It was okay that the complete episode focused on Phob and Nut, but unfortunately it felt like two different persons…
I agree 100%. Except for the question about why he hadn't contacted him for 4 years - I think he would dare to ask that. I think he would demand an answer before he was willing to go any further.
Well, I liked that. It felt like movement instead of running in circles. It was also Shin Woo-heavy so it felt less like another episode of Robot Love.
Also, it felt good to see that the villain's chickens are coming home to roost. We've seen Da On be gently firm, but we haven't seen him furious - that should be interesting. Although knowing him, he may just be deflated. I would settle for ice-cold, though - in a way that's worse, because being yelled at might be easier on her than how that would feel. I still wish she'd trip and fall into the path of a lawn-mower, but you can't have everything you want.
I think you can see the shift starting in TK. Shin Woo hasn't poured it on yet, but you just know it will be compelling. It's strong enough with him just standing there - if he's aiming All That directly at you, you don't have a chance.
I normally hate love triangles with a passion so to say I'm surprised that I love this show as much as I do is…
Maybe it's working for you because it's not a typical triangle - it's sequential rather than concurrent. There's a clear end to one before the second starts, at least for TK, and the other two didn't really compete - they stood aside for each other.
I might be digging into it too much but:I am honestly not sure if TK likes DO as a person, or if he just liked…
I don't think it's that simple - attraction is partly physical too. But there's no doubt that what you said plays a large role - I doubt he'd ever had anyone treat him like that before.
it’s indeed but but u gotta watch love by chance if u want to see real bad acting 🤣
It's not my job to improve Gun, it's the director's job, and the acting coach. My job is to watch, and the purpose of this forum is to share what we think, good and bad. I've said several times that Gun is good at comedy - but I think he's wrong for this role, and it's having a strong negative impact on the series. I think everyone started out having a warm feeling for him because of LBC, where he was a comic side character, but it's getting hard by this point to overlook his shortcomings as a lead. You can see the shift in opinion over time.
The parcing for me was better in this episode. For the record, I think most people don't like the overextended scenes that are not emotionally relevant, not scenes like them laying in bed, which are wonderful. This ep there was a small example which was not important enough to comment on otherwise, except as an example - when Phob is scanning Nut's room, it was longer than necessary. Or there was a scene that ended and there was a slow pan to a tree for no apparent reason. Again, not important, but when almost every scene is like that, it adds up and seems self-indulgent. Did the cinematographer just think the tree was beautiful? (Now that I said that, someone will hang himself from it just to spite me. Or maybe it will eat a kite).
This ep the editing was tighter, which was great - but there were some content issues that took me out of the story a little:
- I think the chances of Nut not needing an explanation for Phob's 4-year disappearance are close to zero, especially after Phob said it was accidental. That's a long accident. Not to mention Nut not really asking about the details of Phob's illness. It's not like he's a med student or something, right?
- Phob keeps on talking about "what happened last night" - you mean a kiss that elementary school kids might share? It was sweet, but where was the longing? These two have been in unrequited love for years and just been separated for four years - I didn't need them to rip each other's clothes off and have crazed monkey sex, but there was no heat - Nut even woke fully dressed. That kiss would have been perfection for the next morning, or when they were in high school, but not to take the place of fulfillment of passion repressed for years. If that really was Nut's first time, is there no reflection on it? And wouldn't he want to do it again rather than having bad noodles from a truck? The peck at the beach was beautiful, but they haven't touched since the previous night - no holding hands, no brushing against each other - not even deliberately bumping sides as they walk.
That's what I think is missing - there's a passion for the artistry of making a film, but not enough passion in the story itself. In ITSAY, did you ever doubt for a second how much Teh wanted Oh?
I like the naturalistic way the characters interact, but it's not the right intensity for the nature of the moment. I feel as if I should be feeling more when I watch this than I am. It's good, and it's not like I don't want to watch it, but I don't need to or ever think about it during the week. Last night I binged Crossing the Line - I just meant to watch the first ep, but I couldn't stop. I can't feel that way about this, and I really want to.
That pissed me off. I would have loved an epilogue about the main pair, and would have been happy with a behind the scenes, Instead, they gave us a whole episode about the ex, who already totally derailed the last third of the series with a ridiculous turn in the plot that made no real sense from the beginning. We never really got to see any intimacy between Yu Zhen and Shi Lei, and we didn't here, unless you count their 12-year old kissing scene at the end, with Hank leaning away from Aaron with his body tensed as if he were doing something he didn't want to.
Honestly, this lowered the show considerably for me and left me with a sour memory of it.
This one is hard to beat - it's so well-written and acted. I just binged it again. The payoff in this works so much better than in most BLs - I guess it's that all the drama was internal, i.e. people coming to terms with themselves and their feelings, and not a million external problems that fall out of the sky like evil girlfriends that were never mentioned until 8 episodes in.
Funnily enough, that's precisely why I like this show. Taekyung and Shinwoo being endgame isn't surprising at…
Hmm. I guess where I differ is that the show isn't keeping me guessing. It's been completely obvious Shin Woo is endgame from the start. Now if that's NOT what happens, I'll be truly surprised and delighted. But if they don't get together, then what was the point of Shin Woo's character at all? He just gets nothing after doing almost nothing?
I would rewatch WYEL. That's just two hours of your time instead of 8 wasted on this. The problem is one of the…
Your last sentence made me LOL - that would be awkward. I feel bad for Gun's friends and family - I hope they're better actors than he is. That was super mean to say, but I think it was funny and I stand by it.
Well, I thought that would be excruciating, but it was merely dull with a few good action scenes, mostly Bank-related. The ones with Sun were pretty good, but he and his opponents did that thing where they just stand there and wait to be punched so they can take their turn to punch back, which is a little silly-looking. But it was well-filmed.
I really wish they could stop making Gun have to act angry. Can't he just be tired or sad? His angry just doesn't work.
This series might have worked better if it had been more of a straight comedy. The premise and plot are so ridiculous as it is that it would have made sense to do it that way, and that would have sidestepped Gun's limitations and played to his strengths.
I’m not gonna pretend that Gun’s acting is anywhere near Oscar-worthy, but I really don’t think it’s half…
He's good at comedy and passable at many other things, but he's awful at anger, and he's called about to express it so often in this that it's excruciating. It's one fixed expression and one tone of voice at a fixed (loud) volume. It's so bad that it's hard to blame it on him - he should have been given acting coaching or not cast in the role.
it’s indeed but but u gotta watch love by chance if u want to see real bad acting 🤣
If I tried my best at acting, it would still be terrible. Trying my best isn't good enough if I fail all the time, and perhaps I should move on to something I'm good at. I would hope people around me wouldn't let me embarass myself over and over and encourage me to take up a pursuit I can be successful at.
Also, it felt good to see that the villain's chickens are coming home to roost. We've seen Da On be gently firm, but we haven't seen him furious - that should be interesting. Although knowing him, he may just be deflated. I would settle for ice-cold, though - in a way that's worse, because being yelled at might be easier on her than how that would feel. I still wish she'd trip and fall into the path of a lawn-mower, but you can't have everything you want.
I think you can see the shift starting in TK. Shin Woo hasn't poured it on yet, but you just know it will be compelling. It's strong enough with him just standing there - if he's aiming All That directly at you, you don't have a chance.
This ep the editing was tighter, which was great - but there were some content issues that took me out of the story a little:
- I think the chances of Nut not needing an explanation for Phob's 4-year disappearance are close to zero, especially after Phob said it was accidental. That's a long accident. Not to mention Nut not really asking about the details of Phob's illness. It's not like he's a med student or something, right?
- Phob keeps on talking about "what happened last night" - you mean a kiss that elementary school kids might share? It was sweet, but where was the longing? These two have been in unrequited love for years and just been separated for four years - I didn't need them to rip each other's clothes off and have crazed monkey sex, but there was no heat - Nut even woke fully dressed. That kiss would have been perfection for the next morning, or when they were in high school, but not to take the place of fulfillment of passion repressed for years. If that really was Nut's first time, is there no reflection on it? And wouldn't he want to do it again rather than having bad noodles from a truck? The peck at the beach was beautiful, but they haven't touched since the previous night - no holding hands, no brushing against each other - not even deliberately bumping sides as they walk.
That's what I think is missing - there's a passion for the artistry of making a film, but not enough passion in the story itself. In ITSAY, did you ever doubt for a second how much Teh wanted Oh?
I like the naturalistic way the characters interact, but it's not the right intensity for the nature of the moment. I feel as if I should be feeling more when I watch this than I am. It's good, and it's not like I don't want to watch it, but I don't need to or ever think about it during the week. Last night I binged Crossing the Line - I just meant to watch the first ep, but I couldn't stop. I can't feel that way about this, and I really want to.
Honestly, this lowered the show considerably for me and left me with a sour memory of it.
I really wish they could stop making Gun have to act angry. Can't he just be tired or sad? His angry just doesn't work.
This series might have worked better if it had been more of a straight comedy. The premise and plot are so ridiculous as it is that it would have made sense to do it that way, and that would have sidestepped Gun's limitations and played to his strengths.