i think they‘re trying to show boring moments of Jack and Rose because Jack isn‘t really into her. He doesn’t…
Because rational people who trust each other and care about each other and have a healthy relationship won't let one simple conversation stand in the way of their relationship? Like? I'm sure it happens a lot, and not to generalize, but maybe a lot of these relationships you speak of falling apart or with a lot of fighting... aren't... healthy...?
i think they‘re trying to show boring moments of Jack and Rose because Jack isn‘t really into her. He doesn’t…
The problem isn't that Jack should act differently with Rose, but that the scenes itself should've been furthering the plot--which most of them don't, because all Rose did for Jack in the end was, what, give his grandma a nice room on the day of her surgery and give her tons of flowers and fruits? Wow. Is Jack having fun with Rose? Not really. But we also haven't seen a lot of him having fun with Joke, either. He hated him up until recently. He's only just opened up to Joke, and the past two episodes they've barely been on screen together. Also, the entire string of scenes with that weirdo from the Four Horsemen and his dumb game was USELESS. Utterly, completely, irredeemably useless. We gained nothing from that. Rose not marrying that guy aren't stakes we were ever invested in or cared about. Not to mention Jack could've said one sentence to Joke that he's working for Rose to deceive her on the boss' orders like he literally did in one of the last scenes of this episode and the whole miscommunication and them drifting apart wouldn't have happened.
About attraction; I mean, you clearly disagree, but I do not see it. That's not me lying lmfao it's just an opinion. I can see the attraction from Joke, but not from Jack. Of course Jack cares about Joke, I don't think that defines any attraction. Telling him the truth also doesn't, that's just Jack finally getting his head out of his ass. The cuddling scene was the first thing I'd deem romantic, but we're literally in EP 8.
And I'm sorry, but you cannot be seriously saying this story has a realistic concept hahah. That's a joke, right? It has some points to make about classism and societal divides, but? Miscommunication isn't realistic, not like how this BL and so many BL employ the trope. If one normal conversation could resolve the misunderstanding, then it's NOT REALISTIC. There was nothing preventing Jack, as example, from telling Joke what was up with him and Rose, but he just... didn't. He could miraculously talk about it in the hospital with his grandma, so, why not like, last episode? It's just contrivance after contrivance.
If you want actually realistic BL, watch The Eighth Sense. Or the currently airing Love in the Big City. Or the movie His. Or Life; Love on the Line. etc. I could go on. Jack and Joker ain't that.
i think they‘re trying to show boring moments of Jack and Rose because Jack isn‘t really into her. He doesn’t…
Boring scenes shouldn't belong in a series you watch for entertainment though. There's plenty of ways to show Jack doesn't like her, but he's such a wishy-washy, confusing character that frankly, I don't actually know if he's more into Joke than Rose. Yes, because this is a BL we know he and Joke will end up together, but I gotta be honest, I don't see the attraction towards Joke from Jack. We're down 8 episodes out of 12, and we still don't have any real romantic scenes and concrete feelings. From this point onward, the more screentime Jack and Joke spent apart is time lost for them to learn about one another and grow closer. I get why they won't work together for plot reasons, but the pacing of the series sucks ass. We've already seen a heist performed by Joke and side characters earlier in the story. We're just gonna get the same plot point in a different coat of paint fed to us next episode.
Same. The writing was weak since the beginning, but other things kept me interested in this series, like the great…
Yup, I really thought we'd have some fun with morally grey characters and actions, but it's become extremely clear that boss and the Four Horsemen = evil, everyone else = good. Side note, I know most people really hate Save and Hope, but I like them a lot and I'd argue they're the only real morally grey characters in the series, but I digress. That's somewhat subjective.
Same. The writing was weak since the beginning, but other things kept me interested in this series, like the great…
It's so disappointing and frustrating. The last two episodes were 90% filler and 10% Joke trying to reconnect with his father WHICH I liked. But that was all. Jack was boring from the start but I assumed that was part of his character arc, but then it turned out he's not actually ruthless and is still nice and wishy-washy about everything. It's not even a proper slow burn romance in my opinion because though we can assume Joke is probably in love with Jack (why tho lmfao), Jack only gives him the time of day when Joke is A. on his side, and B. not a thief, whereas Joke has been trying so hard to understand every choice Jack makes. The slow burn energy isn't matched.
Jesus Christ what a snoozefest this episode was. Could they have made the scenes with Jack and Rose more boring??? And let's not even talk abt that fucking weirdo guy and his dumb Game of Life but Craigslist edition. I liked the first handful of episodes of this series so much, I love YinWar, but last episode and this one my enjoyment has taken such a nosedive it's unfathomable. And from the preview it seems next episode we yet again won't have Jack and Joke working together as a main plot, they're still doing their separate things and not communicating. Amazing. This series has gone from one of my most anticipated series to one I can barely prevent myself skipping huge chunks of.
Unpopular opinion I guess but I thought the first few episodes were far more compelling than what we have now. Now it's just basic BL tropes, miscommunication that could be solved if they just talked, and nothing is really progressing. I wish the whole series was about Q and Min in that slow burn kidnapper/kidnapped dynamic. Like I genuinely thought the whole stuff with Yada would last the entire series because she at first appeared like she could be a solid antagonist. So I'm actually pretty disappointed. It's kinda giving Never Let Me Go vibes in that sense. I bet the series formula will be Intense in the beginning, Filler (where we at now), Intense again.
I skipped around a bit this episode because MinQ are getting really annoying lmfao
I agree with y'all. This marriage plot is so contrived it stands out as an obvious filler subplot, which is pretty disappointing. Compare that to the first 5 episodes where everything felt fresh, reasonable, and mostly logical. We hit some good emotional beats this episode but the dumb marriage and Rose stuff overshadows it. And listen, I'm not against Rose as a character nor do I hate her, I thought it was interesting that monolog of Jack about poor and rich people's dreams. She's an interesting character to show that side to financial societal divides. But like... yknow, make them besties or something instead of prospective partners, though we all know ain't no way they end up together.
This is one of those (many) cases where I wish they'd just shorten the series as a whole to remove this subplot.
im still on ep2 but why tf is jack that mad at joker. like did i miss something in ep1? bcz sure joker made a…
Omg no fr! I agree so much! The boss guy would've taken in Jack in in any scenario where he couldn't pay off the debt, so Joker didn't magically create that situation—it was gonna happen even if Joker hadn't given him false hope. There's no causality.
Third Act Break Up, yay, my least favorite trope. But at least it's gonna last all but one episode if the preview is anything to go by lol
IF YOU LIKE/DON'T MIND a cheesy plot that jumps from plot point to plot point and a lot of BL tropes we've seen before, then I think this series is fine. It's super light, no real angst or stakes despite what the story tries to make you believe, etc. It's a BL Lite and pretty much GMMTV standard stuff. I like OhmLeng together, I think they're both good actors compared to so many others, and Leng can hold his own. It's clear Ohm has more experience but the difference doesn't bother me. And that's all I have to say lmao
Is Jack having fun with Rose? Not really. But we also haven't seen a lot of him having fun with Joke, either. He hated him up until recently. He's only just opened up to Joke, and the past two episodes they've barely been on screen together.
Also, the entire string of scenes with that weirdo from the Four Horsemen and his dumb game was USELESS. Utterly, completely, irredeemably useless. We gained nothing from that. Rose not marrying that guy aren't stakes we were ever invested in or cared about.
Not to mention Jack could've said one sentence to Joke that he's working for Rose to deceive her on the boss' orders like he literally did in one of the last scenes of this episode and the whole miscommunication and them drifting apart wouldn't have happened.
About attraction; I mean, you clearly disagree, but I do not see it. That's not me lying lmfao it's just an opinion. I can see the attraction from Joke, but not from Jack. Of course Jack cares about Joke, I don't think that defines any attraction. Telling him the truth also doesn't, that's just Jack finally getting his head out of his ass. The cuddling scene was the first thing I'd deem romantic, but we're literally in EP 8.
And I'm sorry, but you cannot be seriously saying this story has a realistic concept hahah. That's a joke, right? It has some points to make about classism and societal divides, but?
Miscommunication isn't realistic, not like how this BL and so many BL employ the trope. If one normal conversation could resolve the misunderstanding, then it's NOT REALISTIC. There was nothing preventing Jack, as example, from telling Joke what was up with him and Rose, but he just... didn't. He could miraculously talk about it in the hospital with his grandma, so, why not like, last episode? It's just contrivance after contrivance.
If you want actually realistic BL, watch The Eighth Sense. Or the currently airing Love in the Big City. Or the movie His. Or Life; Love on the Line. etc. I could go on. Jack and Joker ain't that.
We're down 8 episodes out of 12, and we still don't have any real romantic scenes and concrete feelings. From this point onward, the more screentime Jack and Joke spent apart is time lost for them to learn about one another and grow closer. I get why they won't work together for plot reasons, but the pacing of the series sucks ass. We've already seen a heist performed by Joke and side characters earlier in the story. We're just gonna get the same plot point in a different coat of paint fed to us next episode.
Side note, I know most people really hate Save and Hope, but I like them a lot and I'd argue they're the only real morally grey characters in the series, but I digress. That's somewhat subjective.
Jack was boring from the start but I assumed that was part of his character arc, but then it turned out he's not actually ruthless and is still nice and wishy-washy about everything.
It's not even a proper slow burn romance in my opinion because though we can assume Joke is probably in love with Jack (why tho lmfao), Jack only gives him the time of day when Joke is A. on his side, and B. not a thief, whereas Joke has been trying so hard to understand every choice Jack makes. The slow burn energy isn't matched.
I liked the first handful of episodes of this series so much, I love YinWar, but last episode and this one my enjoyment has taken such a nosedive it's unfathomable.
And from the preview it seems next episode we yet again won't have Jack and Joke working together as a main plot, they're still doing their separate things and not communicating.
Amazing.
This series has gone from one of my most anticipated series to one I can barely prevent myself skipping huge chunks of.
I wish the whole series was about Q and Min in that slow burn kidnapper/kidnapped dynamic.
Like I genuinely thought the whole stuff with Yada would last the entire series because she at first appeared like she could be a solid antagonist. So I'm actually pretty disappointed.
It's kinda giving Never Let Me Go vibes in that sense. I bet the series formula will be Intense in the beginning, Filler (where we at now), Intense again.
I skipped around a bit this episode because MinQ are getting really annoying lmfao
It's all I want and I'm tired of pretending it's not been on my mind ever since they confirmed they're dating
We hit some good emotional beats this episode but the dumb marriage and Rose stuff overshadows it. And listen, I'm not against Rose as a character nor do I hate her, I thought it was interesting that monolog of Jack about poor and rich people's dreams. She's an interesting character to show that side to financial societal divides.
But like... yknow, make them besties or something instead of prospective partners, though we all know ain't no way they end up together.
This is one of those (many) cases where I wish they'd just shorten the series as a whole to remove this subplot.
I was like. Girl be ffr you have a whole ass son. Who you hate, but that's a you problem.
IF YOU LIKE/DON'T MIND a cheesy plot that jumps from plot point to plot point and a lot of BL tropes we've seen before, then I think this series is fine. It's super light, no real angst or stakes despite what the story tries to make you believe, etc. It's a BL Lite and pretty much GMMTV standard stuff.
I like OhmLeng together, I think they're both good actors compared to so many others, and Leng can hold his own. It's clear Ohm has more experience but the difference doesn't bother me.
And that's all I have to say lmao