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I have just concluded the post "Whispers Of Fate— Worldview/Timelines and other details, with my best understanding and capabilities.

This is mainly for the future viewers, I have included everything I could that ties up all the things together (there are still some things left but it is what is it now~ already way too long XD) I hope my post could be of some help if someone in future find themselves to be confused.

Now what’s left is to write a review, after that it will be time for me to officially bid farewell to SLY and Tang Lici >⁠.⁠<

https://kisskh.at/discussions/755725-shui-long-yin/146760-whispers-of-fate-worldview-timelines-and-other-details?pid=3437908&page=1#p3437908

SLY does have its flaws, just like everything has. Nothing is perfect and it’s the best drama I have seen in the recent years.

Thank you for your beautiful review! Tang Lici’s comprehension and the unfolding of this drama makes one to wonder about their own existence and path. Perception of world and different circumstances in the life.

I am so serious, if Ye Mo were given a chance, he would play the roles of everyone around Tang Lici... Fang Zhou, Liu Yan, Chi Yun, Shen Langhun, Fang Pingzhai, Shao Yanping, Zhong Chunji, A Shui, etc etc... all of them would be Ye Mo.

😂😂😂😂

The irony is that Ye Mo is the main antagonist but he never harmed Tang Lici. He even bowed down to Tang Lici.

The antagonist greatly admires the protagonist, and he doesn’t shy away expressing his admiration to the protagonist.

Ye Mo also died in Ep40, he is Tang Lici’s brother, companion, saviour, and beloved disciple💔

In this drama, time doesn’t move forward but moves in a Mobius strip. If you try to analyze the first loop, you will come to discover that there was never an exact starting point, it keeps going on like a circle. LIKE, you wake up on a sunday morning, do all your work then sleeps at night but when you wake up the next day, it's not monday but still it's sunday and again you do all your work and then sleep and again you wake up next day and again it's sunday, it keeps repeating to infinity. Just like that, In SLY, TLC goes back in time, YM is defeated, FZ saves and raises TLC, Gui Mudan builds time machine, TLC again goes back in time, YM is again defeated... so on.

Tang Lici was picked up by Fang Zhou, but the first mortal Tang Lici saw in Shenzhou was Liu Yan. Liu Yan was also the last mortal Tang Lici saw before leaving Shenzhou.

One solution to all problems; Removal of both A Shui and Bai Suche XD. I too watched Immortal Ascension for Yang Yang (Han Li), I really liked Han Li in the novel, tried to watch the donghua but couldn’t due to low budget animation. I would say RI won in this department.

No, YM¹ couldn’t stop YM³ from killing Fang Zhou. both YMs possessed Heaven-Changing Sutra, The Rebirth Sutra is a step above Heaven-Changing Sutra, meaningly in combat, TLC is more powerful than YM, YM¹ and YM³ are equal in combat. YM¹ needed TLC² to take over YM³ to let himself to be defeated. Without TLC² consciousness it would be like;

YM¹ consciousness: I want to be defeated.
YM³ consciousness: The heck is wrong with you?
YM¹ consciousness: Shut up! And kill yourself!
YM¹ and YM³ starts fighting within.

Seven masters; What’s going on with him?(⁠●⁠_⁠_⁠●⁠)

YM¹ wanted TLC³ to know all his plans and these messy timelines created by him, he even let TLC to experience his own past. My understanding is that, YM¹ low-key wanted him to understand him, you will see in last Ep that TLC never blamed YM and gave him a chance to choose.

I saw your other replies to me and I 100% agree with you, removing both A Shui and Bai Suche is the only way to improve this drama. A Shui is just there to be a shell for divine stone and nothing more. Her scenes with TLC are cringe and pointless and take away the seriousness from the drama. The wedding scene still happens in Ep1 but it’s just to drag TLC into Jianghu affairs, without A Shui, like it’s just a wedding of Hao with some other random lady. As for the walking blood bank, the divine stone originally belonged to Ye Mo, so Xiao Shi could carry this additional healing powers as well, it would also solidified the relationship between TLC and YM and add more tension between them. FZ chose to believe in TLC despite knowing his identity and TLC chose to believe in Xiao Shi despite finding him suspicious. And this would also make the revelation of Xiao Shi being Ye Mo all along in Ep40 much more shocking and meaningful.

There is a taiwanese drama called 'Someday or one day' and it has just 13 episodes. It has five main characters (six if you count the villain) with the similiar time loop/multiverse themes, the timelines there are as complicated as SLY yet every timeline was explained well, every main character shone, every side character strongly contributed to the plot with a very much limited screentime without being seen as useless. So, it’s not about her screentime but the character itself. I believe it also has to do with the genre. This drama is original a male centric drama, One-male-centric to be precise, it’s understandable why only the protagonist and the antagonist got strong writting with everyone else just being a plot device.

Regarding maternal vibes, the drama already added Tang Lici’s mother who loved him unconditionally and became his salvation, there really is no point for A Shui to exist in this drama.

In the Bilao palace, when everyone were searching for Tang Lici but only A Shui found him, that’s because Gui Mudan’s puppet (that young boy) guided her to find Tang Lici and saved him. This is why Gui Mudan never stopped Liu Yan from harming Tang Lici, so everytime Liu Yan harms him, A Shui saves him; the drama cut this out, some would say it’s because LYX’s fans forced them to cut her scenes but if LYX’s fans really had this power in their hands, they wouldn’t let Tang Lici’s scenes to be cut.

The editing really makes me want to bang my head against the wall.

When Liu Yan said "I have lost everything in this life, but A Li, you must win, win back my share too" I felt deeply sad. The performance right here is brilliant.

Tianren realm is the most visually stunning part of the drama. Wish we could see the complete story of Tangjia and Ye Mo, could see Bai Nanzhu’s villain era, Puppet Garuda spying on little Tangjia, Garuda lord teaching Ye Mo, Tuo Long guarding the celestial realm, Guardian goddesses raising baby Tangjia.., it’s all a dream now.

I would like to add a point that Gui Mudan erasing her memories never existed in the screenplay. She wanted to seek revenge and approached Gui Mudan and Gui Mudan inserted the divine stone into her blood and planted her by Tang Lici’s side. In this way, she could act as both, Gui Mudan’s undercover agent and also get her revenge. It was all going on the track (this is also the reason why the scene between her and the Yamen sect leader makes sense). Later on, she realised she trapped an innocent person and regretted it, there was also a face-to-face scene between them where she apologized to him, Tang Lici forgave her and told her about her brother. She then gave him the divine stone as a way to redeem herself and then left. The drama tried to whitewash her character with this memory erasing plot, but this attempt of trying to whitewash her completely destroyed her character to the point you can just cut her out.

This is really some good analysis now. I would like to shorten the Bilao palace arc to 2/2.5Ep, it should be over by Ep16. Central plains arc should start by Ep17. Reduce the scenes of A Shui/Yu Furen/Yu Qifeng/Gu Xitan (too much screentime for nothing), remove Bai Suche (she adds nothing to the plot), give more scenes to Xiao Shi. Tang Lici and Liu Yan should get back together by Ep28-29, Gui Mudan arc start by Ep30. Ep32-Ep36 should be all about the celestial realm. I would also like to start the Ep1 with the battle scene of Bai Nanzhu and Tang Lici in the vast space, Tang Lici falling down in Shenzhou, then a black-screen and then an animated clip of explaining celestial realm and Shenzhou in 3-4mins. Then the scene of Liu Yan disguised as Tang Lici playing pipa on the rooftop.

Number of people who confessed their love to Tang Lici;

1. Zhong Chunji (rejected)
2. Liu Yan (accepted)
3. Ye Mo (accepted)

Dedication is dedication, no less and greater XD, all our combined efforts together makes it more meaningful to others and each other.

Writing review for SLY seems to difficult, it’s such a thoughtful provoking drama and there are lots and lots to analysis. The more you rewatch, the more things you discover.