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Replying to eliteles1 • Oct 19, 2024
Title Kill Me Love Me Spoiler
That's right!:⬇️"but a partnership where both characters are just as whipped and downbad for each other."
I was interested in that one as the face swapping seemed really intriguing but judging from the comments/reviews it seems they were 99% touting the ML and his utter devotion and love for the FL and not so much the other way around so I put it in the back burner.
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Replying to mmansaray35 • Oct 19, 2024
Title Kill Me Love Me Spoiler
It's really good so far. It's a very mature relationship. Here's a quick summary for you based on the 13 episodes…
I'll have to see for myself but I think that's just now the lingo to describe male leads in romantic shows and it has kind of lost all meaning. A lot of the time though the description seems apt because cdramas really love a deeply devoted madly in love ML and it's not reciprocated from the FL most of the time hence the term "loserism" seems appropriate.
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Replying to mmansaray35 • Oct 19, 2024
Title Kill Me Love Me Spoiler
It's really good so far. It's a very mature relationship. Here's a quick summary for you based on the 13 episodes…
I appreciate it, and I agree a lot of people only watch from the lens of what the ML is doing in terms of romance but in their defense in most cases, the writing is what's fueling that and the relationship is intrinsically built on him being a "simp" without much reciprocation.
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Replying to eliteles1 • Oct 19, 2024
That's right!:⬇️"but a partnership where both characters are just as whipped and downbad for each other."
Thank you that one looks great, any dramas that have already aired this year so I can binge watch them? I think the only one I recall from this year that had a mutually devoted otp is Blossoms of adversity.
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Replying to eliteles1 • Oct 19, 2024
That's right!:⬇️"but a partnership where both characters are just as whipped and downbad for each other."
That's reassuring, do you have any recommendations from this year that also fit this description? They seem to be a very rare commodity in cdramaland.
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Replying to mmansaray35 • Oct 19, 2024
Title Kill Me Love Me Spoiler
It's really good so far. It's a very mature relationship. Here's a quick summary for you based on the 13 episodes…
Thank you for the detailed explanation, I skimmed the comments and they did not inspire confidence with all the " the ML is getting a degree in looserim " statements. And with the track record of cdramas and how they portray romantic relationships in most instances, I was afraid it was more of the same.
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On Kill Me Love Me • Oct 19, 2024
How's this so far? I don't really want to watch another loser by himself ML for the 50th time but a partnership where both characters are just as whipped and downbad for each other.
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess • Oct 13, 2024
Yes it is; it rewards the patient and open minded viewer and besides one arc, its superbly well written.
Oh no, I had high hopes from the descriptions and trailers for Ning and Snowy night that they'd give us equal relationships... KMLV sounds great from the book but the trailer makes it seem like they rewrote it to give the exact same thing every romance did in 2024.
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess • Oct 13, 2024
Yes it is; it rewards the patient and open minded viewer and besides one arc, its superbly well written.
I'm excited to watch it, I haven't been able to watch much of anything lately. There's a lot of high profile romance stuff airing/about to air (Snowy night, Ning, KMLM) and I'll wait until it ends as well as your reviews to see if they're well written and if the otps are well balanced (since I know from the discussions we've had you also care about that aspect) or it's the usual nonsense we've been getting this year.
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PeachBlossomGoddess • Oct 13, 2024
Despite the ending this actually sounds great, a well written drama that respects our intelligence and has complex politics and character dynamics? Yes please. Plus a relationship that's actually equal and devoted from both sides? Sign me up. I so miss intricately written political shows outside and inside the harem.
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Replying to eliteles1 • Oct 13, 2024
Title Kill Me Love Me Spoiler
But, to pass the censorship they improved his character and his story. And we can see this from the synopsis itself.He…
This actually sounds interesting and different from the usual cdrama dynamics but judging from the trailers I think they completely changed it to their usual shtick. He seems to be the one obsessed with her from the start while she seems to barely register him except for wanting to kill him.
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Replying to Yii • Oct 9, 2024
Sad
May I ask why or how she dies? Does it have anything to do with the ML or is it the usual "saving the world" stuff?
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On Sugar Dog Life • Sep 30, 2024
What a lovely, adorable show. Incredibly wholesome and low stakes but not devoid of substance.
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Replying to 11540093 • Sep 24, 2024
American procedurals also has it. The Castle, female lead tried to find a murder of her mother for many seasons.…
I like Castle but the difference is, for Kate that was slowly tickled out and took seasons to resolve. This is already resolved because they weren't planning/sure they would get a second season so that would mean any mystery relating to YS would just be new and added misery.
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess • Sep 8, 2024
Review Go East
Tyvm. If this trend continues, soon I will only watch male centric dramas. 😅😂
It did? Didn't it get an 8 on douban? Or is that just fans of the actors, which the fandom culture in China and the way it functions is so strange to me, they have so much influence and power.
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess • Sep 8, 2024
Review Go East
Tyvm. If this trend continues, soon I will only watch male centric dramas. 😅😂
It does, if it was mutual it wouldn't be a problem but they're on completely opposite ends of the spectrum so they both end up looking like dumbasses in different ways and like you said in this review, we don't even understand why these MLs are so infatuated in the first place which reiterates that it's not good or thoughtful writing, it's just something to check off because that's what fans want now or they get backlash.
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess • Sep 8, 2024
Review Go East
Tyvm. If this trend continues, soon I will only watch male centric dramas. 😅😂
Yup it's all very superficial like someone who doesn't comprehend feminism or that in fiction it boils down to well written complex and varied female characters and them caring about their love interests and being vulnerable does not diminish them. It's so funny because great ML is now dude who spends his time simping over the FL but a great FL is somehow the opposite...
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess • Sep 8, 2024
Review Go East
Tyvm. If this trend continues, soon I will only watch male centric dramas. 😅😂
Lol right? I love female centric dramas, I love romance and I want to watch both but they're making it really hard. They're making it seem as if it's impossible to write a female centric show without these weird insanely imbalanced relationships when it's been done successfully countless times, and most of the time it's such a disservice to the characters as well, because what they think comes off as "strong" is just embarrassing.
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PeachBlossomGoddess • Sep 8, 2024
Review Go East
Great review, it hits all the points I was wondering about in terms of if I wanted to watch the drama, the leads, the plot, the relationships, the acting...Also this "This is the latest in a disturbing trend of dramas where the female characters get a free pass for toxic behaviour towards male characters who pretty much just roll over and play dead. When did it become so unfashionable to have balanced relationships where men and women just treat each other well?" Perfectly sums up my issue with dramas the last couple of years (2024 especially).
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Replying to jwonair • Sep 7, 2024
Title Go East Spoiler
yes i agree with you gurl actually living in the wild for so long and manage to survive but she is too dumb to…
Yeah, I love costume dramas too but the writing quality is a huge problem but it seems a lot of Chinese audiences enjoy these kinds of dynamics maybe? Because anytime a FL does even 1% of what the ML is doing they say she's got love on the brain but the ML needs to be the picture of devotion ( I was discussing love's rebellion with someone and they mentioned the actress was worried they'd say her character had love on the brain when she's just doing the most normal basic stuff , this man literally dies for her twice and does a thousand other things). And unfortunately it's not just costume dramas, modern ones too, Amidst a snowstorm of love, will love in spring, you are my secret, love endures, as beautiful as you, my boss, men in love, our interpreter are just as bad in that department.
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