damn 87 episodes... but real life is so damn stressful, and for the sake of the heavenly kingdom, none of the current dramas of the last 5 month have been doing much anything to me.
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Das auf jeden Fall, was die short und Mini Dramas angeht. Da ist die Zensur vermutlich locker, solche Dinge die du dort siehst, kämen bei 45 min prime time Dramen vermutlich nie durch.
I just feel that the brutality of short dramas is increasing every year. This year it’s sadism At the highest…
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die Chinesen scheinen nicht die frontrunner gewesen zu sein, die sexualisierte Gewalt gegen Frauen in TV serien als "geil" und "quoten erhöhend" und "anregend" empfinden. scheint also ob die Türken da die Vorreiter Rolle gespielt haben (wobei , USA mit game of thrones und den ganzen gewalttätigen vegewaltungsszenen sind nun ja, vor 10 Jahren auch nicht ohne gewesen, hat den Quoten weltweit, weder in Amerika, noch in Europa, noch Rest Asien, den Abbruch getan)
damn, Is it worth trying this older drama, just coz I am fangirling Li Yunrui since blossom? is he like, appearing often in the eps? do or could I even like him, without the fantasy wuxia costumes?
damn, i did not expect to see another fellow German here, going to see this Movie in Germany, in the UCIs.LOL.tut…
ähh, but my knowledge and opinion is practically worth zero.
in germany, i have never heard of Ne Zha or creation of gods1 or 2 either (all three movies, incl LoCH, did not make any blip on our german news, not even in the lowliest yellow press) , we are too busy deciding , who our next failure of a democratic government will be, coz here, elections are in two weeks, LOL)
damn, i did not expect to see another fellow German here, going to see this Movie in Germany, in the UCIs.LOL.tut…
I hope you are going to enjoy that movie. from which country are you?
lol, if you dont enjoy it, you could always try Boonie Bears: Future Reborn , there is this strange person in this comment section, who is talking about these Boonie bears (never heard of them in my entire life. must be an US thing?) all the time. i wonder if that person has like , an animal fetish?
I cannot imagine going to some comment section of some entertainment movie, drama or game, and spend my time , trying to convince random strange people on the internet, how bad that respective movie, drama or game is . and that it is an economic or artistic failure.
PS: those that critize the movie , and saying its bad, coz its the same old style of Tsui hark , and the movie has a feeling like his movies 30 or even 40 years ago?
that is actually a valid point: the F/X and special effects are not worse (but also not better) than his films in the 90s, that is true enough.
however, since I already thought, his movies of the 90s are more or less, peak of perfection? it doesn't matter. this is not fantasy wuxia with zhao zhan as an immortal god, with his romantic interests both not looking like etheral fairies and goddesses. if one is going for that look? they are surely going to be disappointed in the audience.
no opera or even television like, terrifyingly , hauntingly beautiful costumes. everyone , and I mean really, like everyone, looks more or less, from normal to ugly. not a single person there, that could pass as an idol, with smooth to perfection skin, and so on
the beggars look like beggers, and all his shifus look like really old people. same goes for the khan and his sons, and everything else. both female actresses are well, good looking, but nothing to swoon over.
the film is hopefully not marketed as a romantic love story. its touching other topics. loyalty. tribal feelings. faith. filial feelings. everything, but not really swoon worthy I WILL DIE FOR YOU, love kind of stuff. more like: I WONT LET THE COUNTRIES, no matter country of my heritage or country of my upbringing., killing each other.
like I said before, zhao zhan fits the role. but any other , halfway decent actor and more or less good looking actor, could have fill that role. (honestly, felix wong wasn't a droolworthy idol 40 years ago, either, neither were his many successors in the HongKong tv industry - that ROLE IS NOT MEANT to be played by a super duper god lookalike actor)
sure enough, huang rong could be looking better, but in the context of this movie, it simply doesn't matter. the feelings, if those that I received, were those that tsui hark , wanted to convey? then he succeeded with me.
i am not running around, and fighting Chinese as well as overseas Chinese alike, who are all bashing this movie, and say its bad. your view, your opinion.
no one should watch and rate movies, based on hearsay of others. either you better shut up, or watch and then decide for yourself. just don't think, its bad, or good, just coz you hear others saying it.
Legends Of The Condor Heroes: The Gallants is so exciting! 146 minutes gone too fast! I had high expectations,…
damn, i did not expect to see another fellow German here, going to see this Movie in Germany, in the UCIs.LOL.
tut mir leid zu hören, dass die Untertitel bei euch kaputt waren. ich war heute im UCI in Düsseldorf, und da war alles gottseidank korrekt, weil ich nämlich KEIN Mandarin kann (auch wenn ich chinesische Vorfahren habe, aber das Chinesisch, dass ich kann, ist Kantonesisch, und das war nur nützlich im Zeitalter, als die Hongkong Filme und Serien die Welt der overseas chinese dominiert hatten).
auf jeden Fall, ich hatte echt niedrige Erwartungen an den Film, obwohl ich seit 40 Jahren Tsui Hark fan bin. aber wie bei alles im C-ent, kann man ja wirklich schlecht die echten von den fake reviews von diesen sog. Water Armies und bezahlten haters or reviewern unterscheiden.
I am just so glad, another German enjoyed the movie! cheers
upfront: I am 46, so the ultimate TV Drama adaption of the Legend of condor heroes that I grew up with, and what will always ; ALWAYS be the ultimate version in my nostalgic memory, will be the TV Hongkong version of 1983 with Barbara Yung, and Felix Wong. nothing will ever beat them. it wouldn't matter to me, if the entire crop of current Chinese female and male Idol and Acting Oscar-winning Super Stars would gather in one series for a new adaptation, nothing would matter. that version of Barbara Yung of Wong Yung will always be my ultimate female version of an ambivalent heroic heroine. Pragmatic, cunning, scheming, intelligent, and protecting those, that matter to her. (not doing the right thing, or because she loved Guo Jing, well, that she did as well, but more than anything.. well, anyway, she is like everything I wanted to be when I was four or five, when I grew up to be an adult woman. on every level, long before I has white US examples such as Scully from X-files, or Xena Warrior Princess)
ok, having that as my history and background with this novel by Louis Cha, there was a miracle: thanks to Sony owning the rights, as well as probably being one of the investors, ITS A MIRACLE, but this movie was shown in some major German Cities in the UCI theaters. Today, me (German Born, of Vietnamese / Chinese ancestry) and about 5 other Chinese people (they all spoke Mandarin, so I assume, they were Mainland Chinese People, coz well, I only speak Cantonese) were sitting in the audience, and could enjoy this.
of course, as many overseas Chinese, of my age, we know Tsui Hark. damn hell, a better tomorrow, once upon a time, the swordman (damn, Swordman 3: the east is red, with brigitte lin and Joey Wong? I am pretty sure, at one point, turned me into a lesbian..lol, they were like woah, erotic and sexy as hell together, who needs MEN, if you could have them?!?!?) he is and was a household name.
and he did delivery with this movie adaptation. i admit, I went it, coz well, Zhao Zhan fangirling since 2016, The Untamed. but even if he had chosen some random actor, just the music of the Original Soundtrack in the trailer? would have left me drooling... the movie I did not feel like 2 and half hour, time did fly , and not once, did I turned on my smartphone to check the time. i had my prejudices of both the female leads, that played Wong Yung as well as the Mongolian Princess, but damn, those posters and promo pics don't do them justice. Of course, this kind of movie, they don't look remotely like the immortal fairies and goddesses from any random c-drama of the last 10 years. but they certainly look good, and I found their acting to be convincing enough. as did Zhao Zhan as Kwok Jing . he just had this right amount of rugged righteous hero (though, one of the many reviewers that I read about, was right. Whoever was the make up artist and painted him ? did a terrible job, the hell, why did you make him so orange? sure he was supposed to gew up in the vast grassland of Mongolia, but lol, even his adopted family there, the "real" mongolians, at times, looked like they did have more fair skin than him.... that's about the only fault I could find) .
i could go on for hours, about all the topics, that this movie evoked in me, but I don't have those hours, sadly, so this more or less, senseless raving has to be sufficient. (emotions, that again, has to do with my background: my family being boat people refugees who decided to leave Vietnam after the war, and were taken in in Germany. If its one true thing, I can see myself in Kwok Jings dilemma: fight the country that helped you and raised you? or be on the side where your family and ancestors came from? in my case, there is hopefully never going to be the chance that Germany and China will go to war. However if China and USA will ever go to war, and if Germany is siding with USA? on whose side would I fight and die for? that's the ultimate question, right? Fatherland Germany, or country of my Chinese Grandfathers, who came from China, to Vietnam, like over a 100 years ago, and married my grandmothers? and then history and war came again, with Vietnam war, and that made my family now living in Germany for over 45 years?
history and fate will hopefully never pose that question for me.. i am not Kwok Jing , my choices would be absolutely different. no matter right or wrong. coz I am not heroic or righteous at all, LOL.
i really liked Wang Yang in joy of life, and with war of faith, he has moved up in my actors, I really want to watch, independently from whether the drama is with other idols or stars. i hope we can see this drama in 2026---?
Can someone please give an unbiased review of the ML (ideally someone who isn’t a fan) as I’ve never connected…
like i cannot like him, but i dont hate him either. He feels just so bland to me, completely average looking guy (honestly? i have male cousins that looks better (my family is half chinese, half vietnamese) . maybe its too early in the eps, and it will get better, but so far, i shelfing this for now, and will go over the other drama that started. the Moonlight something.
the story itsself, and her plight in the beginning? more or less boring. its the usual standard fare for that time (and sometimes still is) around the world: merchant daughter forced to marry into an official aristrocratic household who looks down on her? coz merchant? means low prestige, low esteem , low standing etc
wasnt that the same at the dawn of the industrial age between USA and Europe/UK? New Money families in New York or other US cities, who made their money with being industrialists, who had daugthers, whom they wanted to marry into old royal families with lineage, but no more money (means, poor aristrocratic british families/sons/lords?) so that they could gain prestige. its a trade. Money for Name/Prestige/title.
therefor, the depicted in-laws are fairly standard level hypocrisy for that time, so i dont feel as if they are especially villainous or evil.
thanks a million for your remark, i dl the first eps, and its as you said, really, the ladies as well as the gentlemen, are darn pretty in their costumes, its like a drama of immortals and fairies, except its not in heaven! just two eps, but i like this one more, than the current blockbusters (the one with dylan Wang and the other one with Vin Zhang) ahh its a good thing for me though, more time for real life stuff.
i need my brain to go offline. in the evenings.
maybe this one will do.
do I read this correctly?
so her lover killed her , is that the meaning of "dying at his hands"?
means, I am totally watching this, once its completed!
die Chinesen scheinen nicht die frontrunner gewesen zu sein, die sexualisierte Gewalt gegen Frauen in TV serien als "geil" und "quoten erhöhend" und "anregend" empfinden.
scheint also ob die Türken da die Vorreiter Rolle gespielt haben (wobei , USA mit game of thrones und den ganzen gewalttätigen vegewaltungsszenen sind nun ja, vor 10 Jahren auch nicht ohne gewesen, hat den Quoten weltweit, weder in Amerika, noch in Europa, noch Rest Asien, den Abbruch getan)
https://www.rosalux.de/news/id/42405/sexualisierte-gewalt-in-tuerkischen-fernsehserien
https://www.deutschlandfunk.de/tuerkische-tv-serien-gewalt-gegen-frauen-als-quotenretter-100.html
https://blogs.taz.de/dontwannabetoocool/2020/10/22/sexualisierte-gewalt-in-tuerkischen-fernsehserien/
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/18rLRx7k1Y/
is he like, appearing often in the eps?
do or could I even like him, without the fantasy wuxia costumes?
then i still miss the ep 42.
must wait then!
in ep 41 that i have, he dies in her arms?
however on my usual sites, there is only upload of 41 eps, and I skimmed through the ep 41, the ending seems final?
can someone tell me, is this really 42 eps or 41?
coz spoiler and my question:
in germany, i have never heard of Ne Zha or creation of gods1 or 2 either (all three movies, incl LoCH, did not make any blip on our german news, not even in the lowliest yellow press) , we are too busy deciding , who our next failure of a democratic government will be, coz here, elections are in two weeks, LOL)
lol, if you dont enjoy it, you could always try Boonie Bears: Future Reborn , there is this strange person in this comment section, who is talking about these Boonie bears (never heard of them in my entire life. must be an US thing?) all the time.
i wonder if that person has like , an animal fetish?
I cannot imagine going to some comment section of some entertainment movie, drama or game, and spend my time , trying to convince random strange people on the internet, how bad that respective movie, drama or game is . and that it is an economic or artistic failure.
that is actually a valid point: the F/X and special effects are not worse (but also not better) than his films in the 90s, that is true enough.
however, since I already thought, his movies of the 90s are more or less, peak of perfection?
it doesn't matter.
this is not fantasy wuxia with zhao zhan as an immortal god, with his romantic interests both not looking like etheral fairies and goddesses.
if one is going for that look?
they are surely going to be disappointed in the audience.
no opera or even television like, terrifyingly , hauntingly beautiful costumes.
everyone , and I mean really, like everyone, looks more or less, from normal to ugly.
not a single person there, that could pass as an idol, with smooth to perfection skin, and so on
the beggars look like beggers, and all his shifus look like really old people. same goes for the khan and his sons, and everything else.
both female actresses are well, good looking, but nothing to swoon over.
the film is hopefully not marketed as a romantic love story.
its touching other topics.
loyalty. tribal feelings. faith. filial feelings.
everything, but not really swoon worthy I WILL DIE FOR YOU, love kind of stuff.
more like:
I WONT LET THE COUNTRIES, no matter country of my heritage or country of my upbringing., killing each other.
like I said before, zhao zhan fits the role. but any other , halfway decent actor and more or less good looking actor, could have fill that role. (honestly, felix wong wasn't a droolworthy idol 40 years ago, either, neither were his many successors in the HongKong tv industry - that ROLE IS NOT MEANT to be played by a super duper god lookalike actor)
sure enough, huang rong could be looking better, but in the context of this movie, it simply doesn't matter.
the feelings, if those that I received, were those that tsui hark , wanted to convey?
then he succeeded with me.
i am not running around, and fighting Chinese as well as overseas Chinese alike, who are all bashing this movie, and say its bad.
your view, your opinion.
no one should watch and rate movies, based on hearsay of others.
either you better shut up, or watch and then decide for yourself.
just don't think, its bad, or good, just coz you hear others saying it.
tut mir leid zu hören, dass die Untertitel bei euch kaputt waren.
ich war heute im UCI in Düsseldorf, und da war alles gottseidank korrekt, weil ich nämlich KEIN Mandarin kann (auch wenn ich chinesische Vorfahren habe, aber das Chinesisch, dass ich kann, ist Kantonesisch, und das war nur nützlich im Zeitalter, als die Hongkong Filme und Serien die Welt der overseas chinese dominiert hatten).
auf jeden Fall, ich hatte echt niedrige Erwartungen an den Film, obwohl ich seit 40 Jahren Tsui Hark fan bin.
aber wie bei alles im C-ent, kann man ja wirklich schlecht die echten von den fake reviews von diesen sog. Water Armies und bezahlten haters or reviewern unterscheiden.
I am just so glad, another German enjoyed the movie!
cheers
nothing will ever beat them.
it wouldn't matter to me, if the entire crop of current Chinese female and male Idol and Acting Oscar-winning Super Stars would gather in one series for a new adaptation, nothing would matter.
that version of Barbara Yung of Wong Yung will always be my ultimate female version of an ambivalent heroic heroine. Pragmatic, cunning, scheming, intelligent, and protecting those, that matter to her. (not doing the right thing, or because she loved Guo Jing, well, that she did as well, but more than anything.. well, anyway, she is like everything I wanted to be when I was four or five, when I grew up to be an adult woman. on every level, long before I has white US examples such as Scully from X-files, or Xena Warrior Princess)
ok, having that as my history and background with this novel by Louis Cha, there was a miracle:
thanks to Sony owning the rights, as well as probably being one of the investors, ITS A MIRACLE, but this movie was shown in some major German Cities in the UCI theaters. Today, me (German Born, of Vietnamese / Chinese ancestry) and about 5 other Chinese people (they all spoke Mandarin, so I assume, they were Mainland Chinese People, coz well, I only speak Cantonese) were sitting in the audience, and could enjoy this.
of course, as many overseas Chinese, of my age, we know Tsui Hark. damn hell, a better tomorrow, once upon a time, the swordman (damn, Swordman 3: the east is red, with brigitte lin and Joey Wong? I am pretty sure, at one point, turned me into a lesbian..lol, they were like woah, erotic and sexy as hell together, who needs MEN, if you could have them?!?!?) he is and was a household name.
and he did delivery with this movie adaptation.
i admit, I went it, coz well, Zhao Zhan fangirling since 2016, The Untamed. but even if he had chosen some random actor, just the music of the Original Soundtrack in the trailer? would have left me drooling...
the movie I did not feel like 2 and half hour, time did fly , and not once, did I turned on my smartphone to check the time.
i had my prejudices of both the female leads, that played Wong Yung as well as the Mongolian Princess, but damn, those posters and promo pics don't do them justice. Of course, this kind of movie, they don't look remotely like the immortal fairies and goddesses from any random c-drama of the last 10 years.
but they certainly look good, and I found their acting to be convincing enough. as did Zhao Zhan as Kwok Jing . he just had this right amount of rugged righteous hero (though, one of the many reviewers that I read about, was right. Whoever was the make up artist and painted him ? did a terrible job, the hell, why did you make him so orange? sure he was supposed to gew up in the vast grassland of Mongolia, but lol, even his adopted family there, the "real" mongolians, at times, looked like they did have more fair skin than him.... that's about the only fault I could find) .
i could go on for hours, about all the topics, that this movie evoked in me, but I don't have those hours, sadly, so this more or less, senseless raving has to be sufficient.
(emotions, that again, has to do with my background: my family being boat people refugees who decided to leave Vietnam after the war, and were taken in in Germany. If its one true thing, I can see myself in Kwok Jings dilemma: fight the country that helped you and raised you? or be on the side where your family and ancestors came from? in my case, there is hopefully never going to be the chance that Germany and China will go to war. However if China and USA will ever go to war, and if Germany is siding with USA? on whose side would I fight and die for? that's the ultimate question, right? Fatherland Germany, or country of my Chinese Grandfathers, who came from China, to Vietnam, like over a 100 years ago, and married my grandmothers? and then history and war came again, with Vietnam war, and that made my family now living in Germany for over 45 years?
history and fate will hopefully never pose that question for me..
i am not Kwok Jing , my choices would be absolutely different. no matter right or wrong. coz I am not heroic or righteous at all, LOL.
i hope we can see this drama in 2026---?
maybe its too early in the eps, and it will get better, but so far, i shelfing this for now, and will go over the other drama that started. the Moonlight something.
the story itsself, and her plight in the beginning? more or less boring.
its the usual standard fare for that time (and sometimes still is) around the world:
merchant daughter forced to marry into an official aristrocratic household who looks down on her? coz merchant? means low prestige, low esteem , low standing etc
wasnt that the same at the dawn of the industrial age between USA and Europe/UK?
New Money families in New York or other US cities, who made their money with being industrialists, who had daugthers, whom they wanted to marry into old royal families with lineage, but no more money (means, poor aristrocratic british families/sons/lords?) so that they could gain prestige.
its a trade. Money for Name/Prestige/title.
therefor, the depicted in-laws are fairly standard level hypocrisy for that time, so i dont feel as if they are especially villainous or evil.
will give it a try, once its finished.
or if tomorrow , both c-dramas, who are set to premiere, disappoint, then this will be bumped up.
just two eps, but i like this one more, than the current blockbusters (the one with dylan Wang and the other one with Vin Zhang)
ahh its a good thing for me though, more time for real life stuff.