I saw the otherwise tepid Deal Lover and thought, "Damn, that boy Ohm is hot - I wish he were in a BL couple!" During Lovely Writer, I was bored and wanted to give it up, but Ken kept appearing on my screen and I'm obsessed with him. So to have these be a pair... I needed medication.
Again, a BL character is unable to stray within 50 meters of a basketball court/football field without getting injured. The Thai government should ban sports. They're obviously too dangerous as the casualty rate is 100%.
I liked the tender love scene, but I'm vanilla and Fiat did express his desires for next time. The redemption…
I think this is a different director - all he's done so far other than this is TT2. Are you scared now?
The guy who did LBC is a very experienced and able director - if he were doing this show I doubt we'd be having this conversation.
One of my complaints about BL in general is the seme/uke thing, where the uke is a stereotypical 19th century virgin girl dropped into the role. Why can't ukes be more like Elizabeth in Pride & Prejudice? Why do they all have to be so petty and useless? Fiat can't even descend a staircase without injuring himself.
Anyway, the trope strikes me as somehow misogynist - the genre in general is horribly misogynist, especially this author's work.
I’m enjoying this drama, but I agree with you about that love scene. It was flat. It was hard not to cringe…
Yes, the watch removal was particularly mood-killing. I like Ja and Smart a lot, and James (Pob) has been good so far, so I'm hoping the series finds some direction and doesn't meander around cake-anger and jealousy for 12 eps.
I liked the tender love scene, but I'm vanilla and Fiat did express his desires for next time. The redemption…
I totally agree that redemption of characters is a common trope - but redemption isn't usally reached in the second episode, and not by rewriting the characters "sins" to actually not be sins, e.g. promiscuity for the purpose of hurting someone else suddenly becomes heroically saving people from abuse. If redemption is what this is about, then let's see him redeeom himself, and have less time consumed by sulking over very small cakes in fancy boxes.
Leon, on the other hand, is changing because he's fascinated by Pob - largely because Pob keeps rejecting him - and because Pob is such a good person, he wants to be a better person to be worthy of him. That's fitting the classical mold and is a much more compelling story. The search for self is an important quality in good stories. It's why everyone loves ITSAY and GSP (among other things).
As for the love scene, there's nothing wrong with being vanilla. But don't have someone say "I can't hold back anymore!" and then follow it with something so passionless - vanilla doesn't have to be passionless - some of the most exciting love scenes are vanilla.
If Leon is expriencing shyness, then let's see it - there was no pain or awkwardness in his expression, no uncertainty in his movement - it was just a robotic formula. And if he's shy, then let's see Fiat do something to make him more comfotable instead of just laying there. That's not Ja or First's fault, it's the directing.
Every week I wonder if youll stop watching a show you clearly don't like, but here you are again!You really thing…
Kissing his hand didn't match where they are and what Leo just said. They are adults in an adult relationship, and Leo just said he can't hold back anymore. "I can't hold back anymore" is not a shy line, and nobody says "I can't control myself - I have to kiss your hand really slowly!" Zero passion. Do you think it's romantic to pause and remove your watch?
Fiat specifically said he was bothered because he thought the cake was from Leo and that he was embarassed because he'd been so visibly happy about it. If he was upset Leo went to his house, he would have said so.
I actually don't think you're exaggerating about TT - except you left out several long montages in slo-mo showing all their good times together played to a sad ballad. But my point isn't that they take too long to resolve things, it's that there so many childish things to resolve and no actual plot.
And more importantly, that Fiat has not only been drained of everything that made him interesting, they're also rewriting his motivations to make them somehow noble. That's not character development. It's hand-waving things away.
The pacing is fine, but there's no plot. Fiat has been drained of all his fire, and this is entirely about jealousy…
Yes, I'm engaged enough to give it a little more time - engaged with the Pob-Leon story - but the main couple need to get a more substantial storyline than pouting over trivial things and being jealous for no apparent reason.
So, that ended. For 417 couples, the success rate was pretty low. 1/417. Did Aof get trapped on an island by COVID or something? Doesn't he have a smartphone? Why just his voice?
I know it's not simple at all to stop a production, then start it up months later - Cupid Coach did it and they obviously couldn't get all the actors and the story took an extremely sharp turn in another direction - but they should have just ended on a cliffhanger and maybe tried to get a movie put together after COVID. The whole series was pointless - only one couple got to the finish line!
You could tell Copy's scenes from this ep were filmed earlier - he was back to the horrible styling they've done for him. His "months later" look made him 10 times more attractive. I didn't even notice him until Ep 14.
Right? There was no resolution to any of it. Who read this script and thought it was good?
I think they got torpedoes by COVID and did the best they could - but it would have been better to wait. I guess it's hard to get a production back together months later, but anything would be better than this.
It was hard to find - there's no info, and because they named it "love is", it's impossible to google. Why would anyone name it that? Sigh. Anyway, it'll be on the Bright A3 Entertainment YouTube channel tomorrow.
Wow, episode 4 and we have already an unpunished crime! Yay, way to go Mame
Not to mention rewriting Fiat's promiscuity as heroically helping people. (Note: I don't have a problem with sleeping around. I do have a problem with sleeping around solely to upset someone, which is bad enough in itself beside his using all the people he's sleeping with.)
Anyone here loving not only the amazingly chemistry between the actors but the flow and glow of the show? Like…
The pacing is fine, but there's no plot. Fiat has been drained of all his fire, and this is entirely about jealousy over petty things and sulking over petty things. With everything Fiat has been through, he's upset because the cake wasn't from Leo? Everything about this is good except the writing, which is the worst. I mean, who wrote this? Oh yeah, that's right.
I am here to say basically the same. Part 1 and 2 of this episode especially was so draining to watch...Fiat has…
I thought I would either love or hate him. Instead my reaction is "meh." He's just dull. Even Ja seems to be phoning it in, but I can't blame him with the material he has to work with.
I honestly think the scene was just fine considering the level they are at as boyfriends.
They're brand new at being lovers - they should be barely able to keep their hands off each other. Leo even said "I can't hold back anymore" - then he held back. Even Fiat told him afterwards to be rougher. (That line was needed and I appreciated it.)
So I basically watch this for Leo (and Leon), and I think Ja is one of the hottest BL actors - but that was a flat and strange love scene. There was just no sexual chemistry there and the dialog didn't match the intensity of the scene.
If you say "I can't hold back anymore", then kiss his hand, you have to wonder, "Holding back what? Your inner 12-year old?" That scene needed to have some immediate heat. It felt like a color-by-numbers BL love scene. I was just staring at my screen thinking, "Hmm, he didn't grab Fiat's hand and pin it over his head... oh, there it is."
I'm trying to figure out what's missing from this - partly it's that there's no plot. But checking on the director, he's done this and TT2, which made me think, "Ah. That explains it."
They've also drained Fiat of anything interesting and made him a "uke by the numbers" - they're re-writing the past. He didn't really want to steal Type, he was only being slutty to help people? What? So where's the dramatic tension? In being upset because a cake wasn't Leo's idea? They even had him do that "eww, stop trying to kiss me" thing that ukes always seem to do.
The only plot device in this is jealousy. Jealousy, jealousy, and more jealousy. Ugh.
Ja Phachara Suansri (leo) is just a bad actor and bad at sex scenes, I really don't find him comfortable or natural…
Hmm. That's certainly worth considering - but I got a strong impression that it was the actor that was uncomfortable and not the chraracter - if it's the character it needs to be explicit that he's uncomfortable, whereas Leo said "I can't hold back anymore" and then did "BL love scene by the numbers".
Again, a BL character is unable to stray within 50 meters of a basketball court/football field without getting injured. The Thai government should ban sports. They're obviously too dangerous as the casualty rate is 100%.
Are you scared now?
The guy who did LBC is a very experienced and able director - if he were doing this show I doubt we'd be having this conversation.
One of my complaints about BL in general is the seme/uke thing, where the uke is a stereotypical 19th century virgin girl dropped into the role. Why can't ukes be more like Elizabeth in Pride & Prejudice? Why do they all have to be so petty and useless? Fiat can't even descend a staircase without injuring himself.
Anyway, the trope strikes me as somehow misogynist - the genre in general is horribly misogynist, especially this author's work.
Leon, on the other hand, is changing because he's fascinated by Pob - largely because Pob keeps rejecting him - and because Pob is such a good person, he wants to be a better person to be worthy of him. That's fitting the classical mold and is a much more compelling story. The search for self is an important quality in good stories. It's why everyone loves ITSAY and GSP (among other things).
As for the love scene, there's nothing wrong with being vanilla. But don't have someone say "I can't hold back anymore!" and then follow it with something so passionless - vanilla doesn't have to be passionless - some of the most exciting love scenes are vanilla.
If Leon is expriencing shyness, then let's see it - there was no pain or awkwardness in his expression, no uncertainty in his movement - it was just a robotic formula. And if he's shy, then let's see Fiat do something to make him more comfotable instead of just laying there. That's not Ja or First's fault, it's the directing.
Fiat specifically said he was bothered because he thought the cake was from Leo and that he was embarassed because he'd been so visibly happy about it. If he was upset Leo went to his house, he would have said so.
I actually don't think you're exaggerating about TT - except you left out several long montages in slo-mo showing all their good times together played to a sad ballad. But my point isn't that they take too long to resolve things, it's that there so many childish things to resolve and no actual plot.
And more importantly, that Fiat has not only been drained of everything that made him interesting, they're also rewriting his motivations to make them somehow noble. That's not character development. It's hand-waving things away.
I know it's not simple at all to stop a production, then start it up months later - Cupid Coach did it and they obviously couldn't get all the actors and the story took an extremely sharp turn in another direction - but they should have just ended on a cliffhanger and maybe tried to get a movie put together after COVID. The whole series was pointless - only one couple got to the finish line!
You could tell Copy's scenes from this ep were filmed earlier - he was back to the horrible styling they've done for him. His "months later" look made him 10 times more attractive. I didn't even notice him until Ep 14.
If you say "I can't hold back anymore", then kiss his hand, you have to wonder, "Holding back what? Your inner 12-year old?" That scene needed to have some immediate heat. It felt like a color-by-numbers BL love scene. I was just staring at my screen thinking, "Hmm, he didn't grab Fiat's hand and pin it over his head... oh, there it is."
I'm trying to figure out what's missing from this - partly it's that there's no plot. But checking on the director, he's done this and TT2, which made me think, "Ah. That explains it."
They've also drained Fiat of anything interesting and made him a "uke by the numbers" - they're re-writing the past. He didn't really want to steal Type, he was only being slutty to help people? What? So where's the dramatic tension? In being upset because a cake wasn't Leo's idea? They even had him do that "eww, stop trying to kiss me" thing that ukes always seem to do.
The only plot device in this is jealousy. Jealousy, jealousy, and more jealousy. Ugh.