Having watched WoF 3 times, have to say that personally the re-watch value doesn't diminish as there's so much…
I’m having a tough time with SLY withdrawal 😅. On my 2nd watch , I’m slowing down to absorb all the foreshadowing, the deeper character interactions and once again admire the brilliant acting of LYX. Still blown away by the gorgeous set design, stunning costumes and fight scenes. Looks like a 3rd rewatch is definitely coming…..
Big👏👏👏🥳 Never know there are comment sections for reviews....Amazing review, I have read it 3x now....Thank you for letting me appreciate SLY on deeper level.
This is a really amazing review. What makes it stand out is how she delved deeper, going beyond surface-level reactions. It explores the cultural, philosophical, and artistic layers of the show with real thought and surgical precision. I especially like how you highlight the story through both Chinese traditions and Western structures, showing how the drama bridges the two. Your review explains Tang Lici’s journey through the interplay of shūnyatā and karuna. That idea of compassion born from understanding emptiness makes the ending even more beautiful. Tang Lici is one of the most unique and impressive characters in recent years.
This type of review set an example how one can appreciate SLY on deeper level.
Thank you for this beautiful sharing! Will they collaborate again?And here he is last night, with his iconic flute:…
On Future collaboration she said “If I have a suitable script for him, I know the type of script that will excite Luo Yunxi. No producer will refuse to work with an excellent actor.” But imo maybe in the next few years, all the IP they have now is romance drama and LYX has not selected any romance drama for some years.
Watched WoF with eng subs on WeTV and MangoTV. Imo, none of the English subs do full justice to the depth of conversations…
The collective writings from several users—Azure, Xiang83, and Tara Verde—have greatly helped SLY’s international fans in going beyond the surface of the story. Their insights allow fans to better understand the deeper layers of the plot and the messages the producer and scriptwriter are trying to convey. I would love to hear more of your thoughts as well.
Not many people discuss this, but there are big underlying similarities between both Tan Tai Jin and Tang Li Ci…
Both sacrificed themselves after being enlightened to experience human emotion.
Tan Tai Jin found love, even if in my opinion it was one-sided. He had his guardian Ming Ye and his master, who loved him unconditionally. Viewers were given many scenes of TTJ’s backstory, allowing us to empathize with his suffering from childhood to adulthood. At the end he said: “My life has been so hard, let me end this life.”
TTJ’s expression during his sacrifice showed how painful and tired he was from his difficult life. There was a lot of sadness, but also relief that everything would be over soon and the world he loved would avoid calamity.
Tang Li Ci’s young backstory was severely cut, so we didn’t see enough of the even more sinister things he was forced to do during childhood.
TLC did have four years of happy memories during ZDL, and later many people supported him wholeheartedly—especially Shen Lang Hun, Chi Yun, Master Zhao, Bai Nan Zhu, Shui Do Po, Gu Xi Tan, Shao Ya Pin and others. He also finally realized he had a mother who loved him deeply.
Tang Li Ci’s last expression was: “I was not ready to leave this world, but I know this is what I must do. I loved all my friends and this world, and even though I am reluctant, I must do it.”
Two self-sacrificial acts, done differently. This is the exceptional quality of LYX’s acting.
Not many people discuss this, but there are big underlying similarities between both Tan Tai Jin and Tang Li Ci (and also his Chu Wanning): all of them were born scripted to serve a sinister goal for their creator, but all of them were able to break free from that scripted life.
I want to highlight the last moment—the difference between Tan Tai Jin and Tang Li Ci.
What Ms. Wang (Producer, Otter Culture) said about LYX and why he was chosen as Tang Li Ci, and why Otter Culture (producer of Immortality, Till the End of the Moon, and Whispers of Fate) chose him as their first, second, and third drama—all S+ and S++ grade investments:
"Luo Yunxi possesses the compassion of a strong person." This is very Chu Wanning, Tan Tai Jin and Tang Li Ci
"Actors are the paintbrush of the script. Even the best story requires actors to deeply understand its core to move the audience. Luo Yunxi's conviction as an actor, his understanding of the character, and the quality of his performance are sufficient to handle the complex role. Having worked with him before, I know his performances are very empathetic, his understanding of the character is very clear, and his action scenes are excellent. I know what kind of roles will excite him and what kind of effect he can achieve, which is why we're collaborating for the third time."
Data Queen Kwanto is always here to wreck haters!!
I actually think SLY is more suited for a Chinese audience or International fans with a lot of previous exposure of C Culture and history. Most international audiences won’t be able to scratch the surface of SLY, especially die-hard romance lovers and CP fans. While TTOETM is more friendly for international audience.
I don't know how you're going to add this into the thread, but everytime you share details of WoF's unique domestic…
CCTV's CPOP (CPOPwave) is a launched by C Gov to promote Chinese pop culture IPs overseas. It aims to focus on and promote Chinese cultural works that have achieved outstanding results overseas in the past two years. This series of events showcases 20 representative Chinese pop culture IPs, including film and television dramas, novels, games, animations, and designer toys. List of previous CPOP winner: The Wandering Earth, Black Myth Wukong, Labubu, Till the end the moon (Top 1), Honor of Kings (game).
Following the footsteps of Mango & Migu’s big satisfaction thank-you ads weeks past the SLY finale, SLY peripheral brand KOOCI is giving SLY a big “thank you” ad at Beijing Airport for 31 straight days, spotlighting Tang Li Ci. First time ever for a drama peripheral brand.
SLY merch has already hit nearly 19M in sales by Dec 12, and is on track to smash 21M soon. SLY merchandise prices are much higher than Ttoetm’s—some of them don’t make sense—but drama fans keep buying, meaning KOOCI and the producers are cashing in big on ROI (we know it costs dirt cheap to make these in China 😂).
Alipay SLY drama co-branding skin collaboration sales are also the highest in TV drama history, selling 180,000 (each ID min 18yrs old only allowed 1 purchase). The other dramas they’ve ever done the same level of collaboration are Joy of Life and Empress in the Palace. Alipay and other collaborative SLY brand sent flowers for SLY concert today.
As for the concert: yesterday, at the last minute, they added “poor visibility” seats for sale 😂 (yes, they noted these are POOR visibility seats)—clearly to max out the 18,000 capacities. This concert counts as two huge concerts already. IMO, a drama concert above 5,000 seats is already huge….
Firstly, I appreciate @Yulsa for sharing this insightful article, which I encourage everyone to take a look at.…
I’ve read this before, and her take on SLY was deep and really enjoyable to read. Other than Liu Yan and ZCJ, the way she looked at Xi Fang Tao was also interesting. And then there’s LYX. He’s not afraid to take on tough roles—characters like Tan Tai Jin and Tang Li Ci, who could easily be disliked if not played carefully. But LYX brings his intelligence and a real understanding of human nature to portray them, turning these complicated grey characters into ones the audience can love and admire. From Runyu to Tang Li Ci, with every complex character, his acting keeps getting better and more powerful.
I saw a few more good reviews by movie blogger on Weibo unfortunately I don’t have the habit of saving them.
Data Queen Kwanto is always here to wreck haters!!
In the last few episodes, every scene featuring TLC and GMD has been intense and a true powerhouse of acting , setting a high bar for costume dramas. To match that level of intensity, you need a really good actor paired with a veteran actor like Hu Jun. These 2 characters scenes are some of my fav in SLY.
Excited for concert tomorrow, no news about live broadcast so I think we just need to rely on fans. Too bad no Chi Yun Puppy, he is so lively on Variety Show and a former idol too.
Something funny, Xinhua news posted many SLY achievements, one of them calling SLY Douban rating 8.4. I think it meant to be IMDB , but if CCP newspaper DOES NOT want to recognize Domestic Haters rating and put IMDB rating and calling it Douban rating instead 🤣🤣🤣 …..which is back to 8.4 after haters downrating it TWICE repeat TWICE from 9.2 to 7.6 and then later 8.6 to 7.9 again now back to 8.4
Haters who want to protest can go to police station to protest?🤣
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I'm watching on Qiyi, tried Mango and gave up 😂
Never know there are comment sections for reviews....Amazing review, I have read it 3x now....Thank you for letting me appreciate SLY on deeper level.
https://kisskh.at/profile/Xiang83/review/519762
This is a really amazing review. What makes it stand out is how she delved deeper, going beyond surface-level reactions. It explores the cultural, philosophical, and artistic layers of the show with real thought and surgical precision.
I especially like how you highlight the story through both Chinese traditions and Western structures, showing how the drama bridges the two. Your review explains Tang Lici’s journey through the interplay of shūnyatā and karuna. That idea of compassion born from understanding emptiness makes the ending even more beautiful.
Tang Lici is one of the most unique and impressive characters in recent years.
This type of review set an example how one can appreciate SLY on deeper level.
But imo maybe in the next few years, all the IP they have now is romance drama and LYX has not selected any romance drama for some years.
https://kisskh.at/discussions/755725-shui-long-yin/146454-group-collective-contributions-details-trivia-insights-across-40-episodes-of-whispers-of-fate
Tan Tai Jin found love, even if in my opinion it was one-sided. He had his guardian Ming Ye and his master, who loved him unconditionally. Viewers were given many scenes of TTJ’s backstory, allowing us to empathize with his suffering from childhood to adulthood. At the end he said:
“My life has been so hard, let me end this life.”
TTJ’s expression during his sacrifice showed how painful and tired he was from his difficult life. There was a lot of sadness, but also relief that everything would be over soon and the world he loved would avoid calamity.
Tang Li Ci’s young backstory was severely cut, so we didn’t see enough of the even more sinister things he was forced to do during childhood.
TLC did have four years of happy memories during ZDL, and later many people supported him wholeheartedly—especially Shen Lang Hun, Chi Yun, Master Zhao, Bai Nan Zhu, Shui Do Po, Gu Xi Tan, Shao Ya Pin and others. He also finally realized he had a mother who loved him deeply.
Tang Li Ci’s last expression was:
“I was not ready to leave this world, but I know this is what I must do. I loved all my friends and this world, and even though I am reluctant, I must do it.”
Two self-sacrificial acts, done differently. This is the exceptional quality of LYX’s acting.
I want to highlight the last moment—the difference between Tan Tai Jin and Tang Li Ci.
"Luo Yunxi possesses the compassion of a strong person." This is very Chu Wanning, Tan Tai Jin and Tang Li Ci
"Actors are the paintbrush of the script. Even the best story requires actors to deeply understand its core to move the audience. Luo Yunxi's conviction as an actor, his understanding of the character, and the quality of his performance are sufficient to handle the complex role. Having worked with him before, I know his performances are very empathetic, his understanding of the character is very clear, and his action scenes are excellent. I know what kind of roles will excite him and what kind of effect he can achieve, which is why we're collaborating for the third time."
While TTOETM is more friendly for international audience.
List of previous CPOP winner: The Wandering Earth, Black Myth Wukong, Labubu, Till the end the moon (Top 1), Honor of Kings (game).
Only when your IP is really successful you will be nominated, just need to look at these examples to get an idea the real data of SLY.
https://m.yangshipin.cn/portrait_video?vid=d0000248jl3&ptag=4_3.2.1.23718_sina (vid of SLY nomination)
Following the footsteps of Mango & Migu’s big satisfaction thank-you ads weeks past the SLY finale, SLY peripheral brand KOOCI is giving SLY a big “thank you” ad at Beijing Airport for 31 straight days, spotlighting Tang Li Ci. First time ever for a drama peripheral brand.
SLY merch has already hit nearly 19M in sales by Dec 12, and is on track to smash 21M soon. SLY merchandise prices are much higher than Ttoetm’s—some of them don’t make sense—but drama fans keep buying, meaning KOOCI and the producers are cashing in big on ROI (we know it costs dirt cheap to make these in China 😂).
Alipay SLY drama co-branding skin collaboration sales are also the highest in TV drama history, selling 180,000 (each ID min 18yrs old only allowed 1 purchase). The other dramas they’ve ever done the same level of collaboration are Joy of Life and Empress in the Palace. Alipay and other collaborative SLY brand sent flowers for SLY concert today.
As for the concert: yesterday, at the last minute, they added “poor visibility” seats for sale 😂 (yes, they noted these are POOR visibility seats)—clearly to max out the 18,000 capacities. This concert counts as two huge concerts already.
IMO, a drama concert above 5,000 seats is already huge….
And then there’s LYX. He’s not afraid to take on tough roles—characters like Tan Tai Jin and Tang Li Ci, who could easily be disliked if not played carefully. But LYX brings his intelligence and a real understanding of human nature to portray them, turning these complicated grey characters into ones the audience can love and admire.
From Runyu to Tang Li Ci, with every complex character, his acting keeps getting better and more powerful.
I saw a few more good reviews by movie blogger on Weibo unfortunately I don’t have the habit of saving them.
Haters who want to protest can go to police station to protest?🤣