Finally marathoned the last 4 eps!! Thoughts:Ep 33:Awww, you say you can't speak well, HZ, but that thank-you…
In the beginning when HZ chased MuYan he told Chilan that the person with the scarred mask has no scent. Quite a few times, MuYan or Ah Zhi were able to cover their scent when visiting the jail. So it's possible that MuYan blocked his scent, and then found some way to keep the real CP's scent with him whenever he was putting on that persona/mask.
As for how he practiced. He was also going around with the mask doing Qi stuff. So he probably kept in shape in his down and alone time.
I think Han Zheng is still a Qi person, but he just lost his powers because he gave them to Jiu Er to save her,…
I don't think she's Qi. Was it said she was? Because that would be a dangerous thing. Imagine if Qian decided to become Qi by harvesting full stone (though it seems it need consent from the Qi). I think it's more like she has his powers for a long time, perhaps slowing down her aging and allowing her to live longer.
This is why I don't know if there's anything that can beat LBFD. Because in this world they gave the perspective of both sides and didn't just deem the non-heavenly realm the bad guys.
This isn't the case with TSL from what I watched and then kind of checked in on the comments on the page. Like, the bride swap was just for Ye Tan dealing with the Heavenly Realm. Sure she deals with the hypocrisy in the heavenly realm, but there is nothing where QK on other side accepts the Void realm and their antagonism as valid. The story itself doesn't portray it that way with the VR being one who has valid reasons, but rather portray population as decent, and certain people in VR as being better rulers or possible rulers than the current and previous ones
(They do give another character a legitimate reason to go all out in anger and revenge, but even that is supposed to be brushed over and forgotten, and making them a villain.)
And they show Ye Tan was a fan of Void Realm and knew all their history in an out. Which is like, she wasn't a bad person from the start---so if she admired the Void Realm and rooted for them, even mourning those slain by HE, what does that say? But it's not really dealt with or the focus of the story. Instead, in LBFD we see the legitimate reasons for Moon Realm to want to fight the Heavenly Realm for their own protection.
I actually thought the bride swap was very engaging. But the reasons I can't compare the two is because LBFD really had the other realm's grievances be valid. Like, the FL realizes and even says she doesn't blame the Moon Realm or even DFQC for what he has to do. Just that she hopes and wants the cycle to not keep repeating.
When HZ was held in the cave by the Marquis, I kept thinking how CP could be behind it if he didn't account for the fact that HZ and JE may still be connected with the Qi stone. He was told she'd taken it before, for him not to think of that possibility that she may still be taking it seemed off to me and so I wondered if it wasn't CP.
I had the same question when CP-not-yet-revealed-as-MY pushed JE off the cliff, why he doesn't consider the possibility of qi-stone connection, especially since if he cared enough to investigate, he would've found out that was how HZ was saved from the Marquis confinement
But after the reveal CP was Mu Yan it made sense because Mu Yan never wanted HZ to be killed, he was doing it to expose and bring down Marquis and the Qi stone trade. However, it is an oversight that CP/MY didn't take that into account when he pushed JE over the cliff. (Though before that the show always showed that HZ sees JE's dreams not simply sensed her any time,but I guess when she was sleeping after being knocked out he would have seen her then).
I was also thinking how stupid they (HZ and JE) could be for not putting together that her touching HZ had to do with not feeling the effects of being poisoned. But I wish they could've shown exactly what conclusion they came to, because I don't think they would've realized the ember was in her till she talked to the CP--just that the same way he can warm her, she may have some effect to that as well.
MY mentioned that he was the one who trained HZ and CL, so it makes sense that he's a lot stronger. However, I…
Yes, but HZ had said many times he can defeat everyone in the ceremony when he gets back (he of course wasn't including Mu Yan and never really wanted or thought of defeating Mu Yan) so it gave the impression that he would be the strongest. Any according to who is ML, either the student surpasses or outsmarts the antagonist teacher or teacher does so to the student. So I just found it nice that it wasn't the case here.
They said the antidote is a flower that grows in Shubei, but doesn't grow anymore. So how was Physician Qin able…
Curious, what is it? I haven't finished but by the time I read the reply I probably will. I also read the spoilers, and saw your discussion about harvesting stone---but you write that it's really not so much a loophole since the Marquis already said it makes the Qi weak and without power, and plus mentions it can heal and reharvest.
I have to say, I do like the fact that in the fight with Mu Yan at the tombstone (haven't seen the full last episode yet, so don't know if it's the last fight) he really was more powerful than them all. Too many times in asian dramas I see the ML be the best at everything, most powerful, or what not. But it took the three of them, then the two of them to fight Mu Yan. Han Zheng only overpowered him at that point because Chillan had injured Muyan by stabbing him straight into the Qi Stone.
Also, don't know if it's acknowledged, but the FL's father, though his actions invertedly saved the two kingdoms, his reasons were selfish and did it for own reasons and didn't give what it would do to the state of the two Kingdoms, let alone what it would do for Qi's survival. Very rarely do you see FL's beloved deceased family she remembers fondly end up being not the best, righteous person they were thought to be by FL. But then again, I doubt that Su's actions are dwelt on much in the last episode and since it ultimately saved the two kingdoms from war, it won't really be seen as a bad thing.
Haven't finished the last episode, but I have a question.
They said the antidote is a flower that grows in Shubei, but doesn't grow anymore. So how was Physician Qin able to give an antidote they thought worked, till they found out it didn't...then figured out it was mutated?
I like the plot. Will continue watching it. Now the ranting, for the love of God, Cdramas, can we stop making…
I like this drama, but the chemistry doesn't translate on screen due to I guess the FL and what you've described above. It's the story and the fact that Qi/wolves mate for life that make this pairing believable. He comes across a girl who he has some kind of connection to, and she is a capable, smart investigator. So he likes her due to proximity and their connection. From there, that's it, he's of course going to be about her for life.
She is supposed to be sick, yeah. That made sense in the earlier episodes, but not how silly, girly expressions, actions etc etc.
KeYunCha could do nothing else than what he did. Like, there is no way he could live a free life and wait around for evidence of rape and conviction. while her father is imprisoned for murder and attempted murder.
What actually happpened to Liz Ri and why does Dal think it is her fault?. Has it already been mentioned and somehow…
I think something concerning the production of the album. Liz Ri wasn't comfortable with some of the choices and Dal encouraged saying it's needed. Liz Ri got backlash, leading to the suicide, and Dal blames herself. I *think* this is what happened. I could be misremembering, it was within the first two episodes.
At ep22 now, and the ML is seriously getting on my nerves. Always arrogant, always blowing his temper for nothing,…
I've only finished upto 20. But one of the reasons he's so angry is at how his people are treated. The Qian basically used Qi to secure their safety from constant warfare and then kept delaying the promised treaty in exchange for the Qi help, thereby not giving Qi rights and treating them poorly though the Qi did their part to have the right to work and live in Qian.
So to him it's not as much as demanding adherence in a different country, but anger at their failure to uphold and treat Qi with the needed respect they earned and deserve. To him, the Qi are part of the reason Qian can live peacefully and yet they demean and ill-treat Qi.
There seems to be this thought by some that those who didn't like the outcome of the thriller aspect for some reason didn't catch the clues from the first episode itself. Many did, it's just that people hoped the show wouldn't be so stupid enough to go that route and rather was using it as a red herring.
Anyway if I had continued watching I would have have some issues with the romance plot holes as well which I didn't bother talking about since I didn't the second half of the show. But I will say it now.
It made little sense for the ML to not ever once mention or ask about the "husband" once scandal broke out, and especially after he made his announcement. It also made very little sense for him to do what he did with little regards to her situation. He didn't need to go that far to protect her, and really no upstanding man would put something like that out there and put the woman in such an awkward position in her personal life.
I gave it the chance that he was aware of the true situation, but it seems not to be the case. So if it wasn't the case, the romance was not written well and were just plot points which made little sense in terms of characterization,
As for how he practiced. He was also going around with the mask doing Qi stuff. So he probably kept in shape in his down and alone time.
(They do give another character a legitimate reason to go all out in anger and revenge, but even that is supposed to be brushed over and forgotten, and making them a villain.)
And they show Ye Tan was a fan of Void Realm and knew all their history in an out. Which is like, she wasn't a bad person from the start---so if she admired the Void Realm and rooted for them, even mourning those slain by HE, what does that say? But it's not really dealt with or the focus of the story. Instead, in LBFD we see the legitimate reasons for Moon Realm to want to fight the Heavenly Realm for their own protection.
I had the same question when CP-not-yet-revealed-as-MY pushed JE off the cliff, why he doesn't consider the possibility of qi-stone connection, especially since if he cared enough to investigate, he would've found out that was how HZ was saved from the Marquis confinement
But after the reveal CP was Mu Yan it made sense because Mu Yan never wanted HZ to be killed, he was doing it to expose and bring down Marquis and the Qi stone trade. However, it is an oversight that CP/MY didn't take that into account when he pushed JE over the cliff. (Though before that the show always showed that HZ sees JE's dreams not simply sensed her any time,but I guess when she was sleeping after being knocked out he would have seen her then).
I was also thinking how stupid they (HZ and JE) could be for not putting together that her touching HZ had to do with not feeling the effects of being poisoned. But I wish they could've shown exactly what conclusion they came to, because I don't think they would've realized the ember was in her till she talked to the CP--just that the same way he can warm her, she may have some effect to that as well.
Also, don't know if it's acknowledged, but the FL's father, though his actions invertedly saved the two kingdoms, his reasons were selfish and did it for own reasons and didn't give what it would do to the state of the two Kingdoms, let alone what it would do for Qi's survival. Very rarely do you see FL's beloved deceased family she remembers fondly end up being not the best, righteous person they were thought to be by FL. But then again, I doubt that Su's actions are dwelt on much in the last episode and since it ultimately saved the two kingdoms from war, it won't really be seen as a bad thing.
She is supposed to be sick, yeah. That made sense in the earlier episodes, but not how silly, girly expressions, actions etc etc.
Also ML overdoes his constant smirky huff.
So to him it's not as much as demanding adherence in a different country, but anger at their failure to uphold and treat Qi with the needed respect they earned and deserve. To him, the Qi are part of the reason Qian can live peacefully and yet they demean and ill-treat Qi.
Anyway if I had continued watching I would have have some issues with the romance plot holes as well which I didn't bother talking about since I didn't the second half of the show. But I will say it now.
It made little sense for the ML to not ever once mention or ask about the "husband" once scandal broke out, and especially after he made his announcement. It also made very little sense for him to do what he did with little regards to her situation. He didn't need to go that far to protect her, and really no upstanding man would put something like that out there and put the woman in such an awkward position in her personal life.
I gave it the chance that he was aware of the true situation, but it seems not to be the case. So if it wasn't the case, the romance was not written well and were just plot points which made little sense in terms of characterization,