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The discussion wasn’t about him, nobody was asking for recommendations so it was very weird to come out of nowhere and ask to watch one of his drama.
This behavior is very frequent amongst fan army, pushing others against their will to like their idols

I was able to find the 3 first episodes of The Other Bennet, I love it some much. I am a bit of a Jane Austen addict, I have seen nearly every adaptation. Switching from Asian contents to this adaptation it’s a funny stretch…not the same beauty treats. The actors are so good. Cannot wait to find the end too.
UK is one of the most amazing place for actors. The industry has a good balance between commercial and artistic projects. Young actors have time to carver their craft, support from older ones who act like mentors, easy access to Hollywood. Which western actor doesn’t dream to play Shakespeare at least once.
I saw a very interview a few months away of Sir Michael Caine, he was so funny and down to earth sharing to Graham his experience on a film set in India. 73-year-long career with ups and downs.
It’s true the public for westerners is easier to handle, people criticize but don’t fully boycott. Public also separates easily the part/the actor/the person.
Concerning our young man, I didn’t watched the Jade thing. Story wasn’t my cup of tea (no interest in battlefield). I have hard time to connect with Cdramas so I am very selective with those I try. As the same clichés are overused at some point I feel like I am watching the same story again and again. Modern day ones are overly simplified we already know how it’s going to end. And period ones go for an eternity about plotting, revenge and artificial over complicated storylines. I feel like also the fans have a tendency to hype very average dramas and I hate being fooled expecting a masterpiece and getting a bland average to mediocre production. But that’s just my personal taste. I relate way more with Korean content.

Directors sure play a big part on good and bad acting, by confirming and actor that might not fit the part, by giving wrong directions, by selecting wrong takes.
You are perfectly right the Chinese actors/idols have crazy schedules that don’t allow them to research, to immerse in character (and get out of it), they work like office workers 6 days a week and maybe some 7/7. They do commercials, modeling, press junkets, event for the fans…going everywhere all date all the time as if their rent was due yesterday.
I wonder if acting is considered as an art too or just as
a regular business.
I know that Korean actors do some stage too I don’t know if Chinese actors do that. The industry is settle to put very fast to the spotlight actors who have no time to get a classical training and no experience. Korean actors often have study acting/entertainment at university, I regularly see Chinese actors with engineering and other scientific I wonder when and where did they learn to act.
The over-obsession about beauty is also detrimental. In my country most actors are average looking, some even ugly 🤣🤣🤣. We are also lazy an actor who is doing well here does one movie a year, press for a month and then enjoys his best life for 8 months. They don’t do commercials or only if it’s a luxury brand, they barely encounter fans…I can remember the name but an American actor shared the other day his love for British actors saying they look real compare to them (plastic surgery, fake teeth, extreme slimness…), “Americans cannot play period pieces”, he said that their extensive stage training also explained why they beat up many American actors.

What are you talking about???
1 - The discussion wasn’t first on his acting but about his point of view on acting and the industry.
2 - If someone feels like saying that an actor is great or bad without me asking anything. I am not gonna be a people pleaser and pretend to like someone’s acting or follow a narrative if I don’t agree with it.
3 - Nobody is taking about being forced to watch anything I do have agency to schedule my viewing as I please. But if a fan out of nowhere decides to make a suggestion when I didn’t ask I am not gonna pretend to be interested when I am not.
Fans are allowed to like whatever they like and gush all day about their idols but we are also allowed not to get involved in their obsessions.

One Lazy day ? There are like 40 episodes. You want me to become blind 🤣🤣
More seriously, I am so behind my schedule, but I will,

Just Saw you are a fan of idols. Here we had a discussion more between lovers of the industry , cinema not idols. I hope it didn’t hurt your feelings it was just that maybe you would find better adherence in another discussion.

Kunning place was recommended to me before. I like Bai Lu but the story seems to share some common points with Princess Royal and I struggled a lot to finish it.I felt the political was dragged for a very very long time I struggled also with the weird dubbing ,emotions felt so insincere. Very theatrical. Maybe one day I would give it a try to that palace.

Decent but not really good, exceptional or oscar-worthy actor for me. I don’t like wuxia, I cannot physically watch Esther Yu, Dylan Wang. I have no interest in Love between Fairy and Devil. Try another crowd

I agree especially after watching The best thing and our Generation.

I don’t think we can put everything on Chinese censorship. It is certainly not helping to get plethora of independent films. Yes more films from Taiwan and Hong Kong are known internationally but there are still some good directors from mainland China who manage to do good contents and the “pretty actors”, idols venture in other ways.
Actors that we see in those popular dramas yes they play in movies but very commercial ones. They are not
playing in movies selected in any major worldwide film
festivals like Berlin, Venice, Cannes, Toronto…
I am speaking about movies from Chen Kaige, Wang Xiashuai, Hu Bo…for example. Films played by those idols aren’t getting shown in any theaters where I am from. Actors from those movies are a full different crew from those tv Cdramas. I seriously doubt Jia Zhangke thinks about cast Zhang Ling He for his next movie. I don’t think China (Or Asia) those movies are on Internet or Netflix for the best ones.
I don’t believe we should reduce Hong Kong new wave to Jackie Chen. His films were very commercial too. There were some high quality films done in Hong-Kong by born Chinese directors. Those movies greatly inspired Korean movies.

I used to watch some Chinese movies and knew those 90s-2000s Chinese stars. But when I tried Chinese recent dramas recommended to me I was very surprised (not in a good way). There are two very distinct industries in China, actors that we see on those Chinese movies shown in international festivals and mainstream entertainment. I don’t think those two industries speak to each other. I don’t think he is a that bad actor, saw him in several dramas. But again it’s a matter of taste and it’s a personal perception. I am pretty sure there are way worst.

You were probably not even born when Lee Minho and Kim Taeri became famous, Lee Teari is mostly a support actor he never was as famous as those two who are largely his senior.

She was. Powerhouse since early 2000s he was in the business from several years but mostly became famous around 2008

👏👏👏👏 Well-said she is taking us for fools too. So shady and unethical

His take on acting is peculiar, I don’t think you can act without bringing something from within into the character. It’s why acting it’s hard, exhausting, can reopen wounds and make you feel exposed. When there is nothing genuine the acting is bad and visually it’s blatant. Without going full method acting the first thing is to find common ground with the part, where you can rely on your own emotions, your past or current experiences and what differs and how you can understand where your character is coming from. Chinese actors being dubbed by others when voices carry such a bit part of emotions and authenticity is an issue. It does create a disconnect between the movement, the face and the voice when all of those should be in sync. The second category of actors that he mentioned are people that go on screen and don’t care about the part, psychology, experiences, what they should bring to the table, don’t understand it and just show themselves as they are. You never see the parts but them in different settings.
Actors should be canvas. Acting by just playing yourself is it really acting?
I don’t think so. Or at least it’s just the definition of limited and bad acting.

There are different level of blindness some manage to be autonomous and walk with a cane, others use a service dog…
Some are born blind and have never seen anything, some manage to perceive light and some shapes, some become blind after disease or accident…it the reason why we should say visually impaired as they are multiple cases
For the planetarium I believe they shot in the middle of the night so the site could keep business as usual during the day. And they saved money by not hiring stunts …2014 it was the early day of Netflix in Korea, Korean were capable to produce a lot with reasonable budgets.

We can see evolution of kdramas since TvN and jTBC arrived early 2010 and mi-2010 adding action, thriller, medical, legal…genres that traditional Korean networks such as KBS, SBS and MBC did not really cover prior. Content shift also from family-centric and romance to a broader spectrum. By expending to middle-east, Africa and south-America content did also become more conservative. TvN at its launch was such a bowl of fresh air, describing a moderner side of Korea… Americans since mostly Disney’s interest in kdramas (around 2018), when also kdramas became leader in Asia are pushing very hard, making major investments and big attempts to control production companies as they have lost in image and market shares. I cannot remember which American network managed two years ago to become shareholder of CJ group, probably Warner. Solely KBS and
MBC are stated funded other major networks aren’t. Government has a limited control over SBS. I personally see many
American influence on scripts. I saw a very interest POV the other day on deception over Demon hunters’ Oscar and Grammy in Korea. Yeah productions for now manage to get many revenue from product placements but when you look at viewership in Korea dramas are less and less performant domestically so those production companies all want the international viewers and other stream of revenues to insurance sustainability. There are not as independent as many want to believe. I don’t know how long they can resist to American roller coaster or even if they want.

Issue looks resolved now

I am not sure it’s a good news. I don’t want kdrama to be become like us tv, procedurals with 55 seasons. I like to follow a cast for a limited time period and then move on to new universe, with a new on a new stories.
I hope they would not do it to push a mediocre romance between the leads. Not all drama need romance. Hope they would enhance if they do another season the cases they weren’t very strong.
I felt like the drama ended without important question marks and din’t need a continuation…

50% I haven’t heard about before. But I feel excited for several dramas. The first quarter wasn’t exceptional so I waiting for a strong summer