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Replying to voteawake221204 Jun 13, 2026
Mo Jing Li said Guo Jin ( I suppose Empress D ) had an eye on throne, but can someone other than heir of Emperor…
Well, Wu Zetian did exactly that in Chinese history and became the only female Empeor of a dynasty. I assume this Empress Dowager was inspired from Wu Zetian.
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Replying to SceneStealer Jun 13, 2026
Currently on episode 6, so still far too early for me to say anything meaningful about the story itself. Cautious…
Hard agree. Just these production and directing choices alone stand out so much already. I was also feeling fatigued by all the bright colors and noisy elements in recent dramas. This really is a nice change of pace for me, taking me down the nostalgic lane of earlier cdramas.
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Replying to m4zzue Jun 13, 2026
"he doesn't hit her or scream at her" the bar is so low lmfao
Compared to other bastards of its time, MJL looks like a gem. The bar is indeed low lmfao
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Replying to Hyunelovebot Jun 13, 2026
Guys how's this drama going so far?? I watched the first 2 episodes, but they didn't exactly interest me. I don't…
It's excellent so far.

For this drama, recommend to watch till ep 4-5 to fully grasp the stories and characters.
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Replying to Ti02 Jun 13, 2026
I am sorry, but I am not really happy about whitewashing Mo Jingli. I am only upset on him because he is harassing…
I kinda feel the same. Let him just be an unscrupulous egomanic that he is, so that we can dislike him without reservation. haha

But, let's see how it'll develop further.
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Replying to AtsukoM Jun 13, 2026
Title The First Jasmine Spoiler
To be fair, the novel would not have worked in today's drama formats. Consider the episode limits, the massive…
I get where you are coming from. It was indeed awesome to read a MXY who commands immense power that shakes the entire realm. I also low key hope the drama will develop to that scale later down the line even if the chances are low. haha
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On The First Jasmine Jun 13, 2026
Like someone said, Ye Li is a hair's breadth away from being a villain—and an incredibly tough one at that.

She's smart, cunning, decisive, difficult to read... and knows how to use her feminity to get to the opponent, the textbook definition of a 'wolf in sheep’s clothing'.

If her alignment were flipped, she would very well be a beauty that topples countries, who watches the chaos while sipping tea.
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Replying to ronan_09 Jun 13, 2026
From what I remember, the drama has deviated a lot from the original novel. It's a female lead story, but even…
To be fair, the novel would not have worked in today's drama formats. Consider the episode limits, the massive character ensemble, the budget, and the market demands.

Not to mention, the pre-marriage arcs are incredibly generic, and most of the subplots won't even have room for them in the drama.

Don't get me wrong, I love the novel and recommend it to others whenever I get a chance. But an exact adaptation is just not happening in today's drama market. That's the reality.

I beg to differ with your comment regarding Mo Xiuyao, though. Imo, he's largely the same as his counterpart from the novel in terms of characterization.

We usually recommend ppl to watch until ep4-5 because that's where everything starts to make sense. Since you were looking forward to the drama, why not give it a few more episodes?
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Replying to AtsukoM Jun 13, 2026
That's the consensus so far, and likely the case as well.
Yes, it seems to be so. How much of what she says are truth or lie, we don't know yet. They'll be revealed later down the line.
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Replying to SoVa Jun 13, 2026
Title The First Jasmine Spoiler
I’m on ep07. so everyone on Li mountain is dead right? only Yi Le survived?
That's the consensus so far, and likely the case as well.
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Replying to onmyway123 Jun 13, 2026
I don't know much about the specifics of the Chinese drama industry, but in many cases when production companies…
Also, the fact that this director holds enough weight to negotiate this with the producers and investors speaks volumes. Given her track record, she definitely has the leverage to protect the storytelling.

I know that's not the case normally... it always breaks my heart whenever a very good source material is turned into a sloppy mess.
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Replying to mita_leee Jun 13, 2026
Umm idk how to explain like ofcourse I am loving the drama like everything is beautiful but I am not loving bai…
Your opinion is fine. Chemistry is a very subjective thing to begin with.

For me, this couple is doing absolute wonders. They show their care towards each other through subtle actions and the intent behind them. There is a very good comment down below explaining the current state of Ye Li's mind, and why she might not actually be in a romantic love stage yet.
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Replying to onmyway123 Jun 13, 2026
I don't know much about the specifics of the Chinese drama industry, but in many cases when production companies…
Which is why I'm appreciative of the director and writer of this drama for pushing for this type of story, especially in idol drama space where visuals and instant gratifications are the dominant trends these days.
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Replying to Nick_Fox Jun 13, 2026
Well, the previous writers were known for sloppy scripts, so apparently their work wasn't to the director's liking…
Exactly. Also, based on the current writer's portfolio, I can at least be convinced she knows what she's doing.

Plus, we don't even know the first writer's version to even make comparison or assume that's the better one.
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess Jun 13, 2026
I think Ye Li is not as delusional as we may think regarding Lishan Academy. Yes, she is partially in denial but…
Totally agreed. She seems to be very clear and in control of the politics around Linshan Academy. Her actions are too purposeful and calculated to be labeled delusional.

But, on the other hand, her being not able to cope well is a separate matter.
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Replying to soybeann Jun 13, 2026
is it better than Ashes to Crown?
I much prefer the story telling in The First Jasmine better, and the characters here are much better written as well. I may finish AtC later, but for now this drama is my obsession.
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Replying to Remo666 Jun 13, 2026
Not going to lie Ye Li was a little annoying in the latest episode. So she almost dies then spends several nights…
Insane behavior because she's on the verge of insanity to begin with. Gotta deep dive to comprehend her state of mind at any given moment. Really can't judge her with the regular ruler we use for simpler and more straight forward characters.
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On The First Jasmine Jun 13, 2026
Mo Xiuyao nagging and scolding Ye Li, and Ye Li nonchalantly coaxing him back... those are one of my favorite parts of the drama. I can watch them do it all day. ❤️😍
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Replying to Nick_Fox Jun 12, 2026
Why did i chocked for the second one😂😂😂
That's the first thing that came to my mind as well lol

2nd Master Ye got it tough. He broke off with his first wife, so his eldest daughter is estranged from him. Now he's likely wearing a green hat as well.
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Replying to leoxxys Jun 12, 2026
Didn't get into it yet but what I always fear in this kind of trope is that the ML is turned into cuck watching…
The novel is not. Don't know for drama, but drama likely won't either.
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