Kate

Hot Sauce

Pretty sure there is also a trainee called Hyun Bin 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Top 1 is different Han Bin, Sung Han Bin, I'm talking about PARK Han Bin 😆

That's the thing, we can feel bad for Kamden about the unfortunate circumstances that caused him a lot of frustration without putting a blame on other trainees. Honestly speaking, even if everyone did their best to make sure everything is translated well, it would still be painfully frustrating, because this translating to each other thing takes precious time they need to practice. So things other teams would finish in an hour, would take them two just because the communication is not as easy.

briczennie on yt pointed out some editing details about the whole Kamden and Krystian situation (including the crying scene that turns out to be a mix of two completely different moments in the interview). So if anyone is interested:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNG5Qu8qDT8
starts at: 8:03

now that the fancams of all performances dropped (which, too many I cannot watch them all lol). I have to say Park Han Bin is painfully underrated. He has some of the most stable vocals while dancing. Not a note off pitch. Not to mention solid dancing, great stage presence. Like, even when it's not his part he is giving 100%.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe9LDBhfmUU
the performance as a group was pain (oof some high notes 🤣), but my dude Park Han Bin did amazing. Show some love maybe pretty please? 🥲

I was not rooting for FL either hahaha Literally the only character I cared for was the dad, because he was the only one with half a brain 😅

Serial killer killing for no other reason than "I can" could work if they presented him in more narcissistic way, but they did not. It's fine to not give a serial killer a proper reason, BUT you need to give the reason on why he is killing when there is not really anything pushing him or motivating him to kill. Give the reason for the lack of reason I guess 😅

I agree with all your points, tho it never tried to present itself as a "psychological thriller" - it's neither in the genre nor the tags, so I would not put it against it for not delivering what psychological thriller should. Since it's simply not one.

I understood both brother and grandma. This was her son after all, not easy to give up on your child. Bro wanted to just get out of the shitty situation and move on (getting emotionally detached is a common thing in abusive houses). Dude was doing his best to study etc. probably with the hope of ditching it all in the future.

But Yeo Reum... in the context of her situation, her motivations, her relationship with Bom - there was no reason for her to be on grandma's side and not Bom's. that part of writing just annoyed the fuck out of me it was so illogical.

No. This is a separate series, based on the first novel of the trilogy.
Most likely there will be 2 more seasons.

The situation in the hospital was the exact moment I started to hate FL 🤣 I could understand literally everyone being on the grandma side, ignoring how traumatic it was for Bom, but when Yeo Reum screamed at Bom for being disrespectful to her grandma, coz the girl was emotional and unstable AFTER BEING STABBED BY HER FATHER and everyone not giving a fuck about her mental state and trying to emotionally blackmail her into lying to defend him... I lost it 🙃 Especially since she herself refused to help her brother with the money for the family and kept preaching how she is only going to think about her own well-being 😆

Yeah I am 100% fine with bad characters staying bad. I hate lazy character development tho - like character is a dick one episode, and out of a blue helpful the next with no real reason. Also asshole characters who the writer tries to present as not so much of an assholes 😅

I don't know... I feel like they did not know how realistic they wanted to make it, so we have some scenes that are hard to watch and really realistic, but then some dumb and exaggerated that I cannot take them seriously. The contrast just bothered me. That said, I feel like the fans ruined the show too much for me as I was watching 🤣 for a slice of life show the fandom was hella toxic.

Glad you enjoyed it, sad I cannot say the same for my experience with this show 😅

My biggest issue was how unlikable majority of the characters were. For a drama with little to no real plot (which i am 100% fine with and enjoyed many similar shows), I need to like and connect to the character to appreciate whatever is shown on screen 😅

I mean, Krystian is also not a leader material. But neither is Kamden. Him becoming a leader was a bit of a joke, and him saying he can do well as a leader was even a bigger joke.

I'd be pissed if Kamden was excluded when someone else was the leader, because then it's that leader's job to include everyone and control the members. I would be even more on the fence if Kamden became the leader out of pressure and was not sure if he can manage the position, But he literally said he knows he can do well 🤡

He was in Youth With You 3. I mean, I am going to trust what I saw of him in that show (it's freaking 22 episodes ALL over 3 hours long + side shows) because it makes no sense he was able to hide how much of a "dick" he is during whole that time, but here first opportunity he has, he acts like an asshole no care for his image given? When Jeon Somi came out with how her beef with one of the contestants was all fake and she screamed at no one, and it was all fabricated, who the fuck would trust mnet?

I'm telling you, they cannot edit out Krystian anymore since now we have team battles and they have to show all teams practice, he was relatively popular with ZERO screen time so they are trying to ruin his image so he will drop in ranking. Mnet wants to have 2 token foreign members in the team to show how "open and progressive" they are, but keep the majority of the group Korean to show how superior Korean trainees are ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

It's literally leader's job to control the members, which he failed with Krystian. And it's not hard to control Krystian, but Kamden did not even try. Not to mention no one forced the role of being leader on him. He himself said he knows he will do well as a leader, but then he failed as one. Being a leader means knowing how to deal with issues.

i have no idea how i wrote so much without spoilers, it's a miracle. But writing this review was pain in the ass, exactly for that reason - not wanting to include spoilers 🤣

To be fair to other trainees, when they saw Krystian be more dominant and make the choices and control the situation, and how Kamden did not try to stop him, of course they will go after the one that leads, not just the one who had the "leader" position assigned to them. (Not saying Krystian would be a good leader, he does not fit for the position either lol)

It's like Kill This Love team - Hwan Hee was "the leader", but Geon Wook was leading.

I have some thoughts on Krystian and Kamden's situation.

1. Whoever says there is a limit to evil editing - no there is not 🤣 Editing can frame anything in any way the editor wants. The "well, he had to say it for them to edit it in the first place" - sure. He might have also said it in a completely different context and then mnet put it in as if he was always cutting Kamden when he spoke. There was only one full shot scene showing it happen, and that is the only one I truly believe happened exactly as it was shown ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ So that's about the editing part - we have no idea what really happened, and I have ZERO trust in mnet showing the real incident.

2. Kamden should not be the leader, because he is not fit for the role. Leader's job is literally controling the members and making sure everything goes smoothly. But he did not try to control Krystian at all. Even if I assume Krystian was a massive dick, a mean asshole, it's still Kamden's job to deal with him for the sake of the team. And it is possible. I watched YWY3 good 3 times, with good leadership, Krystian is a harmless child. The first time Krystian started talking in Chinese, he should have stopped him and tell him to use English. Better yet, Krystian obviously wants to be in the spotlight - make use of that. Ask him to help with the communication between him and the Chinese members. Krystian is like the naughty kid in the classroom. You give him a "role" as the teacher's helper to make him feel important and busy, so they cannot cause any issues.

3. Conspiracy theory time coz it's always fun - Mnet intentionally wanted to make Krystian the villain, because he was never "their pick to debut", but he was popular even with ZERO screentime. I mean, dude was ranking 22 when all the episodes ever showed of him was seconds of his reactions to other performances. It was easy to edit him out in the first episodes, because they never show all performances during the first ranking. But now, with team battles, whenever they like it or not, they would have to show some of him. They don't want people to like him and vote for him, so they only option was to make him look like a dick.

4. This whole issue and how other teams picked their leader just shows how clueless these kids are 🤣 There was literally only one team that discussed who should be the leader is a way that made sense - Hot Sauce. Two people volunteer and then they talked about why they qualified for the role - being member of a student council (which means knowing how to deal with people, plan and deal with potential issues and conflicts) and being the leader/leading the team they came here for the audition (which basically means they already have experience in being the leader).

The layers of the plotting were amazing ans that's probably the only good editing and directing moment of this whole show. How they first showed the process of choosing, only then revealed how it was all Geon Wook's idea. Then picking Hwan Hee as the leader and slowly showcasing how, nah the true leader is Geon Wook hahaha

Hui for some strange reason is not confident in his voice. He thinks all he has are his extremely high notes, but it's not true. He actually has a really unique voice and he also can add this rock spin to it. He does not need to belt these high even for a female key notes, he is good enough without them.