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This is a discussion forum where we discuss how we feel about how we watch. Many of us feel Gun is terrible and ruining what could have been a fun show. If that's the truth for us, then we're not going to lie about it. If people were saying Gun is stupid and a bad person, that would be out of line. But people have been fairly specific that he's awful at acting anger. He's a good comic actor, but drama is beyond him.

Bullying is a serious problem, and calling this bullying is trivalizing people's pain.

A BL that checks all the boxes can be boring just for that. Although it depends on which boxes. If it's a checklist of tropes, you get, well, Nitiman,

I would rewatch WYEL. That's just two hours of your time instead of 8 wasted on this. The problem is one of the lead actors is terrible, but in a bad way. Or skim through it for the side couple, which is wonderful. The bodyguard takes his shirt off occassionally, and that's fairly spectacular, but is it enough to invest 8 hours? I'm shallow, so "yes", but I can't recommend it.

Everybody kept getting mad at me for saying that until Ep 6. I think maybe LBC has a warm spot in everyone's heart and since he was just a comic side character in that show his bad acting wasn't a big deal. In this series, for a while I could tolerate it mostly because they would strategically take off Boat's shirt, but they've stopped doing that so now I tend to FF through eps for PitchBank scenes.

For UWMA I ended up fastforwarding though all the endless staring scenes to get to the TeamWin scenes. For this series, I really enjoy looking at Boat, so I'm in a quandry. But if it weren't for PitchBank, I'm not even sure I'd skim it for the occassional shirtless Boat scene.

OMG, "I wouldn't rely on someone who says this is their favorite because it just can't be." That really made me laugh. That was also my reaction to people saying Nitman was their favorite. I feel like saying, "Oh, then you must have missed every other BL that's ever been made."

The title says it all. You should know what you're getting when the very first scene is out of focus. The story idea isn't the same old thing, but the execution... there was an unintentional LOL moment when a character flashes back to a scene that just happened. I don't mean like a minute ago, I mean just a few seconds ago.

There's a really strange and somewhat disturbing love scene where it looks like one of them is having great sex, and the other one hates it - he looks like it's making him ill. The acting is not good, althouh the Greyson Jay isn't too bad - he's at least committed to the scene and not looking at the camera all the time.

For me to watch something like this, there needs to be a good message, or social commentary, or something, anything. You can't hang a show on the abs and pecs of one actor - if I want to see that (I do), I can just go to his instagram and tiktok and not have to sit through this series to get to the good stuff.

One thing I'll say is that it's coherently written, which is a nice change - nobody has the power to teleport 20 miles to the middle of a forest when the plot needs him there, etc., and people behave consistently in character.

I shouldn't have said "waste of time" it's more like "something I shouldn't bother investing in."

I did qualify my statement - the romantic lead can be nice from the start if he rescues the main character. They can't just meet and shake hands and be good friends. There is a rare alternative where the romantic lead intrudes into the main character's life to be nice in an intially unwelcome way.

The problem for me is that they've neglected TK and Da On - they need to have been interacting more - the intense focus on Da On hasn't left much time to develop Shin Woo and TK, like in the example FUTS, the main character can be pursing the "wrong" lead while the story is still focused on the eventual main couple. This is better written than FUTS, but this is an issue that's not really let me get into this story.

This story just spins in circles. It's the same every week - no development at all. Also, Andrei is a bad person if he would accept a laptop as a gift without being in a relatiomship with Sef.

I keep hoping the production quality will go up with practice but it hasn't at all. The show is beeing carried by Allen's looks. And they need to be careful with the makeup. In the bed scenes he looks like he's severely ill - I think it's because there was too much on him and the lighting made his lips look pale and lifeless. Ivo's looked bad there too.

They're going to pair him with her. She'll completely balance out utterly destroying Da On's life by saying "Sorry about that", and get the guy. Remember how powerfully punished the villains were in He's Coming to Me or TharnType?

There was so much that was good about this ep, but it's still missing something for me - I've been thinking about it because everyone loves this so much.

The acting is still flat and robotic, but it can't be just that, because that's common to most of BL, and I'd rather there be underacting than overacting - the latter is glaring and takes you out of the story.

I don't like TK, but that's not it either. There are BLs I liked while not liking the lead.

I think what it is is that it was 100% obvious from the beginning of ep 1 that Shin Woo is endgame, so the strong focus of the show on TK and Da On feels like time wasted that could be spent developing the main couple's relationship. I would have been fine with a few eps like that, but 11 out of 16?

Shin Woo and TK interact hardly at all. The moments they do are nice, but it's a few seconds per ep. And there's nothing else of dramatic interest. They get along. That's it. They're not obviously in love (like for instance FUTS, where the situation was similar, but the story still focused on the eventual pair), they're not enemies, they just, well, get along, and TK barely notices Shin Woo.

Also, So Hee is a horrible human being who deserves to have her scarf get stuck in a garbage disposal and drag her whole head in, but I already know they don't have those in Korea. And there's a 99% likelihood she'll realize she was wrong, say she's sorry, then end up with the hottest and most interesting guy on the show, which is just infuriating and will ruin the finale for me.

This is watchable, but for all the above I don't really enjoy it too much.

Well, I can save you time. Shin Woo is 100% endgame which was made clear in the first 30 seconds of the show when he didn't like TK. The person who doesn't like the lead is always the endgame. I don't mean this as an insult to anyone, but I can't believe anyone thinks or fears it's not Shin Woo. Has it ever been the guy who's really nice to the lead from the very beginning if nothing bad happened to him? The only time the nice guy is allowed to be the romantic interest is when the lead trips and he catches him, or saves him from beaten, or something. Otherwise, it's forbidden by BL law. That's one of the reasons I'm not as into this as a lot of people. It's always been so clear that it's Shin Woo that all the focus on TK and Da On seems like a waste of time since it's not going to happen.

I don't know anything about what will happen - this is just my speculation.

Sorry, I lied by accident. I thought it was fully subbed because they did 8, 9, & 10, but 5-7 are not subbed. There are links to fan-subbed eps in the ep 5 comments by Janos Small.

Are poop jokes funnier in the Philippines and Thailand than they are elsewhere? These happen a lot in BL. In Ep 4 a character poops, wipes with his hand, and doesn't wash it. That's revolting, not funny. And then the rest of the ep was a mud fight. That's all that happens. Well, at least the mud fight prompted shirtlessness.

Can someone explain what the point of the evil girl's scheming? Both boys were leaving, so she'd never have had to see them again, but instead she summons the obligatory girlfriend that materializes upon command to mess things up. Ugh. It's like BL-makers absolutely cannot resist putting a girlfriend into every f#$%ing story.

No, the Director is the head of the production and reports to Tee, Everyone else is under James. You have no idea if all the relationships you mentioned above were truly consensual. As we've seen lately, people in power have demanded sexual favors of people to allow them careers. If James wants Ait off the production, he's gone. If he chooses, he can get Ait blacklisted so he has a difficult time finding any work again.

And it doesn't matter what people did 60 years ago, that's not acceptable behavior today. 60 years ago a person could be thrown in prison in Western countries for homsexual activity. You're comparing the morality of a past era with today's, and picking and choosing.

In any case, people didn't have the ability to "butt into" what was going on behind the scenes - you can't fire up 1950s camera equipment and film people behaving poorly, and in any case, studio heads were very powerful and could easily silence anyone. Kennedy slept around with who knows how many women, Eleanor Roosevelt lived with a woman, and people didin't even know FDR couldn't walk. It's a different world.

Whining about step-sibling couples is completely different than relationships where the power relationship makes it dubious whether or not both people are really able to consent. You're equating frivolous objections with real ones.

SJW is the terrm that the Alt RIght uses to attack anyone expressing socially progressive and liberal views, including feminism, civil rights, gay and transgender rights, and multiculturalism - and we're not talking about Christian Democrats or the British Conservative party, we're taking about Neo-Nazis and White nationalists. If you want to be in that company, good luck to you.

Reb needs a Disney character. I hope for his sake he grows past that.

I liked it but it was a little too romanticised for my tastes, with people giving long flowery speeches about love, etc. I guess I prefer more realism in a story like this (as opposed to a regular BL, where I expect absolutely none).

I'm definitely a JM, and Rebs annoy me. In my experience they tend to flit from one relationship to the next, abandoning it when that initial passion cools. For me, it turns into something better after that - less terrifying and more secure and comfortable. For them, it's just over. Sometimes they develop a more nuanced idea of what a relationship is. In this case, Reb seems to have set himself on a specific idea of love - and one that isn't very realistic.

I think the chances of something working between them are nearly nil. There wasn't really a lot of chemistry, and their expectations are too different. Maybe in the future, if Reb learns love isn't a Disney movie.

The acting was pretty good, and the dialog was difficult to make work, so kudos to both of them. The writing was also good, and major points for a good ending.

I know the gesture, but I've never heard the name for it. It might be regional and I'm Californian. Or generational and I'm old.

The plot of the Anime seems quite different - I'll have to watch it - thanks!

Wow, that's a seriously obscure reference - I'm guessing you're no teen, or if you are, you watch a LOT of movies to get to that one. When I was reaching adulthood, all movies with gay content were like that, and there was AIDS on top of that, so you really couldn't win.