. So the FL being mad is perfectly logical here.

What are you talking about man ? I am relating everything that you have said to real life. What do you mean by "You like to quote real life.... except when it doesnt suit you" ? The FL needed to get over her past threads, heal and the ML needed to fully let go of the grudge that he was holding, how unreasonable it might be. Both fully commit after that. It's not like there is a set of rules that you have to follow for dating.

As for the blame, I only watched with subs. I don't think there was a moment where anyone was directly blamed for the accident. I recall FL's Dad and ML Uncle Sheng Bokai saying something about ML courting the poser FL for monetary reasons, and crashed the car while driving carelessly. As far as I can recall, the "blame" is not having sympathy after the crash.

With so many issues you gave it a 9/10. I gave it a 8.5 lol

Your first point, that is how crushes and infatuations work. No sensible reasons. While you might need one to understand, it just happens a lot, in real life. "Love triangle should be taken out from any drama.", then this story wouldn't make sense. I wouldn't say it was a triangle. There was no push and pull. Just moving on from one side to another.

Your second point, people getting mad at each other when emotions are involved, don't always have to be logical. Made sense to me. An example would be, Asian parents beat their kids' asses when they give their parents a scare, before comforting them. She just acted pissed, where did a demon come from ?!?!

Third point, Waiting for 24 episodes isn't ridiculous at all. Both of them needed to be sure. I mean, from a story point of view, it made sense. Could the show have done with a shorter amount of time ? Perhaps. I don't mind it.

Lats but not least, Also no one ever blamed anyone for any accident. The ML was flabbergasted because the person who wanted to see him did not even bother to show up and see him/or even text words of consolation when it ended his carrier that he cherished. Maybe he was a bit unreasonable but you are watching a drama, not a Neal DeGrasse Tyson science show.

Which second male lead speech are you talking about ? The one where the SML gets drunk at the karaoke ? Made sense to me.

Which parts you thought were cringe ?

Episode 7 onwards, everything changes. As for holding grudges, well, pain can affect people in many ways. It is easy to judge from a distance. ML does say at some point why he did not clear it up early ,,forgot when though. Mid series maybe.

Well I am game if they can make a series without destroying the essence of the first one.