Kate

I wish they were more... thoughtful with how they presented the husband's side of it...
It was hard for me to focus on all the deep and poetic moments when I kept being distracted by my own feelings and how bad I felt for the dude 😅

the timeline is they are 12 as kids, then its 12 years later when they start chatting online so they are 24, and then another 12 years later when they actually meet so 36 👍🏻

For me it was really obvious because of how caring and attentive the parents were. Inviting him to eat together, talking about going to Jeju as a family trip. We know Da Un was a neglected child, and while his parents do provide everything he needs financially, they do not give him love and emotional support. The morning scene in the kitchen was just too "perfect happy family" compared too what we knew about how he grew up.

They had 2 albums on 3 years, while he had while he had 5 projects as an actor in the same time. Yes, for me doing more jobs as actor than idol makes him more of an actor than idol.

Already wrote about how i have not seen Decibel, but i think that project os a first step into the right direction. Maybe start reading my replies and comprehend what's in them, coz I'm not going to rewrite the same thing 648474 times because you ignore it.

I dropped rookie historian coz the drama was not that good 👍🏻

Anyway, this convo is pointless on a while new level because you LITERALLY ignore 80% of things i say and i have yo restate them over and over again.

in pt1 it was about young boy kneeling in the rain crying in front of closed gate/door to the house, calling to his father. Ryang Eum was not in the flashback, he just stood next to Jang Hyun as he remembered.

She would not intentionally marry a bad person, but it's also established she is awful at reading people, their character ans motivations.

And we know he is in fact not a good person because he used her sick father to lure her back to him.

And we know he is not a good person coz he was willing to take chance of her suffering as a sex slave, because there was also a chance she did run away. And we know he was not 100% sure she run away, coz he would not agree to left Ryang Eum and Yeon Jun go after her, if he truly was 100% sure she just fucked off woth Jang Hyun.

At thay moment his lack of trust and insecurities were more important than Gil Chae so I'm sorry, i don't believe he truly loves her. If he did, he would know her after years of living together and he would know how loyal she is and that she would not run away with another man after marrying him.

which sounded like a lie to him < even if it did, there was LITERALLY no reason to risk not going after her and checking out for himself. If he was not blinded by his jealousy and went after her right away on horse, chances are he would be able to get to them before they left the country (since they were moving slow with all the ladies and old people walking).

He assumed it was a lie with no proof of her running away. It was emotional and illogical decision and it's consequences are Gil Chae almost becoming sex slave. If I knew there is even 0.0001% chance my loved one was in danger, I would not just dismiss it because I think someone might be lying. This just wild for me. The consequences of not believing are just too serious. Hell, even if someone I trusted told me my loved one did run away, and someone the person they run away with is friends with told me they were kidnapped, I would still go after them to make sure for myself, because again THE CONSEQUENCES ARE TOO SERIOUS TO DISMISS EVEN THE SMALLEST CHANCE they are in trouble!

There was no way he did not know invaders kidnapped random women and not just the ones that run away, when even Yeon Jun knew about it, and he had no high position in office since he lost the approval of the king.

Namkoong Min's face also looks a lot skinnier. it matches the hardships the characters are going through.

she probably just lost some weight.

not everyone hates FL. There are many of us that love and adore her. So it's not like the writer is doing something wrong, it's just different people have different tastes and it's impossible for a writer to please everyone.

not everyone watches dramas as escapism. and no one forces anyone to watch it. if it's too much for someone, they can just stop watching. Unless someone wants to watch it despite feeling overwhelmed, by the plot. But then you are making the choice, and it's not on the writer for writing painful and hard to watch story, it's on you for continuing to watch it when it's too much emotionally. I've stopped watching many dramas and movies that by the quality were amazing, but the topics were hitting me a bit too hard and it was simply too much to continued. The audience knows themselves the best and it's on them to decide if they can handle presented plot or not.

On one hand... them not sleeping together seems off, it's been 2 years. BUT you are right about the kids. It's not like they had great contraceptives in 1600' Korea 😅

but as EveryoneISMyOppa said, the clean comment was about the lack of scars.

Yes, he sees value in her when she is dedicated WIFE, and not as just human being. He was 100% fine taking the risk of her suffering when he was not 100% sure she did not run away and ONLY decided to go after her when he found out she was in fact kidnapped, so she did not break the vows as a wife. Because he only sees value in her if she is faithful wife. That's my whole point. If he truly loved her, he would go after her the moment he heard she was kidnapped, because he would not want to take that risk of her suffering.

they will be too happy to oblige < that's not true. He is useful to other officials, but the royal family would drop his ass and get him kill in a second if he stepped out of line (I'm talking Qing royal family). And since Gil Chae picked the interest of his Majesty, I don';t think Jan Hyun could negotiate getting her out of it. I also think he would have to break her out of it. The same way he could not just buy out Young Rang.

I will be honest, I did not hate Official Gu in part 1. Yes, it was awful how he used Gil Chae's father, but with how all the characters acted selfish at times and no one was truly pure and good, it was just on brand with the writing. He made one shitty decision out of jealously.

BUT the way he is in part 2 is just trash. The truth is, the only value he sees in Gil Chae is as his wife, and not as a human being. If she hinders in any way the image of his wife, he is ready to drop her any time. Even if I head a cheating partner (which is not even the case here), but found out they might be in danger, possibly enslaved and abused, I would do everything I can to help and save them, and only after they are safe, I would make any decisions whenever I want to stay with them or not. Their life would be more important than my pride. But he only cared to help her after it was proven she did not run away, but was in fact kidnapped. He is such a weak prideful fool who does not deserve any woman, not just Gil Chae. Because he does not see women as partners, but as possessions, whose value depends on how well they can manage wife duties.

i was 3 bottles of beer in by the end of the episode and also exhausted from work, so the last few minutes are without the reaction, sadly 😅 i was just too tired to write anymore hahaha

You're 6 minutes in the ep, I'm 6 minutes away from falling asleep 🤣🤣

this one was actually tamed in tamed on emotional expression hahaha

watch ep 2/12 so we can chat!

That's the issue! The woman he claims to love goes missing, but he does not see her as the victim, he sees himself as a victim in that situation.

I don't even think it's weird he had doubts, it';s the fact he let his jealousy and doubts blind him enough he refused to take an action that could save her from being dragged out of the country that annoys me. One does not control their feelings, but they can control their actions.