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LMAO. Didn't I say earlier that YXY was damn lucky her actions didn't lead to any difference in what happened at Sheng Palace, and so she was damn lucky not once but twice. 1) for not affecting the outcome in any manner and 2) that TTJ let it go, one reason for which was also very much tied to 1).

And I don't care or love her character enough to keep going. Anyway, keep the fan-hate going. The script at least will give her a third immortal arc that the novel didn't.

So good that all the haters can complain and moan more about her screentime.

This comment section is filled with YBC hate. A few people make comments about her motivations which doesn't satisfy your hate, and if you want to sub-comment you could've done it without referring to others' perception as dumb.

You can't even take a few people, just a few, discussing her character, without hating her, and you feel the need to sub-comment and call those takes dumb.

Goes to show how much it bothers you, actually.

And anyway, back to what I said. Survival is her main goal because she has seen from the beginning how important status is. She doesn't understand the relationship between YXW/TTJ, she's not been there to see their interactions like the soldiers, her brother, etc.

And 2) to her, YXW was someone cruel to her, so she has no sense of loyalty to her. She has no clue it's not YXW and just because YXW has turned over some new leaf for the past few months, there is no guarantee that YXW won't try to do some shit to YBC again. Why the eff should risk her chances with YXW, rather than trying to curry favor herself?

Obviously she fails. That's a given. But all people were doing were giving some background to why she's the way she is. A few people. A few comments. And instead of going on and making a long comment on why you feel she's not only about survival, you had to make sure to say those people's takes were dumb.

Guess what, self-survival means being selfish. That's a given. So I for one, have said many times she's selfish. That's not something the people giving dumb takes are ignoring or don't know. Being selfish and being about survival are not are not exclusive. Nor is seeking power or proximity to power in order to survive (selfishly).

1) Listen, I don't go around calling others' takes dumb even when I see dumbass speculations, questions or comments.

2) WhyTF should she go back to Ye Mansion? What you base your whole 'dumb' rebuttal ignores the very thing people have been saying. The bullshit projection of a good loving family with the grandmother saying she misses YBC when till now not one thought was expanded to her.

She wasn't innocent in the beginning (because I know that will be brought up) but everything she does is her survival instinct. And to be honest, only really despicable thing she did was with the maid. Everything else is simply navigating in the world, taking opportunities, and trying to be shrewd in political strife.

She herself told TTJ she's doing all trying to survive. I don't love her or anything, but I don't hate her either. But it does annoy me that everyone's just supposed to forget and ignore how horrible Ye family were. TTJ was treated badly for what, some months by them? She grew up there and was always shown her place by YXW and the grandmother who's somehow supposed to resonate with the audience in the 'loving family scenes.' Unlike TTJ, she had access to her emotions while being treated that way.

I haven't read the novel though have followed the comments and discussion threads giving info about novel storyline. And I know the reviews of the novel you're talking about. I would say I think the drama is much better and most of the issues in the novel aren't really found in the drama.

TTJ himself said to Xiao Lin that he knows XL is not going to kill him. Which is why XL asked for a withdrawal.

It's a continuation from the previous episode. He said he would make her the royal maid and she could sleep on the floor in his room, she said she likes her bed rather than the floor. So he said he will put a bed on the floor in her room for him.

Yeah. And today, again the family are showed in loving scenes without any acknowledgment of how she was treated. What? Grandma is such a nice, old lady asking about her YBC--as if she didn't make sure to remind YBC of her place and never to think of more.

It's in the writing too. They tell us how she was treated by the Ye family, but the family are there pretending to be angels in asking about her and wanting to see her.

It's a weak point of the screenplay, where it only brings up the family's behavior when it needs to be done, but audience is supposed to ignore it when it comes to her. Even YXW/Su-su ignores it at her will.

I agree. Either it's her acting or how she's directed to act. I think it should be better, but the novel has her written out as a villain so they somewhat follow that as well to give fans their hate-vessel.

It was told, though. It was only shown a little bit, but it was told. I don't think the problem is so much that there's no back story. It's that for some bizarre reason everyone is just supposed to ignore how horrible the Ye family were, with some mentions here and there but still showing loving family scenes with no sense of irony. I feel like it's the one draw, fault of the show/script.

Like even though it was the emperor decided on her concubine title, her family didn't bother to object and even if they couldn't object, they didn't prepare her for it beforehand. From what I remember her grandmother was in discussions before the public announcement. Her grandmother looked at her in this sort of gleeful victory as if she were put in her place.

He only needs to feel jealousy and betrayal because her actions didn't hinder him, his troops, or his battle. XL showed up after he was already done. She is damn lucky that her prejudiced actions didn't amount to any loss or have any effect on what happened at Sheng Palace.

YXW/SuSu checked to see if XL was okay, and then actually took the time to contemplate and decide to tell XL valuable information. It is possible he would've figured out the info just by her being there, but the fact that she told him shows that her reasons for doing so was because of her prejudiced bias for Sheng.

Her telling XL really had nothing to do with her mission or goal. If XL had caught up to TTJ, what is she preventing or stopping? She wasn't going to be there to see, stop or calm any fight, battle, injury, or death between the two.

She herself told XL that this would be Sheng's last battalion to fall--and that they used to follow her "father." She was acting out of allegiance, loyalty to Sheng--ignoring the fact that her "brother" defected, and her "father" who disowned the "brother" didn't deny help or refuge that came with her "brother's" defection.

It's why in the script, she is the one that had to apologize and apologize for her prejudice, and not TTJ. Because she indeed was wrong, and she both was lucky and got off lightly. Her actions were one that if they had affected the outcome in anyway would have let down the people, the same people whom she overheard blaming Sheng Emperor for war and hardships and were hopeful of Jin Kingdom treating them better.

Her actions didn't have an effect on the outcome. Everything that happened at the Sheng Palace nothing to do with her interference and he was finished by the time XL came (quicker than expected). So he was only reacting regarding her betrayal.

You're not the only one. There are few who've made similar points as yours. But she's gonna be hated by fans so whatever. I don't even think she's written in a way to be hated, though somewhat bland/boring but at least on the show she seems to be given better treatment so far than what I've read about the novel.

Anyway, I think the show writes her pretty tame in that her scheme in the latest episodes don't last long and are shot down. And I do think her portrayal/direction lacks some sort of depth and determination, though not necessarily the writing.

Female: All over the word, besides Ye Xiwu
Male: there's actually no one I care about.

Seems like an editing/dubbing mishap?

In episode 21, as TTJ is coming out of the entrance on horseback, what were those female and male voiceovers? Will put the subtitles in spoiler below.

He provoked her once he found out she went to XL and told him military info. He wouldn't have answered her in that manner or provoked her had she not done that. The point is there is no reason for her to have gone and told XL when and how TTJ set off. She went there to check on him, okay. But she thought, contemplated, and decided to tell him. If she had kept quiet, maybe he would've still figured it out, but that's not what happened. She gave him the exact information.

Why? This issue doesn't have to do with preventing him from being devil-god. What was she trying to do? Prevent TTJ's death? Prevent XL's death? How? Because she's not there and she couldn't know what would happen if/when TTJ and XL met up at Sheng.

No she did it only to save Sheng Kingdom, their last regiment of soldiers. Soldiers that that once followed her "father."

She's forgetting that he "brother" joined Jin for a reason, and her "father" even if he disowned her "brother" had no qualms of accepting TTJ's help and refuge along with his family.

Furthermore, she herself heard and knows the people of the kingdom talk and blame the Sheng Emperor and that Jin isn't a bad place under TTJ's rule. Yet, she just doesn't want final defeat of Sheng Kingdom, and trying to give Sheng a heads up.

Anyway, it is already resolved, but what what she did was needless.

It's not the matter of watching TTJ murder her family. What she did had nothing to do with that. She knew the situation and what people outside the Sheng Palace were saying about Sheng Emperor and the war. And she did what she did because of her own egotistical beliefs on who is good and bad. Not even thinking about her brother she keeps saying she views as her family along with the horrible family of YXY that she feels so much love for.

She in essence didn't think about or care about the people of the Sheng and Jin Kingdoms, only her own reasons and prejudiced thoughts.

I have no problem with her tricking him in love an betraying him. But getting involved in this battle/war like this is absolutely wrong on her part.

I haven't even finished watching, and seriously what she did annoys the hell out of me. But in a way like I said, that is how immortals act (Sheng Kingdom cultivates with their immortal sects, so they must be the ones protected) so it's not surprising.

Once again, why I say I love the drama and it's a better well rounded product than just having TTJ the mortal as some evil personified person. Okay, that's good for those who want to read a genre, as an overall story it's the drama that's much more rounded.