Ep. 3 & 4 introduced the background story for Muru Han Jiang which gives us a snapshot on how the 3 boys eventually…
awesome summary!! Are you watching this raw?? I am, since I don't need engsubs. But even so, there are just so many things happening that I forget to piece them back together sometimes XD
Nope it's not. They say their lines in Korean, although some of the Korean actors will sometimes say small portions…
Korean actors are obviously not as popular as Chinese actors who are at the same level in China, but there is relatively large enough interest for certain korean actors in China. Also China pays more money so a lot of korean actors want to make more bank that way.
How come that many korean actors star in Chinese shows? Is chinese easy for them to learn/pronounce?
Nope it's not. They say their lines in Korean, although some of the Korean actors will sometimes say small portions of their lines in Chinese. In the end, they will all be dubbed over by Chinese dubbers.
me too. Let us have more Shining Chinese actors and actresses come out. If I want Korean actors, I'll watch Korean…
Exactly!! Let the young, upcoming Chinese actors get their chances!! :(( So many new talents graduate from those top Chinese film academies (Beijing Film Academy, Shanghai Theatre Academy, Central Academy of Drama, etc) each year and a lot of them are talented and cheaper too why not give them more opportunities :((
I personally agree with almost all of this, but I'm thrilled about the lifting of the ban because there were so…
By broader audience....... do you mean more MDL watchers?? I'm curious if Koreans would ever want to watch a Chinese drama......because I honestly don't know any Chinese drama that was very popular in Korea.
I honestly don't know if the demand/love for Chinese dramas will increase with addition of Korean actors, and I honestly wish that people are interested in Chinese dramas because of that fact that it's in Chinese and not because some Korean actor is in it....if you know what I mean. Since I think Chinese dramas and actors can honestly stand on their own. But the large episode count for Chinese dramas is always gonna be there and that will still cause a lot of potential fans not to want to watch cdramas.
haha I'm pretty okay with the censorship stuff tbh since productions can work their way around it although I see what you mean. But tbh, I dont think the limitations will get stretched very far because the govt will pretty much always remain their control of what they need to control. ://
By doing their own dialogue, do you mean like doing their own dubbing in Chinese or saying their lines in Chinese but still having a fluent Chinese speaker dub them?? I'm sure there are some korean actors who have said small portions of their lines in Mandarin, but I can't name any specifics since I try to avoid watching Chinese dramas/movies with korean actors in them. I don't think any korean actor speaks "good" Mandarin, but I do think Im Yoona has pretty decent Chinese pronunciation so props to her!! Lmk if there are others because I honestly don't know of any.
The dubbing thing is why I mind it less. Ultimately it doesn't matter much for me. The only problem with the Hallyu…
true, it did stall quite a few projects and changes had to be made which was probably a hassle. But it was nice (sorry). Personally it matters to me who's acting in a Chinese drama since I almost exclusively watch Chinese dramas only, so I'm used to the particular acting style, looks, etc. And I know Chinese fluently so the dubbing throws me off :((
unpopular opinion, but I really don't like seeing Korean actors in Chinese dramas so I'm quite bummed by this lifting of the ban. They're taking roles that could have been given to Chinese actors instead, a lot of them don't use Chinese when saying their lines and the dubbing doesn't match their mouths which really throws me off, their acting styles are different from Chinese actors, and they don't look Chinese so it's really weird seeing them especially in the historicals. Honestly, I enjoyed the Korean ban in respect to the cinema aspect. Just my personal opinion since I am an avid Chinese drama fan.
Edit: I speak/read/listen to Chinese fluently so the dubbing not matching their mouths really throws me off. But I am okay with dubbing in general since I watch Chinese dramas all the time.
3 episodes a week? where are there 2 different start dates this is confusing.
It should be 6 episodes per week, since Chinese dramas typically air 2 episodes per day. It is the December 18 air date since that is the one that the Nirvana in Fire 2 Official Weibo is using.
Has anyone seen this yet?? Chinese comments in the Youtube section all say that Hu Ge and the male actors are amazing but that the female lead's acting is pretty bad?? Is it so bad that it ruins the drama or is still bearable :D
Contrary to what the review says, I don't think this drama is like Descendants of the Sun at all. Yes, they are in military school for like the first 15 or so episodes, but that's just a phase of military training that is required for every single college student in China. A drama with a decent storyline (although it kind of started to go downhill for the last 10 episodes for me) with good acting and funny humor.
It is very interesting how international fans are disappointed by this drama, but in mainland China everyone sees this drama as up to par as Nirvana in Fire and one of the best spy dramas in a really long time.
this is my second attempt to watch this drama. the first one ended at half of episode 1, now i'm stuck at…
It is kind of difficult to say who will end up with who exactly in the end, because this drama series is based on a book series of the same name, and they have not yet adapted all the books into dramas yet. As of now, they have only Ode to Joy and Ode to Joy 2, and Ode to Joy 3 hasn't even started filming yet and on MDL it says that it most likely won't even air until 2019 LOL.
I'd say that this is different from Age of Youth, and advise that you take the two dramas as two separate dramas with no correlation to each other since neither is a remake of the other. The characters here are a bit older than the ones in Age of Youth, and are different as well, and the topics discussed in this drama are a bit more mature, and the setting is in China so a lot of Chinese references to life, love, and family are made instead so different ideas and viewpoints may be presented. Romance is a part of this drama but it is not the main portion and is on a equal scale to the life, work, friends, and family parts of this drama.
If you want to watch this, you will most likely have to watch Ode to Joy 2 immediately afterwards to see how everything connects with each other because some characters that are more important in the lives of these women don't show up until the second season. You may be disappointed in who ends up who, but the nice thing about the book series is that it is written in quite a realistic point of view, and unfortunately life does not always turn out the way we want it to. However, the drama certainly has been changing things here and there, so Ode to Joy 3 might be different from book 3 of the novel series.
SPOILERS FROM THE BOOK SERIES AHEAD!!!!!!
I read the first two books of the series awhile ago and never really got around to read book 3 in detail so my memory is a bit hazy.
Andy ends up with Bao Yifan (so not the Wei Wei in this first installment). Guan Guan's potential love interest doesn't even show up until Ode to Joy 2, but they kind of changed his character for the drama version so I dont know if they will follow the book for this couple. Fan Shengmei doesn't end up with Wang Baichuan in book 3 (also the final book) of the series. I think Qu Xiaoxiao and Zhao Qiping did end up in the book (although my memory is a bit hazy). Qiu Yingying ends up with Ying Qin in the end, but Ying Qin is more of a main role in Ode to Joy 2.
This drama will be airing on JSTV next year!! For sure it will be airing next year since it was part of the 2018 promotional trailer that JSTV released a few days ago
I am, since I don't need engsubs. But even so, there are just so many things happening that I forget to piece them back together sometimes XD
I honestly don't know if the demand/love for Chinese dramas will increase with addition of Korean actors, and I honestly wish that people are interested in Chinese dramas because of that fact that it's in Chinese and not because some Korean actor is in it....if you know what I mean. Since I think Chinese dramas and actors can honestly stand on their own. But the large episode count for Chinese dramas is always gonna be there and that will still cause a lot of potential fans not to want to watch cdramas.
haha I'm pretty okay with the censorship stuff tbh since productions can work their way around it although I see what you mean. But tbh, I dont think the limitations will get stretched very far because the govt will pretty much always remain their control of what they need to control. ://
By doing their own dialogue, do you mean like doing their own dubbing in Chinese or saying their lines in Chinese but still having a fluent Chinese speaker dub them?? I'm sure there are some korean actors who have said small portions of their lines in Mandarin, but I can't name any specifics since I try to avoid watching Chinese dramas/movies with korean actors in them. I don't think any korean actor speaks "good" Mandarin, but I do think Im Yoona has pretty decent Chinese pronunciation so props to her!! Lmk if there are others because I honestly don't know of any.
Edit: I speak/read/listen to Chinese fluently so the dubbing not matching their mouths really throws me off. But I am okay with dubbing in general since I watch Chinese dramas all the time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2r0IeeXr14
A drama with a decent storyline (although it kind of started to go downhill for the last 10 episodes for me) with good acting and funny humor.
I'd say that this is different from Age of Youth, and advise that you take the two dramas as two separate dramas with no correlation to each other since neither is a remake of the other. The characters here are a bit older than the ones in Age of Youth, and are different as well, and the topics discussed in this drama are a bit more mature, and the setting is in China so a lot of Chinese references to life, love, and family are made instead so different ideas and viewpoints may be presented. Romance is a part of this drama but it is not the main portion and is on a equal scale to the life, work, friends, and family parts of this drama.
If you want to watch this, you will most likely have to watch Ode to Joy 2 immediately afterwards to see how everything connects with each other because some characters that are more important in the lives of these women don't show up until the second season. You may be disappointed in who ends up who, but the nice thing about the book series is that it is written in quite a realistic point of view, and unfortunately life does not always turn out the way we want it to. However, the drama certainly has been changing things here and there, so Ode to Joy 3 might be different from book 3 of the novel series.
SPOILERS FROM THE BOOK SERIES AHEAD!!!!!!
I read the first two books of the series awhile ago and never really got around to read book 3 in detail so my memory is a bit hazy.
Andy ends up with Bao Yifan (so not the Wei Wei in this first installment). Guan Guan's potential love interest doesn't even show up until Ode to Joy 2, but they kind of changed his character for the drama version so I dont know if they will follow the book for this couple. Fan Shengmei doesn't end up with Wang Baichuan in book 3 (also the final book) of the series. I think Qu Xiaoxiao and Zhao Qiping did end up in the book (although my memory is a bit hazy). Qiu Yingying ends up with Ying Qin in the end, but Ying Qin is more of a main role in Ode to Joy 2.