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It's similar with Su Hyeon and Da On and people wanting them to be together,. I feel like a lot of people focus on the good parts, the cute flashbacks, and kind of ignore all the fucked up shit that happened and how much of an impact it might have especially since Da On was influenced by them since his young age, when his personality was still forming. The time when he finally was able to start exploring himself at university he started to be isolated by these two.

I'm just here to remind people that Da On was groomed for 11 years by Jae Min, became co-dependant on a fucking unhealthy level. He lost his own identity and had no idea how he can even live without Jae Min. Jae Min was one of the few, if not the only truly good part (from his point of view) of his life since he was teenager. No, it's not lazy writing that he decided to meet Jae Min for the last time when he said he is leaving, even after all the shit with stabbing. Ever heard of victims of abuse lying to police about tripping, instead of telling the truth that they were beaten up? Or telling people that it was their fault they were abused, and that the abuser is not that bad? Them willingly going back over and over again?

Guys, 11 fucking years. and 6-7 of these years was literally just Jae Min in his life. Being there in every part of Da On's life. Just because the character makes a lot of frustrating choices that "normal" people cannot understand coz we would never do that, does not mean it's internally illogical for the character and is a sign of bad writing.

I mean he was groomed for 11 years... He is not changing in one day. I am sure he is still processing it all, probably in a massive denial too.

Did the docs have NO mental health concerns?? M fairly sure you cannot force someone to stay in the hospital by force. Maybe if he attempted suicide and was truly close to dying. Which was not the case here. At best they could direct him to a psychiatric consultation, but he can say no, and he for sure would.

i did post the screenshots on feeds when it happened, I do need to dig them out of my feeds hell tho 😅

Jae Min for sure would do more than Su Hyeon, coz he has less restrictions. no matter how much he would want to do, he is still scared of his family and would "stay in line" out of fear.
Only limits placed on Jae Min are the ones he placed on himself and we see he is kind of giving up of them too.

facts 💯. I don;t even need a green flag, just a normal dude 🤣🤣🤣🤣

as far as I see the drama, he was never sane 🤡

Seo In Guk does that to people. If he played Su Hyeon I might have been swayed 🤡😂😂

But I don't really see it as injustice. Like, if he is this dumb and easily manipulated, he does not deserve Da On anyway. Not only is he emotionally a raging child, he is also cognitively incompetent? Like damn.

And honestly... I fail to see how his character is interesting when he is the most cliche of them all with the "toxic oppa with anger issues and awful family" and the least charismatic with his emotional outburst full on toddler style. Maybe I'm just too old to see the appeal. Last time I liked this type of a bad boy child was when I was a young teen 😅

Well... Personally I like his chemistry with Seong Hyeon the most. And i actually adore the duality his character present. He is all happy green flag and smiling with Da On, but when he is facing Su Hyeon he truly looks like a mature, confident and collected adult facing a toddler. Su Hyeon with his behavior is literally the least charismatic of all the characters 🤡

I mean yeah, even most violent serial killers also grew up abused, sometimes even worse than their victims later in life. The "abuser but from healthy environment" is an EXTREMELY rare case. Realistically Jae Min did not do more than use already existing violent tendencies Su Hyeon already had. He would not be able to manipulate Seong Hyeon the same way.

For Su Hyeon? Mostly him leaving to US. I guess it's kind of obvious that Da On was the one good part of his life (looking at his family) and now he had to leave to US, and his mother convinced him this is the best option and everything will be fine. And then he comes back and finds out Da On still likes Jae Min, that he slept at Jae Min's place, that he hates him. He was already growing the anger and annoyed for 7 years when he was away and it just blew up when he met again the reason he had all these emotions he could not control in the first place.

As for Jae Min, I honestly think it's just how his brain works. While with Su Hyeon the environment might have a great impact on how violent he got, with Jae Min I think his environment actually tamed his. And if he grew up in a toxic environment like Su Hyeon... he probably be a serial killer by now 🥲

I’m pretty sure he’s only been violent like that one time < but this is factually incorrect. Pushing someone against the way to the point it hurts, grabbing someone's face with full force to the point of breaking skin, throwing hard object at someone with full force are all violent acts and he directed them against Da On. It's not like he was not using any physical force after that and just threatening him with words. And I would even go as far as using serious threats against someone (like saying you will kill the person the obviously like if they won't act the way you want them to act) is a form of violence. The whole "make out session" in episode 6? Violence and sexual assault.

Not one thing Su Hyeon did was for Da On's happiness, benefit. Every action he took in the present timeline hurt Da On. I honesty fail to see how he is redeemable. With him, his anger and possessiveness is always more important than anything else - Da On included. I mean he literally was planning to ruin the project Da On was working on, potentially harming his career long term. There was literally not one positive moment between them since he came back from US.

He was 100% convinced Da On liked Jae Min and if Jae Min forced him to choose (which Jae Min was strongly suggesting he would) Da On would cut all contact with Su Hyeon. So it literally was the case for him - I either keep him in as a friend and loose him completely. And they established quite well how dumb Su Hyeon is, when he did not even see that there is something going on between Da On and Seong Hyeon 😂

I also think they did hate each other far less in the past. They were for sure more civil, and it;s not like they had to work hard to pretend they are dating. Just saying they are and leaving together "to go on date" that they for sure did not have, was enough.

That's the thing tho, it was for me fully pronounced. Abuse is not just hitting someone. The fact every time he got annoyed,l he started to belittle Da On in the past and how he just lashed his frustrations on him, even tho he himself was the reason he was in that shitty position in the first place is emotional abuse.

Oh and I am totally in agreement Jae Min did not turn Su Hyeon into abusive fucked up asshole. He used what was already there. He saw Su Hyeon s tendencies and used then in his schemes. But they were already there.

Honest question to people who want Da On and Su Hyeon together: What exactly can Su Hyeon offer Da On as a partner? Coz I fail to see one positive thing going on between them.

And no, he was not this wholesome hot hyung in the past either. He was always "his anger first" and "Da On second" in his list of priorities. Episode 3 and the flashbacks is a great example - grabbing Da On by the arm with a full force and not letting him leave even when Da On says 2-3 times for him to let go. Or how he told Da On (more like yelled) that they are not on the same level, that he did not do anything for his sake and he should stop being delusional.

His anger issues and abuse is not something they can chat about and clear the situation. It will not change even if Jae Min is out of the picture. Jae Min did not turn him into shit. Jae Min saw the issues in Su Hyeon and used them. But the issues were already there.

Like guys, is him pinning him in library once truly enough for you to be like - yep, he is the one 🤡

I was on the mission when I was finishing The Best Thing... it also had way too many episodes

I'm 1005 happy for you 🤣 I wanted to love it till the end too. But I even had to force myself to watch that last episode. That said, the last scene? Amazing, And that sentence at the end? Really nice touch.

I literally have feeds open in one tab, and this comment section in the other all the time 🤣