I think it's safe to say this was made on a shoe string. Look at the sponsors list, so that explains some of the…
I'm not sure Mean could have absorbed much of use doing LBC. But UWMA was unbearably slow too (and very well shot), so I see it there. I agree the dialog is much better than freshmen efforts, and better than almost all large-budget mainstream BLs as well.
That's the huge advantage to writing original screenplays instead of adapting novels. You're writing from the start for a visual medium and you've already taken advantage of its possibilities. My goto example is Oxygen, where "the boy who lost his smile" works much better in a written medium than it does in a visual one. Or at least they are adapted without really rethinking the presentation.
Or how since you're reading anyway, people texting each other in novels is fine, but it makes you want to hurt things when it goes on forever onscreen.
To me, the soap product thing is a cultural artifact, not a racist one. Upper class women in the U.S. long ago…
Yes, but "classist soap" doesn't have the same comedic ring to it.
Classicm & racism are more closely linked in multi-ethnic countries like the US or SE Asia & Philippines, where paler races are usually considered superior. There's tan vs not tan, and dark skin vs light skin - similar but not the same, because the gradations of color may distinguish desirability within one race, it doesn't necessarily make much difference when you're dealing with people of different ethnicities. A pale Korean is likely to find a tanned Korean superior to a pale Vietamese person.
Oh sorry - I didn't correct the number of eps - I've watched all 10 that have subtitles. I did mention that in…
I enjoyed it too! You did help change my mind a little, so that's a bonus for me.
What I find homophobic is that the main characters are always specifically defined as not-gay, and to make sure that's clear, they include explicitly gay characters who are always very effeminate and predatory, which are very negative stereotypes. The actual story itself isn't homophobic, but there's no reason for everyone to keep saying "I like girls, I'm not gay, I only like _________ [insert name of boy]"
If they don't want to define characters as gay, then don't define them at all.
I don't think it's homophobic to have homophobic characters as long as the story makes it clear that it's not acceptable, which they did in this series. Although it can be unpleasant to watch.
The write yourself a poem pick-up strategy was one of the lamest I've ever seen.I like when stories of gay life…
Big Eden was certainly a gem. I was actually dating a guy from Montana at the time, and I said I thought their tolerance was really unrealistic and he said I was wrong - if someone gay moved there from somewhere else, they wouldn't accept it, but they're fine with THEIR gays. That does make sense. It's a little like casual racism. You've probably heard an old relative say about someone of a racial minority "he's one of the good ones". My grandfather said things like that a lot and it took a lot of self-control to let it go.
Wait, what did James do? Ait is being a spoiled little child and I really despise him. James did nothing wrong…
I agree that was awful for Maro, but James assumed the answer was a strong "no" and was trying to treat the situation lightly to put Ait at ease. So while I would agree he's incredibly stupid, I don't think it was really wrong. His EQ (E for emotion - I'm not sure if that's an expression where you are) is certainly low if he didn't even realize Marco liked him after all this time.
And James did say to Ait ahead of time that he was going to ask Marco with Ait so he could hear it for himself. If I was dating someone who was jealous of my best friend, I wouldn't treat it very seriously either, although I think I'd be aware of it if there was a crush involved.
Marco is not blameless here - he never discussed this with James and has been wanting more from him for years - that's not right either - Marco is sitting in James' "boyfriend seat" and that leaves no room for an actual boyfriend, as we've just seen.
The more I've thought about it, the more I think Ait did have reason to be jealous, but he handled it very poorly.
I also bombed the try not to hate Sohee challenge.
If I found a genie in a bottle, my wish would be to make So Hee real so I could run her over with a white SUV. Not really, but it's fun to think about and it really shouldn't be.
I am flabbergasted at the people condemning Bas. You sound like the people who wonder why abuse victims can’t…
If Bas reports Tee, his name will be dragged through the mud, he'll likely never work again, anything gay he's ever done will come to light (even if he's never had a girlfriend that will be enough to condemn him), his family will cast him out, and Tee is unlikely to be brought to justice, even if there's evidence, because people will say that Bas wasn't resisting, therefore he must have been willing.
Bas is in a hopeless position, and his decision is probably right for him, even if it's not the best for Tee's future victims. He'll have to endure Tee for a limited period of time, as opposed to doing something that could ruin his entire life.
The USA is quite a bit further along in this regard, and yet it wasn't until very recently that people began to speak up, including about things that happened decades ago, and it all mattered. Bas can in the future be one important voice (and video) of many that collectively can finally bring people like Tee down, but it won't happen today - at least outside the plot of a BL. Look at the real-life situation - who has suffered, the actor, or the producer?
Another SJW codswallop. The world cinema and tv business are full of directors working with their spouses openly…
Come on - it's more than a little self-indulgent that all these beautiful boys are hot for the director - should we be interested in watching Aam's fantay fulfilment? What does any of this have to do with the story?
And @crib is right. James and Ait are not artistic collaborators, James is Ait's boss and it's totally inappropriate for them to be dating, and especially foolish in a scenario where there are sexual harassment problems. He could have waited until the series was over, it's maybe 6 weeks of shooting at most. It's not an issue of social justice warrioring, it's basic ethics and professionalism.
The term SJW is commonly used by the alt-right - I'm not sure that's the company you want to be in. People can get overly sensitive to these issues, but isn't that better than not being sensitive enough? The first is merely annoying, the second can be dangerous.
OK, I really loved season 1 and the first two eps of this season, but I really did not like this episode at all.
First of all, the director is being self-indulgent having everyone fall in love with the director in the story. It's unnecessary and serves no real purpose to the plot or the themes of the series, and in fact detracts from it - we burned almost a whole episode on this unpleasant love triangle. The way Marco was behaving with Bas is not how a person in love with somoene else behaves.
And why is everyone mad at James? I don't see how he did anything wrong - he didn't make Marco like him, and if Ait is going to be that childish and selfish and be jealous of everyone close to James, James should dump the brat, because it's only going to get worse. I really do not like Ait. At all. The actor is doing a goof job, though.
If anybody threw up on me, I would have a fit and would have taken a bath in fire that comes straight from hell.…
I wouldn't be bothered in the slightest to use someone else's toothbrush. Not ANYONE else's, but I would use Marco's for sure. Just wash it first - it's already nearly sterile from having toothpaste on it.
Being barfed on would bother me, but I could look past it if I were dealing with someone in as much pain as Bas. I would have been much quicker to get everything clean though before doing anything else.
I'm not sure why anyone is hating on James - the only thing he did wrong is choose a horrible seflish spoiled little brat to date.
Wait, what did James do? Ait is being a spoiled little child and I really despise him. James did nothing wrong - it's not his fault Marco liked him, although he's a little dense if he couldn't tell.
For Bas, it's not just his career - he's also struggling with being gay, and that would be revealed if he goes against Tee.
I was starting to think "maybe this won't be so bad" until the 3rd trailer. So a guy is worried he might seem easy if he makes a move, like any guy in the history of the human race has ever worried about that, and another evil female - the absence of which I thought was to be a refreshing aspect of this series. But nope, it's a requirement in BL to have a horrible female character.
But Ja is so good-looking I'll probably at least ff through it in hopes of a shirtless scene. But can we please retire the evil female trope? I don't really like any tropes, but I can deal with the ones that aren't misogynist or homophobic.
That's the huge advantage to writing original screenplays instead of adapting novels. You're writing from the start for a visual medium and you've already taken advantage of its possibilities. My goto example is Oxygen, where "the boy who lost his smile" works much better in a written medium than it does in a visual one. Or at least they are adapted without really rethinking the presentation.
Or how since you're reading anyway, people texting each other in novels is fine, but it makes you want to hurt things when it goes on forever onscreen.
Classicm & racism are more closely linked in multi-ethnic countries like the US or SE Asia & Philippines, where paler races are usually considered superior. There's tan vs not tan, and dark skin vs light skin - similar but not the same, because the gradations of color may distinguish desirability within one race, it doesn't necessarily make much difference when you're dealing with people of different ethnicities. A pale Korean is likely to find a tanned Korean superior to a pale Vietamese person.
What I find homophobic is that the main characters are always specifically defined as not-gay, and to make sure that's clear, they include explicitly gay characters who are always very effeminate and predatory, which are very negative stereotypes. The actual story itself isn't homophobic, but there's no reason for everyone to keep saying "I like girls, I'm not gay, I only like _________ [insert name of boy]"
If they don't want to define characters as gay, then don't define them at all.
I don't think it's homophobic to have homophobic characters as long as the story makes it clear that it's not acceptable, which they did in this series. Although it can be unpleasant to watch.
And James did say to Ait ahead of time that he was going to ask Marco with Ait so he could hear it for himself. If I was dating someone who was jealous of my best friend, I wouldn't treat it very seriously either, although I think I'd be aware of it if there was a crush involved.
Marco is not blameless here - he never discussed this with James and has been wanting more from him for years - that's not right either - Marco is sitting in James' "boyfriend seat" and that leaves no room for an actual boyfriend, as we've just seen.
The more I've thought about it, the more I think Ait did have reason to be jealous, but he handled it very poorly.
Bas is in a hopeless position, and his decision is probably right for him, even if it's not the best for Tee's future victims. He'll have to endure Tee for a limited period of time, as opposed to doing something that could ruin his entire life.
The USA is quite a bit further along in this regard, and yet it wasn't until very recently that people began to speak up, including about things that happened decades ago, and it all mattered. Bas can in the future be one important voice (and video) of many that collectively can finally bring people like Tee down, but it won't happen today - at least outside the plot of a BL. Look at the real-life situation - who has suffered, the actor, or the producer?
And @crib is right. James and Ait are not artistic collaborators, James is Ait's boss and it's totally inappropriate for them to be dating, and especially foolish in a scenario where there are sexual harassment problems. He could have waited until the series was over, it's maybe 6 weeks of shooting at most. It's not an issue of social justice warrioring, it's basic ethics and professionalism.
The term SJW is commonly used by the alt-right - I'm not sure that's the company you want to be in. People can get overly sensitive to these issues, but isn't that better than not being sensitive enough? The first is merely annoying, the second can be dangerous.
First of all, the director is being self-indulgent having everyone fall in love with the director in the story. It's unnecessary and serves no real purpose to the plot or the themes of the series, and in fact detracts from it - we burned almost a whole episode on this unpleasant love triangle. The way Marco was behaving with Bas is not how a person in love with somoene else behaves.
And why is everyone mad at James? I don't see how he did anything wrong - he didn't make Marco like him, and if Ait is going to be that childish and selfish and be jealous of everyone close to James, James should dump the brat, because it's only going to get worse. I really do not like Ait. At all. The actor is doing a goof job, though.
Also, there was not enough Marco in this episode.
Being barfed on would bother me, but I could look past it if I were dealing with someone in as much pain as Bas. I would have been much quicker to get everything clean though before doing anything else.
I'm not sure why anyone is hating on James - the only thing he did wrong is choose a horrible seflish spoiled little brat to date.
For Bas, it's not just his career - he's also struggling with being gay, and that would be revealed if he goes against Tee.
But Ja is so good-looking I'll probably at least ff through it in hopes of a shirtless scene. But can we please retire the evil female trope? I don't really like any tropes, but I can deal with the ones that aren't misogynist or homophobic.