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Replying to CostumeHEA May 25, 2024
Title Joy of Life Season 2 Spoiler
BEWARE *** LOT OF MAJOR SPOILERS UNDER ***... and very long post !! 🫣🤪I believe the screenwriter and art…
DuoDuo is his confident, she gets him. Wan’er his his sweetheart he adores. DuoDuo is more mental, Wan’er more physical and heart.
Replying to CostumeHEA May 25, 2024
Title Joy of Life Season 2 Spoiler
BEWARE *** LOT OF MAJOR SPOILERS UNDER ***... and very long post !! 🫣🤪I believe the screenwriter and art…
Yes. I agree. In private, he indulges and cares about FX in the drama. In the novel, it is out in the open, and everyone knows he is his favoured son.
Replying to CostumeHEA May 24, 2024
Title Joy of Life Season 2 Spoiler
Novel versus drama…Keep spoiler button on
BEWARE *** LOT OF MAJOR SPOILERS UNDER ***

... and very long post !! 🫣🤪

I believe the screenwriter and art director decided to compile a few story arcs together and removed many details, which were sometimes crucial for understanding the storyline. It was unavoidable with 746 chapters but knowing the full picture, I think they missed few important details. But maybe the story line will go to another direction and I am intrigued to see it. Her are my thoughts in general up to episode 16

The young dukes who attacked him are indeed the sons of the generals who returned from the frontier with the first prince. When the first prince returned with his army, many generals returned with their wives, concubines, and children. Some of the children became wild and killed people for fun. They were between 9 and 15. During FX's absence in the north which was many months, his brother knew those bullies/killers (FX’s brother was 12 when this happened, the third prince only 9), and when something happened in the brothel, they were involved. The main culpit was an ex prostitite the second prince knew intimately. She stole teens girls and forced them to prostitution. FX brother and third prince knew it was a brothel but not the dirty deeds. In the novel, FX decides to punish and beat his brother because they murdered several girls and he was stupid and naive and could destroy the FAN family, father and him and everyone. Chinese always mention “face”. This is extremely important. If anyone in the family did something wrong, kill, steal, anything, the family was ruined entirely. Everyone was disgraced, sometimes killed. So FX was extremely angry considering he and their father were in the front line of political struggles with ministers and palace internal affairs.

This was a common practice where the eldest or father disciplined anyone in the household, including children, concubines, and maids. FX chose to do so because he believed it was the only way to save his brother and because he was extremely angry with him. He rushed his brother north to save him and avoided being used against him. During a meeting in the street, FX confronted and defeated many opponents, even killing their leader. These opponents were part of the extensive FAN family, which was organized hierarchically. For example, FX's father was the head of the family, and FX was under his authority. The FAN family consisted of hundreds of people who did not all live in the same place.

The incident occurred with the censorate (Lai) did not occur in the emperor's private rooms. In the end, a dozen people were beaten, but no one died. FX did not supervise the incident. Another incident occurred later in the story while FX was away to take charge of the revenue. This time, a few ministry officials were investigated. Initially, it seemed like the FX father was being targeted and indirectly FX, but in the end, it was revealed that the Crown Prince was involved, and FX was safe. As a result, a few ministers were kicked out.

Note that every major decision executed by Cheng Ping Ping was pre-approved or ordered by the emperor. The emperor knew everything used people like pawns. His ambition was endless and even though he liked FX, FX remained expandable if need be. Cheng bypassed some decisions because he put FX before the Emperor. The drama does not reflect this very well. Cheng seems to have other plans and using FX. Cheng sent him to the north to test him. If he came back successful ,he would take his position. Cheng trusted FX to succeed.

The fake death never happened. The mourning never happened.. The emperor never beat FX. FX never beg. He never revealed the temple place. He never accused second prince and eldest princess collusion to the emperor or CP. FX never cried. FX practiced QI every day. There is a young eunuch (in novel full of acne) who played a big role but we saw him only briefly. Drama did a good job with first division (bribes and playing games) but Yan never accompanied FX. Yan was recovering his severeinjuries when he was tortured in the north. He will be his right hand handling the 6 divisions later.

Guo Bao never went to the north. FX's brother was sent there to avoid jail, retaliation, and being used against FX. FX gave him 1 year to prove he could be successful, which he was, and his brother took over the smuggling business, approved by the emperor of the north. They mostly imported goods from the south Qin. Quing Nian was left behind 2 years to replace Yan to handle the spys. So FX lost his most trusted aid, but later, he was replaced with another aid. FX did a lot of smuggling himself, but he also helped the people, such as building a defence against the floods that killed thousands each year. So, he was a good, cunning baddie.

The story of the Saint DuoDuo and FX begins with a lack of romantic feelings between them. However, FX's feelings change upon hearing about an impending marriage, as he fears losing DuoDuo to the constraints of married life. He realizes that his uneasiness is love and asks her to marry him. Despite opposition due to their differing backgrounds, DuoDuo agrees. In the novel, when FX is unable to fight, DuoDuo came from north to share the secret martial art and discovered FX lost his QI. She decides to stay and help him to regain his strength using a unique method taught by her grandmaster (his mother gave him a book, remember?). FX then gains exceptional martial abilities. The novel is ambiguous about whether they become lovers, but it seems that they did not. They started to exchange letters after his return to the capital and she became his confident. He trusted her. However, she betrayed him at one point. Expect a big bad a boom between si lili, the north emperor and FX.

His romantic relationship was much less romantic and developed than portrayed. While he did fall in love at first sight and had a deep mutual love with his wife, during his journey to take over the revenue position, he became involved with Sisi, a maid who was older than him by 4-5 years (knew her since childhood and both played under the covers without the big act) and she became his official concubine. She also became pregnant, and his wife accepted her without any fuss. It was a normal practice to have concubines at that time. In the novel, the romantic relationship was not developed. It seems to me that he slept with Sisi because she complained she was still a virgin, but he had no real interest. He cared for her and welcomed her as his concubine because it was expected. In the drama, Wan'er is played by a well-known Chinese actress. I believe her screen time was part of her contract because honestly, the story is not a romance but a palace political one and she is not a main role whatsoever. FX in the novel is not a womanizer.

Wu Zhu was very present until he arrived at t(e capital. Then he had a big fight and was injured. FX didn't know that. Wu Zhu went to a secret place to recuperateand it took months before FX saw him. We have a good idea who he is in the novel and the drama gives many clues such FX saying that he will still look young when he will be an old guy, the fact he has no QI. In the drama you see him making a funny head movement like a robot. His main goal is to protect FX. So yes, he is an AI and very close to human. But he was injured. His loss memory is also a clue. In S3 you will know more about him, his eyes, etc. The emperor (because FX mother shared it with the emperor) know how to use him. He tried to destroy him but he recovered partially loosing his memory but not his prime directive to protect FX.

You need to understand that the main antagonist is the eldest princess. She is behind every assassination, plot, and scheme, whether from the palace or from her exile. The second prince and the Crown Prince are under her control as her puppets. She has numerous generals, officials, grandmasters, and families under her influence.

The relationship between FX and the eldest princess was filled with hate. In the novel, she is portrayed as extremely beautiful and a genius mastermind. She decided to stop supporting her brother, the emperor, when she realized how much he despised intelligent women. She wanted to prove that she could be smarter than him. As FX gained power, popularity, and the emperor's support, her hatred for him grew, and she plotted traps, assassinations, and more to eliminate him. SHE is the true villain. She has no conscious, no values, no remorse. She is using everyone. For her, incest does not exist. She loved her brother like a woman until she hated him like a woman, never a sister.

The emperor had complex feelings towards FX - he both loved and hated and feared him. He never fully trusted FX, but he couldn't deny that he admired him. He recognized FX's genius, similar to that of his mother. In the drama, it seems like the emperor doesn't like FX much in public, but in the novel, he is more indulgent towards him in public. The main reason for this is that FX understands the emperor and knows how to manipulate him. FX is aware that the emperor is narcissistic, egocentric, selfish, and abusive, unable to tolerate anyone more popular than himself. The emperor's ultimate goal is to be remembered in the annals of history as the most remarkable emperor of all time, and he is unwilling to tolerate anyone more popular than himself. FX grasps this and always operates discreetly. There is a lot of mutual manipulation. The emperor indulged FX because FX made it clear he didn't want to replace the CP and later support the third prince. At one point, FX decided to officially renounce any chance to become an emperor by officially being an heir of the fan family, which his adopted father delighted in, as he sincerely loved FX as his son.

In general, I do notice many similar scenes here and there, but they are all mixed and combined to create a different storyline. Some characters have a lot more prominence in the drama compared to the novel. For example, Tenz, a friend who died early in Season 1, never died and was never a close friend in the novel. During the assassination attempt, tenz broke his leg and was sent to his wife/kid to recover. He never had a big part in the novel. However, the first assassination when he first arrived in the capital was indeed carried out by the eldest princess and second princes.

I am not sure if they will include the part where everyone knew that FX was the emperor's son. It was no longer a secret to the palace and the whole world.

The second prince is portrayed as much more villainous than in the novel. His future wife, YE, never interacted with him before their marriage, and she was never against it. YE and her family later proved to be full allies with the second prince. When FX left to take over the revenue (days away from the capital), the second prince and YE got married, and they both became close and confident. There were no verbal fights between FX and SP. Everything was done in hypocritical ways. In fact, the second prince admired FX and always wanted him to join him. The second prince regretted dearly the assassination attempt, which FX never forgave. Oh, and the poisoning with the 3 girls, 3 boys, never happened to the novel, the meal too.

FX considered the crown prince to be a puppet, albeit a kind one. He neither truly liked nor disliked him, and in fact, he thought the crown prince was not unkind. He never killed the few dozen guards because FX appeared toa him nd guards couldn't stop FX. The meeting never happened .FX didn't care about the CP. He cared when he became a treat later but mostly used him to fulfill his purpose. FX viewed the crown prince as weak and easily manipulated by the eldest princess. The crown prince was depicted as very lonely and unloved. The eldest princess was the only one showing interest, and he fell in love with her when he was a teenager, becoming obsessed with her. She slept with him when he was an adult.

In the novel, the first prince married the princess of the north while FX was outside the capital. The princess is portrayed as smart and authoritative, quite different from her portrayal in the drama. Although she is not a main or secondary character, there is a point in the story where the first prince had a mistress before his marriage, which made his wife jealous. However, the first prince never cheated after his marriage.

Both marriages were successful, and both couples were in love although it was more obvious with first prince. Second prince couple was more close partners.

FX always had a team of assassins to protect him, on top of the 7 tigers guards given by his adoptive father. He took over completely the role of Cheng Ping Ping.

The relationship between FX and Cheng Ping Ping in the novel is profound. Cheng considers FX as his spiritual son. They are both genius masterminds. I thought Season 1 portrayed their relationship very well. In Season 2, the screenwriter often twists their relationship to create suspense and avoid spoiling the story arc. This makes it seem like Cheng is not on FX's side, but in reality, Cheng never betrayed FX. He never cheated or did anything that was not in FX's favor. Cheng Ping Ping's ultimate goal and hope was to put FX as the next emperor, so everything he did was for this goal.

After his marriage, the emperor dispatched FX to take control of the revenue (Neiku) previously managed by the eldest princess. However, the eldest princess, along with the second prince, the crown prince, and the empress, embezzled millions from the revenue that was meant to be used for public welfare such as addressing river catastrophes, constructing buildings, and mitigating drought. In the novel, FX left and several chapters detailed his battles against a family involved in smuggling, implicating the north and its ruler, as well as his own brother and the emperor of the north. Ultimately, FX succeeded in returning millions to the emperor, but also amassed a significant fortune for himself and secured his mother's primary source of income. While it was a win for FX, it was a loss for the eldest princess, who lost her primary source of income.

The goal of the princess was to install either the second prince or the crown prince as her puppet, and rule as a regent. She was described as extremely beautiful, appearing to be 16 despite being 35, and she used her looks and body to gain loyalty, even from her nephew, the crown prince. Of course, because of china censorship, she will not the real emperor beloved sister and she will probably become adopted and not the real sister of the emperor, and not the real aunt, but in the novel she was. It also goes that at one point a scene made it clear that the love of her life was her brother, the emperor. In the novel, the emperor never crossed the line but he adored her. The emperor felt betrayed when he knew that his son and her were lovers. The emperor never wanted anybody else but the CP to be his successor. But this was for him unforgivable. Out of everything ugly she did, it was the only unforgivable action from both. He then decide a major (MAJOR) scheme (S3). In season 3, FX will use the destructive gun but in a very epic way.

I find the drama enjoyable because it offers a unique experience. However, I can't help but feel that the character FX isn't portrayed as the clever and cunning individual he is in the novel. In the book, he has an astute understanding of everyone's identities and motivations, and he excels at planning ahead. Despite this, I still find the overall viewing experience quite entertaining.

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I do not claim to be 100% exact. This is my interpretation. Everyone sees a movie or reads a novel with its own background, feelings, tastes, culture etc. It makes this more interesting. So am completely okay if you think differently 😉
Replying to vesca May 21, 2024
Title Joy of Life Season 2 Spoiler
spoiler about ep.13
BEWARE… MAJOR SPOILERS UNDER.…

First prince and FX will become besties and true brothers.

Episodes 11 and 12 have a different arc versus the novel. Many scenes didn't exist in the novel.

- foreign princess is not that naive. She doesn't have much spotlight in the novel. She married first prince and they fell in love. She was described as bossy and smart. She was indeed a spy but at one point she made the decision to support her husband. She is not a major character in the novel at all.

- the scene with 3 girls and 3 bros never happened

- the emperor favored FX and at one point FX told him he knew he was his son. The only was FX survived was because he decided to officially become a Fan. Everone, palace and public, knew he was the emperor son. It was no longer a secret at one point. The emperor favoured FX a lot and used him. FX never considered the emperor a father. Fan Jian was his true father in his mind. This is well represented in the drama. Cheng ping-ping was his mentor, 2 genius alike loving trusting and understanding each other. The drama made it look different.

- In the novel it is way more obvious FX is a true cunning genius planning beforehand everything. He became extremely powerful. He took over Cheng pinging position and the revenue which was equivalent to the palace banker. Both positions made him #2 after the emperor although FX had to fight many political systems.

- FX never wanted to take over his mother goals and ambitions. He understood that in order to protect himself and his loved ones and friends, he needed to have wealth and power.

- The painting never existed but the story behind happened late in the novel. The CP was destituted by the emperor because of it. Not sure how the drama will play it as it should be logically in S3.

- The eldest princess was the true mastermind behind all plots. Not much is seen in drama.

- in novel, the brothel takes a lot of chapters. His brother is not kidnapped, but he arrives safe in the north, and Duoduo takes care of him while he learns how to smuggle goods from the south to the North. Emperor/father doesn't know. FX is planning ahead because he knows the emperor narcissistic temper and FX cannot be too powerful.

- FX will marry. The emperor will give him many gifts to tame his guilt to not be able to announce FX as his son and a prince officially. He wanted to compensate. Soon after his marriage, the emperor sent him to take over the revenue. The official place is days away from the capital. The emperor didn't want FX to become too powerful and popular.

- The conflict with second prince was way more subtil and hypocritical. They never argued. FX never attempted to kill him. FX plans were to destroy his enemies credibility and face. Second prince is portrayed way worse in drama. Crown prince is also portrayed way worse. Peng's guy friend never died. So FX didn't want to avenge. FX needed the power to survive, therefore he wanted to dominate and destroy their power including and mainly the eldest princess. However many assassination attempts from the eldest princess who was the mastermind villain using the 2 princes.

Third prince is 9 years old in the novel and colluded with FXbrother to be the owners of the brothel. Before FX brother departure, FX bested his brother as he was implicated indirectly in some murders and bullying. Brother never took revenge. FX was his hero and loved brother.

In novel sister ruoruo put her brother on a pedestal. The line was blur about loving more than brother and sister but author never developed a love story. FX had the same selfish reaction as the saint duoduo when he didn't want them to marry. Marriage meant they would be stuck in their husband' house, so no freedom to see each other. FX is selfish in his feelings buth when e understood his feelings for his (false) sister were evoluing, he stopped them and sent her in the north learning medicine. So both brother and sister were protected from emperor and the baddies. FX anticipated that his family could be assassinated.

So far the drama is twisting some arc to give more spotlights to a couple of actors and actresses. It is well played. Even if sometimes it felt short of explanation, I like it.

At times I think the art director and screenwriter did a good job, others I think the transitions were lacking details to understand the arc. The edit cut short some scenes that needed more explanation, more depth. They jumped too quickly from one character to the next without cleararc.

I didn't share big mega spoilers because they will be I believe in S3 ;)
Replying to Teens804 May 20, 2024
Title Joy of Life Season 2 Spoiler
Thank you for this comparison between novel and drama to date, I enjoy knowing the differences, I have not read…
The back-and-forth between them in drama is hilarious. Versus the novel she is more like a soul mat
Replying to CostumeHEA May 19, 2024
Title Joy of Life Season 2 Spoiler
You really want to be spoiled? 😆 I think notBy the way, the eldest princess is his aunt, the sister of the…
I believe your wish will be granted in the drama. The novel is not romance oriented even if we have few cute moments ;)
Replying to Teens804 May 19, 2024
Title Joy of Life Season 2 Spoiler
Thank you for this comparison between novel and drama to date, I enjoy knowing the differences, I have not read…
I agree. The translation is unofficial and has some grammar issues, but I was really enthralled by the story. I love both the drama and the story. Different perspectives, but still mainly the same vibe.

They cast Wan'er as the main character, although in the novel she only had a minor role. Duoduo should have been the main character, as she had much more interaction with FX. I suppose it is all about popularity or contract led to her being given the main role.

Also, Tenz in the novel never died.
Replying to JFiio May 19, 2024
I am still rewatching season 1 as I forgot about the plot. I like CPP but from your spoiler is he now a villain…
In the novel CP is the princess puppet which is translated well in the drama. They added the painting and empress to explain that he is not a friend with FX. They exaggerated the animosity with SP. The brain war was more subtle
Replying to JustAnotherFan May 19, 2024
Title Joy of Life Season 2 Spoiler
I had the same reaction for season1. I thought the way they changed from novel vs drama was not great. However,…
I think the darker wil be S3.
Replying to IeHua Zhong May 19, 2024
Title Joy of Life Season 2 Spoiler
Yes I totally agree with you. There will always be a comparison especially if you have read the novel before watching…
Lol I always spoil myself with the epilogue but I enjoyed so much JoL that I read the 746 chapters. I agree with you and I wonder if and how they will include the Emperor of the North and Si Lili's story. I think they will remove this arc. Right now, I feel they rushed the relationship with the second prince and distorted the relationship with the crown prince. The third prince is way older (in the novel he is 9). The first prince looks similar. Episode 8 is all about Fan Xian taking over Cheng's position. I hope.
Replying to IeHua Zhong May 19, 2024
Title Joy of Life Season 2 Spoiler
Yes I totally agree with you. There will always be a comparison especially if you have read the novel before watching…
This drama is definitely my favorite. In fact, I started reading the novel during Season 1. So far, I have not been disappointed. I just don't understand his fake death, and his cunning genius personality doesn't translate well. He only trusts very few people, and the character in Season 2 doesn't reflect that, especially with the emperor, the princes, and even Cheng Pingping. I understand some arc needed to be removed (censorship) and condensed but I am questioning the choices prod and screenwriter took.
Did you read the novel?
Replying to waiting3799 May 19, 2024
Title Joy of Life Season 2 Spoiler
i'm all giggles for the eldest princess and the first prince. someone please please spoil me if they might get…
You really want to be spoiled? 😆 I think not
By the way, the eldest princess is his aunt, the sister of the emperor. She is around 35 (looking like 16 in the novel). The first prince is in his early twenties.
On Joy of Life Season 2 May 19, 2024
Title Joy of Life Season 2 Spoiler
The downfall of reading the novel is that it leads to making comparisons. So, of course, because in the novel Fan Xian didn’t fake his death, the story felt a bit upside down for me. Finally, in episode 7, the crown prince revealed himself as a villain. In the novel, Fan Xian never trusted or sided with the crown prince or the second prince. Fan Xian never asked for any favors. The great princess had way more spotlight in the novel. In the novel, the temple was not revealed at that time. Fan Xian came back from the north as a hero, and nobody mourned him. They reduced the brothel story a lot, but they did a good job. There was no painting in the novel, and "this" came very late in the novel and his mother never knew, only few others. The meal with the emperor and his sons never happened. Fan Xian was never beaten by the emperor; on the contrary, the emperor showed major favoritism to Fan Xian at his return.The major change is Cheng Pingping. In the novel, he always supported Fan Xian and never betrayed him. They were true soulmates, like master and disciple, two genius masterminds. Cheng considered Xian as his son. Fan Xian never doubted Cheng Ping. In fact, in the novel, when fan Xian came back, Cheng pingping gave him full authority and he took over his position, still in the shadows but not upfront. In the drama, he is such a great character that I understand why they twisted his character. The character playing his father is similar to the novel.

All in all, it was good but not great. I enjoyed the humor and the performances of the actors and actresses, but I missed seeing some martial arts fights. Like the fight with the first prince warriors and fan Xian tigers warriors. They missed imo an opportunity here. I know this is only the beginning of the second season. I am not sure if I like the speed. I understand they could not produce the 746 chapters but I feel it was short at times. I find it challenging to portray his genius on screen. Fan Xian is extremely cunning, always devising plans and thinking far ahead. At times, I can see it but like the meal with the emperor and princes didn't translate well.

This is my opinion. You are entitled to think differently. I will not answer aggressive comments. We can enjoy a drama, be a fan but still have cons and pros.

I will refrain from revealing too much, even with the use of the spoiler button. I will limit my comparisons to the novel and the episodes that have aired.
Replying to DadaMame May 16, 2024
Is it me or Fan Xian lost weight??? He look thinnest
He did…. Scriptwriter even added a line said by second prince
Replying to IMCoutinho May 14, 2024
Title Joy of Life Season 2 Spoiler
- I do not understand. If Haitian is back, why isn't the Emperor/Empress of Northern qi back too?
Not in S2
Replying to IMCoutinho May 13, 2024
in short. he became too famous to act as a supporting character.
There are rumors and gossips circulating around, but nobody knows the exact reason behind it. It could be due to other commitments or personal reasons. Earlier this year, he mentioned that he wanted to take a step back from entertainment, so it's possible that this decision was made last year or could be related to his fashion commitments. We should not speculate that he is too famous as it's just hearsay from people.
Nasty rumors like this could destroy a career; I find them mean and unfounded.