NN is really starting to annoy me. She doesn’t get the she is naive and hasn’t had training pass anymore. LBY has been pouring his heart and soul into her and she’s just so arrogant and uncaring about him. She didn’t grow up in the palace so she couldn’t possibly know as much as LBY who has spent a lifetime there. It’s not about her smarts - she needs to get over that complex - it’s that he can’t explain and entire lifetime of palace intrigue to her. She should just trust him but she acts like she is such a smart problem solver and ends up leaving the cleanup to LBY. If you can’t handle the mess you create then don’t make it.
I’m starting to feel that it may be well-deserved for LBY to choose his revenge over her and leave her. I mean who wouldn’t with someone so ungrateful and callous. I just don’t buy that she has any feelings for him and then when she starts comparing him to that weak Lou Yao…. I watched the next few trailers and it just makes me really annoyed with her. I think he needs to leave her so she can finally understand what a great man she had and how she so neglected and mistreated him. I mean, he even deceived the emperor for her! LBY would never do that and yet he did it. Sold out years of trust built with the emperor all to save NN from her own stupidity. She is so damn annoying now. I am looking forward to their breakup. I hope she suffers more than him.
And no this is not a spoiler so let’s not even go there. If you don’t know this basic premise about the story that is plastered everywhere then it’s on you.
For people who are not satisfied with the ending, the movie doesn't really end like that. You have to skip like…
Oh wow, thank you for that! I went back and watched the post credit ending thanks to your comment! Still not satisfied because I feel it was unfair but I’ll take what I can get.
I loved the movie but the ending bothered me so much. Why does the law always seem to favor the bullies?? It just seems unfair. WTF. And what exactly happens to them. Ugh. Just made me angry. Four years for her seems WAY to high. All her efforts for the college exam and a bright future just went down the tube. All because of that bully. She deserved to die. I disagree that all lives are precious. They’re not. If you harm others and make them suffer you deserve a worst punishment than them. That girl deserved a worst death. And the police officers acting like they’re so big and mighty upholding justice, where were they and where was the law when the bullying killed the first girl, when the bullying led to so much misery for others? Trying to put these innocent kids in jail for doing a job they couldn’t do. WTH. I particularly hated that police woman. Hope hee unborn child gets bullied so she understands how the victims feel. The bullies all seemed to go along with their lives completely unaffected. I wish the ending felt more fair and just. I’m just mad about it.
But props to Jackson Yee and Zhou Dongyu. For Jackson Yee to hold his own against a seasoned actress like ZDY… that was great. Like I said, I loved the movie, just didn’t love the ending.
It would be nice if we could see him in a rom-com, especially paired with Zhao Lusi. It’ll be fun to see him do comedy - break up his cold image a bit - and with Zhao Lusi I think it’ll be hit
I wonder what is going on with WYB. Haven’t heard much about the release of his new dramas or movies. Kind of miss him on Day Day Up. At least then I could see him weekly.
Just finished this and I have to admit, this is a well-made drama. The acting, the directing and writing were all solid. I also like that the story was mature and realistic. No toxic, backstabbing, misunderstanding type nonsense. Just a simple sweet story about a relationship from beginning to “end” (but not really and end because we all know they continue on happily ever after).
I heard he is a real piece of S* the way he treats his actors, the way he controls them and barely pays them for their work and who knows what other crazy bs. That’s what I read in the various online sites.
I wish people would stop spoiling with what they read in the novel. Reading the novel is not a prerequisite to watching this drama. I’d like to enjoy the drama for what it is. Besides, I heard they’re not going to follow the novel closely anyway.
The acting is great, their chemistry is great, love the characters but I didn’t think it’d have so much politics. I wish they could have just kept it a wu xia only drama. Too much political machinations and politics. The main leads barely get any screen time together after the first couple of episodes. The story struggles to find a reason to put the leads together and the reason is pretty thin because they live in totally different realities. Also, not as much martial arts and fighting scenes as I thought, and not much romance either. It’s about 85% palace intrigue and your typical fight for the throne storyline. Disappointed with the story and it is still pretty good and the dialogue is witty. I just wish the leads had more screen time because when they are onscreen their characters really sizzle. It’s worth watching for sure and it’s good, and having Zhao Lusi and Yang Yang as leads really help. Just wish there were less evil political plots.
I think this drama may be more meaningful for slightly older viewers. To me, this drama is about human relationships, the love and respect you can have for each other that is completely platonic, the love and respect you should have for yourself, the loneliness that everyone feels and how devastating that can be, but how despite everything the people we know and care about can also be the people who lead to our salvation to allow us to heal ourselves and continue on despite life’s hardships and disappointments. I think if you try to watch this drama for some type of romance you’ll be disappointed because that’s not the main point of this drama.
I rewatch this drama every year or so and each time I learned something new or am revived of life lessons. So to me, this is one of the best Kdramas. Great acting and story and plot all around. Much better than the very many cute and formulaic romance stories. Fluffy romances can be fun but it’s great to have meaningful life-affirming dramas like this.
help to anyone who remembers cause i suddenly forgot... did donghun and his wife continue their marriage or did…
They didn’t get a divorce. They are clearly separated but in the last cafe scene DH tells his friend that his wife will stay in the US with their son until he goes to college - so probably another 4 years. Also, based on his personality and his love for his mom he probably won’t get a divorce and disrupt the family dynamic. That was why he didn’t want anyone to know in the first place - bc of his mom.
Ahn Hyo Seop looks like he is in for only Ep 1. I hope the writers don’t make Woo Jin and Eun Jae break up. I’d be so sad if they did. I don’t see Lee Sung Kyung cast yet so I wonder what the implication of their story will be. I hope they had a happy ending.
-------------X Fireroom:"There are secrets that cannot be said. Do you understand? Hope you all can understand,…
I agree. I think there is more to the story than what is publicly released. It’s the government, I don’t 100% trust things government say. I support DL.
I’m starting to feel that it may be well-deserved for LBY to choose his revenge over her and leave her. I mean who wouldn’t with someone so ungrateful and callous. I just don’t buy that she has any feelings for him and then when she starts comparing him to that weak Lou Yao…. I watched the next few trailers and it just makes me really annoyed with her. I think he needs to leave her so she can finally understand what a great man she had and how she so neglected and mistreated him. I mean, he even deceived the emperor for her! LBY would never do that and yet he did it. Sold out years of trust built with the emperor all to save NN from her own stupidity. She is so damn annoying now. I am looking forward to their breakup. I hope she suffers more than him.
And no this is not a spoiler so let’s not even go there. If you don’t know this basic premise about the story that is plastered everywhere then it’s on you.
But props to Jackson Yee and Zhou Dongyu. For Jackson Yee to hold his own against a seasoned actress like ZDY… that was great. Like I said, I loved the movie, just didn’t love the ending.
I rewatch this drama every year or so and each time I learned something new or am revived of life lessons. So to me, this is one of the best Kdramas. Great acting and story and plot all around. Much better than the very many cute and formulaic romance stories. Fluffy romances can be fun but it’s great to have meaningful life-affirming dramas like this.